Have a 2016 Sonata with a 2.4l engine. I use full synthetic oil and usually go about 3500 miles between oil changes. I did a hard brake on the highway and the oil pressure light came on then immediately went away. I checked the oil level and didn't even read low. I was about 2000-2300 miles from my last oil change and took 2 quarts to get it to a proper level, seems very excessive. I don't notice any leaks/smoke, PCV valve still rattles and seems in good condition, not sure if that much oil consumption is acceptable and what other causes it could be, thanks.
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Au contraire mon ami...
My suggestions are bang on, since there is little hope of an engine replacement.
Use oil for older cars and thicken it up. Try to decabonize the rings and such.
What positive suggestions can you make?
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Nice article. I agree i can understand burning oil on a worn engine with 300.000 Km's but when it starts consuming that amount when there fairly still new its a problem that just gets worse over time from what i have seen on here with hyundai's." ...and the Fact that nearly all manufactures are using Low tension Piston rings that can bind up easyier just adds to the frustration i recommended on here a while back using a product mixed in the oil before changing it called BG EPR it actually
helped one of are members oil consumption considerably. im not saying this will cure hyundais defective engine problem. it wont, but if the Piston rings are not expanding looselly to make a tight seal against the cylinders that can also contribute to oil consumption i would use a can of BG EPR its a Professional grade product Piston ring cleaner/engine you add a can in just
before changing your oil then rev engine lightly at 1200rpm's for 15 minutes product works with heat if your wondering why so long. then drain and fill your engine i used this product before topped it off with there moa oil conditioner to neutralize any residual left behind in the engine also you will notice your oil stayes cleaner longer afterword.
I very recently heard that someone who has a 2019 Sonata with only 55,000 miles on it experienced engine failure. The warranty claim on the engine was denied because this was a drivers education car. I don't know if there is more to this story or not, and I saw this on the Scotty Kilmer channel on YouTube.
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If you are finding discussions where large oil consumers are getting new engine blocks, then you need to find a way to contact those owners and get their personal information, dealership file numbers........etc.....etc. Heck, you may even need to get one of their lawyers.
We are not here to supply that information. You need to begin your search by having private conversations with those forum members. The best way to begin is by becoming a member at all of the Kia and Hyundai forums that contain Kia and Hyundai models that bear the exact same engine as yours.
In order to get a better understanding of my engines, I joined every board that shows access information for our 2.0 MPI and 2.4 GDI engines. I am a member at around 10 different forums now. Not all are registered as kia-forums or Hyundai-forums. There are others to find also. Just ask Google Search to help you.
Not hard to believe, do you have a link to the video?
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i had some stuck rings i tried that epr a few months ago and have noticed less oil consumption it did work all you guys with oil burners give it a go.
So they can deny you if you are using the car for commercial/business purposes?
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Glad too see it helped it out how much oil did does it use now.??i had some stuck rings i tried that epr a few months ago and have noticed less oil consumption it did work all you guys with oil burners give it a go.
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BG is the real deal, i wont recommend something with out aproval from Professional technitions that use it & works pretty darn well. Prime example right here watch how it helped and breathed a little more life back into this vehicle a litle longer stuff is amazing.!. mecanicQ in my area has recently moved in around the block from me and all there products services performed are using the BG chemistry i like that.
I wonder if an old fashioned compression check would reveal anything wrong with the rings and valve guides. If a problem shows up, it would be objective evidence to beat the dealership with.
Also, any indication of oil in the coolant? This would show evidence of a head gasket failure.
I would also stand behind the car and have a friend cold start the car. The catalytic converter will eat up a lot of blue smoke, but if the rings/valve guides/head gasket are particularly bad you'll see some blue smoke smoke after half a minute.
Good luck.
Also, any indication of oil in the coolant? This would show evidence of a head gasket failure.
I would also stand behind the car and have a friend cold start the car. The catalytic converter will eat up a lot of blue smoke, but if the rings/valve guides/head gasket are particularly bad you'll see some blue smoke smoke after half a minute.
Good luck.
Just read the post and no there hasn't been anything from Kia in writing, other than denying coverage for excessive oil consumption based on owners experiences Over on the Kia site, there have been 3 so far that have been denied in the last couple of weeks.
One, they supposedly took an oil sample and told the owner that worn rings were the cause of the oil consumption and based on that investigation, the engine wouldn't be replaced and that if the engine does seize in the future, it wouldn't be covered as the rings would be the cause.
