QUOTE (RacerX @ Jul 28 2011, 10:32 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=482679

Checking to see how many people have had this problem?
Problem: "check active air flap system" coming on the center screen where you usually have the Eco score.

"Hybrid Sonata has underbody fairing full and active air flap system in the nose of many cars that block the radiator at high speeds to improve performance car drag."

Is your car overheating? Does the indicator tell you if it's stuck open or closed? Can you get the car to dealer to check if it's a real problem or a sensor failure? You could always have it towed, I suppose.

 

QUOTE (Tyrod @ Jul 29 2011, 06:33 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=482763

"Hybrid Sonata has underbody fairing full and active air flap system in the nose of many cars that block the radiator at high speeds to improve performance car drag."

Is your car overheating? Does the indicator tell you if it's stuck open or closed? Can you get the car to dealer to check if it's a real problem or a sensor failure? You could always have it towed, I suppose.

Yes I am getting it checked. No overheating right now. The warning does not tell you if it's stuck open or closed. I hope it's something simple. I was just wondering if I was the only one in the "world" with this issue. I searched the web and forums for someone else with the issue...but no luck.

 

QUOTE (Tyrod @ Jul 29 2011, 06:33 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=482763
Yes I am getting it checked. No overheating right now. The warning does not tell you if it's stuck open or closed. I hope it's something simple. I was just wondering if I was the only one in the "world" with this issue. I searched the web and forums for someone else with the issue...but no luck.

I have also gotten this message. Will check with my dealer when I am back home.

 

My salesman told me they had one hybrid with a malfunctioning spoiler which they fixed.
The CEL problem remains; the new batch of NVLDs combined with the software upgrades have not solved all issues at this time.
We are getting into two months since the new valves and software have been available.

 

QUOTE (Dr. Awkward @ Jul 29 2011, 01:03 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=482929

My salesman told me they had one hybrid with a malfunctioning spoiler which they fixed.
The CEL problem remains; the new batch of NVLDs combined with the software upgrades have not solved all issues at this time.
We are getting into two months since the new valves and software have been available.

Is the spoiler you are talking about in front of the radiator?
Looks like more people are having the "CEL" problem without the "check active air flap system" problem. Are you still using your air conditioner with both the above problems?
Trying to keep a lid on this frustration.

 

QUOTE (RacerX @ Jul 30 2011, 01:47 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=483267

Is the spoiler you are talking about in front of the radiator?
Looks like more people are having the "CEL" problem without the "check active air flap system" problem. Are you still using your air conditioner with both the above problems?
Trying to keep a lid on this frustration.

Yes.
My car has not indicated any problem with the spoiler. AC is OK; we always use the econ mode.
The salesman said he thought the one they fixed had a vapor lock in a line which wouldn't move the spoiler.
This seems totally unrelated to the CEL issues.

My experience with the CEL started in late May with a new NVLD and software upgrade on June 16th.
My MPG was never affected. The car will drive fine with the light on.
Just clicked over 5,000 miles, 2,300 since first oil and filter (synthetic blend).
I got the mpg to read 50.5 on a 70 mile drive coming off the Blue Ridge Parkway. Current mpg is 37.9
A full battery charge takes just a few twisty turny switchbacks on an 8% down hill.

 

I have customer car sitting here as I type and phone to ear waitng in tech assist to answer phone.

GDS will not commiunicate to AAF module, there is program in the upgrade screen, but it comes up "communication error" also.. nice of them to have modules that wont COMM...

Fella answered, searching files...

 

This should take care of problem..

Hook up GDS

Fault code scan the entire vehicle.. Pay particular attention to the Air Flap module... does it have a COMM failure, or did it find "no error code"

If it has a COMM fail, disconnect the battery in the trunk, remove the negative cable, and touch it to the positive clamp for approx 1 minute.

Install negative cable, and see if GDS will communicate with air flap module. If yes,, proceed to the ECU UPGRADE screen

Do the upgrade for the air flap module if it will read and carry on. When progam completes, bail out and clear all codes again, as programing makes for a couple CAN line codes, best to just do fault code search again, the clear all..

