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Overheating but no heat

5.3K views 14 replies 5 participants last post by  Dog Patch Steve  
#1 ·
2010 Santa Fe 3.5L Limited AWD. Short drive the other day and noticed some steam from under the hood and no heat in the vehicle. Popped the hood and bubbling in the overflow tank. Fan was running. Definitely higher on the gauge than normal but shut it off before the gauge got too high. Thermostat or water pump? Obviously the thermostat is cheaper and easier to replace, but could that really be all it is?
 
#4 ·
Pressure test for leak after cool down. Water pump is rare for 3.5, look to see if green stuff at chain cover / water pump face. Thermostat, rare, unless cooling system totally neglected.

Low coolant likely cause of overheat, and then to find out where coolant going. After cool down and safe to open system, note coolant level, if way low, fill with water, then have assistant start engine, did it volcano out with engine start, or stay reasonable level.

Had a few V6 that have pulled head bolt threads from block, and cause cooling concerns, they ended up with new shortblock.
 
#5 ·
Pressure test for leak after cool down. Water pump is rare for 3.5, look to see if green stuff at chain cover / water pump face. Thermostat, rare, unless cooling system totally neglected.

Low coolant likely cause of overheat, and then to find out where coolant going. After cool down and safe to open system, note coolant level, if way low, fill with water, then have assistant start engine, did it volcano out with engine start, or stay reasonable level.

Had a few V6 that have pulled head bolt threads from block, and cause cooling concerns, they ended up with new shortblock.
well there is a leak. Radiator took 2 quarts of water to fill. Ran OK after filling and heated up without overheating and interior heat worked. I see some water at the interface between the black housing that the thermostat and hoses go into and I guess the block. I can't quite tell if that housing attaches to the side of the engine? Is there a gasket there that could be leaking? I'll see if I can post a pic
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#7 ·
found something else on here about a coolant crossover housing? I'm thinking this is the likely culprit.

 
#9 ·
Not sure how well the pics show it but the leak is in the coolant crossover housing or whatever its called. It's a plastic housing that has a bunch of hoses going into it and encases the thermostat as well. The portion that connects to the block has channels for an oring and the plastic has deteriorated and broken loose so that the oring grooves are no longer contiguous.
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#12 · (Edited)
Michael:
Congrats on finding the issue. I see that your coolant looks like it's a color other than green. I realize that color does not matter as long as it meets spec, but our '11 3.5L came with green, so that is what went back in when it was drain/refilled.

On a side note, I was dismayed to learn that the local Hyundai dealer does not use Hyundai brand stuff if they can help it during servicing. I know that mixing incompatible types of coolant can lead to long term damage and headaches.

Please keep us posted on how things progress since the repair. I'm glad that Dog Patch Steve says that the 3.5L water pump is not a common repair, because it does not look to be repair access friendly at all.

Don
 
#15 ·
They have to use OE for warranty repairs, or Hyundai will figure it out they selling more stuff than what they order. We was keeping OE, and using lime green on cheap from O'Reilley, Shell, NAPA for a number of yrs, then Mgr decided we only sell OE, as it keeps stock coming in and going out, make more on OE then part store, and warranty requires OE stuff, or they deny / debit claim
 
#14 ·
Oh my:
The manual calls for new coolant at the 5 year OR 60k mile mark. I had the dealer do it at the 5 year mark, then I did the 2nd one at 10 years. Still looks green.

If what was in yours was green to start with. it was terribly overdue.

Don