Two others using oil in the qt p/ 300-400 mile range were denied as that excessive oil consumption was not part of the "settlement". What a company, crappy engines and give some double talk to the gullible owners and send them on their way. Not knocking the owners, but the scum-balls at stealership/Kia give lip service and the owners don't know how to reply.
I know the 4 dealerships I've dealt with were far from reputable as they think everyone that comes into for service are idiots. When I had the engine replaced, 172,000 miles '11 2.0T for oil consumption (engine operated perfectly), had a few problems and the misfit writers at the stealership ended up with their tail between their legs. With 25 dealerships in the family, I called the daughter and it was corrected quickly.
My advice was not to change the oil, but get an oil sample from the current oil in the vehicle, then go to the dealership. At least this way one would know what metallic substance, if any, would be in the oil. I know it would be a little messy taking the sample, but one could remove the drain plug and install back in quickly, or clean the filter perfectly, loosen and catch the oil, but either way can't have any contamination.in the sample.
This is only three that posted on the Forum so would assume there's more, so best advice is to have the engine seize.
Compression and leakdown test doesn't beat the dealer or HQ, my dealer did it and HQ denied even though tests showed that I need a new engine. Only after it seized was it covered.
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i was going through over a bottle before, after flushing it with that BG epr i filed it with pennz plat 5w30 and toped it off with that Moa checking dipstick every 2K's wich wow ! to my surprise was still at full mark on dipstick when it hit 5K i added half liter of oil had i not used the flush i would be adding over a bottle by now. the stuff works great!!
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That's impressive...! You definatley had cocked/stuck Piston oil control rings. BG products work amazing especially there Dynamic engine cleaner & Rinse shown here for engines that have sludge caused from neglected oil changes.
I'm on the Kia forums regularly, and I don't recall seeing any reliable reports matching what you posted above. However, maybe I just missed them, or perhaps you are on some Kia site that I'm not familiar with, so can you please post links to this information that you mentioned. Again, I'm not necessarily doubting what you wrote, however it would represent a major change from what Kia has been doing up to now, so I would like to be able to read the information from the source(s) before passing it along to anyone else.
No offense intended, but what does one believe, made up stories?
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Discussion Starter • #1 • 8 d ago
Hi. My 2014 Optima Ex is burning a quart of oil every 300-400 miles. 138,000 on vehicle.. I called the KIA customer care number to request a case number so I can start an oil consumption test. I got a case number but the rep said there is not a recall for oil consumption on these vehicles so since I am out of warranty she was not sure what could be done but to get the diagnosis first and we can go from there... I was under the impression that if the oil consumption was more than a quart every 1000 miles regardless of mileage than Kia would and has replaced the engine. Anybody have advice on what i should do?
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Called Kia twice and got a claim number but they are saying their engineers have determined oil consumption has nothing to do with the bearing recall!!! Righhhht....i have seen some get their engines replaced for high oil consumption. This is obviously a precursor to the bearing giving out. Have oil consumption test scheduled for this week at dealer. Should i keep appt.? Or are they going to "FIND" a different reason like rings for the oil burn and deny me a new engine when it finally does kick the bucket? Confused. Need advice.. Thanks.
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My car burns 1-2 quarts of oil a month. I first noticed in September and finally got the car in to get it checked. The dealership says the piston rings are worn and it does not fall under the recall so I have to live with the vehicle in this condition. I am not happy about this because it only has 115,000 miles. I called KIA consumer affairs and they said sorry they cannot help me. Is there any other recourse I can take beside spending the money to get it fixed?
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if your piston rings are stuck like mine were use a engine flush like BG epr then fill with oil & top off using BG moa it worked for me.
Unfortunately there are lots of made up stories plastered all over the internet, which is why I always want to find confirmation of anything that contradicts a 'fact' which has been previously well established by multiple reports (such as Kia engines being replaced if oil consumption is worse than 1 quart per 1K miles). Certainly nothing personally directed at you, just something I always do.
So thanks for taking the time to post the links to the original threads (which appear to be very legit), and I now have the answer I had been looking for. I hadn't been aware of this previously because I don't participate in that particular Optima forum, and have not seen a similar account posted on the other Kia forums (yet). But I will now certainly be on the watch for more reports of this same thing, and will be saving your links to forward them along to others if the need arises.
Time will tell if Kia (and one would assume Hyundai as well) has made an all-in commitment to this new policy of not replacing oil consuming engines. If the automakers do head down that road, then we will need to recommend never going for an oil consumption test, and allowing the automakers to document some bogus recall bail out strategy like bad rings. And if they do start trying that dealer dance crap, I suspect they'll find themselves headed back into court once again (and they won't need a GPS because they definitely know the way to court).
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