When done, put car in ready mode, turn on A/C, exit vehicle, and look under the bumper and see if the blinds is open.

Dont know if this is the ultimate remedy, but at least the flap worked when I was done withthis chassis



EDIT --> I had GDS screen shots to post for viewing pleasure, but this forum wont post pics from uploader ....

 

Well,,, after "winging" the repair this morning, my advisor comes out and says Hyundai called, and they just release TSB about the issue at 1530hr CST.. he gave me the TSB so I could flag my time for the program..

I will need to read the papers tonight, and see if it is the same repairs steps I made to get the module to take the upgrade..

Stay tuned....

 

QUOTE (sbr711 @ Aug 1 2011, 05:11 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=484269

Well,,, after "winging" the repair this morning, my advisor comes out and says Hyundai called, and they just release TSB about the issue at 1530hr CST.. he gave me the TSB so I could flag my time for the program..

I will need to read the papers tonight, and see if it is the same repairs steps I made to get the module to take the upgrade..

Stay tuned....

I think the campaign code is "TG2" for the YF ECU update for the active air flaps #11-01-025 start date 08/01/2011. So I am crossing my fingers and hope that it works.
Still want to know how many others are having this problem. So far looks like only 2 or 3 others.
Hope this is the only problem I have. Although I did get the CEL for the time that it's been 90 F or above outside. Today it's cooler in the 80 F and the light is now off. I did not do anything different. Oh well. Will see what happens.

 

QUOTE (sbr711 @ Aug 1 2011, 05:11 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=484269

I think the campaign code is "TG2" for the YF ECU update for the active air flaps #11-01-025 start date 08/01/2011. So I am crossing my fingers and hope that it works.
Still want to know how many others are having this problem. So far looks like only 2 or 3 others.
Hope this is the only problem I have. Although I did get the CEL for the time that it's been 90 F or above outside. Today it's cooler in the 80 F and the light is now off. I did not do anything different. Oh well. Will see what happens.

After my third trip to the dealer, to fix my MIL/CEL problem, I was told that I needed to have my Air flap system and a valve replaced. Since that time my MIL/CEL came on for a fourth time. Tomorrow (9/13/11), I'll have the airflap and a valve replaced. Each time I've had the MIL/CEL come on, I've never had any gas mileage issues. Hopefully the replacements will fix the MIL/CEL problem. Also I've been sending messages to HyundaiUSA to let them know of my CEL problem. They keep telling me, their in contact with my dealership and that I shouldn't worry about getting the problem solved. Time will tell. I'm going to continue to bug the **** out of them or get another hybrid.

 

We had another in this morning, and found the AAF module to not comunicate, so tech did the battery thing, module came online, programed, and flaps open with A/C at idle sitting still.

This car has other electric issues that assist wanted him to unplug the large orange cables at both ends and re-install.

 

We had another in this morning, and found the AAF module to not comunicate, so tech did the battery thing, module came online, programed, and flaps open with A/C at idle sitting still.

This car has other electric issues that assist wanted him to unplug the large orange cables at both ends and re-install.

SBR711
Do you know what is:
Adjust terminals for better pin drag on service disconnect?
Is that electrical,air flap,motor,battery issue?

 

So far so good. Looks like everything is working well since the ECU for air flaps yesterday. I will keep an eye on how the hybrid feels under my normal driving conditions. Look at the mpg both in car computer calculations and the old fashion calculations. Looks like gas is on the rise again!
From what I can tell less than 10 cars mentioned on this forum with the check active air flap system problem.

 

I had the AAF issue a number of years ago, not to mention Hyundai had to replace the high voltage battery and voltage regulator with only 24k miles on it. Now I have A/C issues with only 55k miles. Not real happy with this car.

 

QUOTE (RacerX @ Aug 4 2011, 09:05 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=485607

So far so good. Looks like everything is working well since the ECU for air flaps yesterday. I will keep an eye on how the hybrid feels under my normal driving conditions. Look at the mpg both in car computer calculations and the old fashion calculations. Looks like gas is on the rise again!
From what I can tell less than 10 cars mentioned on this forum with the check active air flap system problem.

I took my Sonata Hybrid (base), in today for my third CEL problem. They told me that were going to replace the active air flap system. Even though I haven't had that problem yet. they think that could be the reason the CEL keeps coming on.

 

OOOOps, wrecked car... here is the AAF assembly, they is open currently..

 

When I had my problem I looked through the grill and they where closed. I was told that should be open when stopped and at low speed. My car did not overheat. The dealer did repair and all is ok now. Nice to see whole picture of the AAF assembly.

sbr711 Do you know what is
"Adjust terminals for better pin drag on service disconnect" ?

 

are the air flaps suppose to close ALL THE WAY? i have a sonata here that it opens but when you go to actuate it close it barely closes,


i know this is a old topic sorry for bumping dont want to make a new thread

 

I have the same problem for 1 month now. I'm getting better gas mileage when check Active Air Flap System and check ENG on. I took my car to the dealer too many time, I just gave up with this car. I'll just town it there when it dead. NYC dealer suck!!! never will buy a Hyundai what a BIG F---k up I did buying this car... HONDA next time I miss my HONDA

 

Is this covered under Warranty?

I Have a 2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid. I bought a month ago and it has mileage of 16,000 only. Yesterday I felt a weird vibration when I started the car and it went away within a minute. I thought it was just because the engine was cold. But this morning I noticed same vibration and a brief warning message pop on on the screen "Check Active air flap system. Later on when the car was warm and I drove to walmart. It didn't show up when I started the engine on my way back. I read other people having same problem but their engine light came up too. which is not the case with me.
My vehicle is still under warranty. Is this issue covered under warranty?
if not How much I should expect to pay for this maintenance bill?

Thanks,

 

Is it Covered under warranty?

I Have a 2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid. I bought a month ago and it has mileage of 16,000 only. Yesterday I felt a weird vibration when I started the car and it went away within a minute. I thought it was just because the engine was cold. But this morning I noticed same vibration and a brief warning message pop on on the screen "Check Active air flap system. Later on when the car was warm and I drove to walmart. It didn't show up when I started the engine on my way back. I read other people having same problem but their engine light came up too. which is not the case with me.
My vehicle is still under warranty. Is this issue covered under warranty?
if not How much I should expect to pay for this maintenance bill?

Thanks,

 

5yr/60,000 from date of first use.. send me VIN

 

Thx, it is 18000 miles and 5 years will be completing in Aug 2016. Let me rephrase my question, Does Hyundai Warranty covers this maintenance job?

Thanks,

 

First run Hybrid had handfull of flap assembly that failed.. we replaced them as they fail when customer show up.. there is a Flap update to the flap module..

I wouldnt doubt that flap took dump,, likely have to order, it not a hot ticket everyday sale item.. while there, ask them to verify flap module up to date, and that Version 2 been installed to Hybrid system.. big multi module update package, then re-calibrate 2 item as called out in directions (TSB)

It not a maintain job.. you have warning light, part likely fail, warranty take care of that

 

What was the outcome? I have a 2013 Sonata Hybrid and the Check Active Air Flap System message just came on today.

 

I have a 2011 Sonata Hybrid. Two months ago I go the check active air flop system. I sent $ to get it fixed. Are there other owners with this problem?

 

Mileage ?? If you paid for it, you likely out of warranty

 

Earlier last month my 2011 Hybrid suffered the same failure. For a couple of months I had been receiving an intermittent CEL, which would last a couple of days and then disappear. The dealership could not find any stored codes, so could not do anything. This was before my 60,0000 miles was up, and before my 5y of ownership. Eventually, a couple of hundred miles after my 60,000m was up, the CEL returned, so I went directly to the dealership (on a Saturday afternoon), left the engine running, and asked the Service Manager to verify my problem. They were too busy then to check codes, so returned Monday and was given a loaner. Diagnosis was air flap failure, but because I had repeatedly had CEL before my warranty expired, they replaced under Warranty. At the same time, I had an issue with a squeal that was associated with the engine running, not in EV mode. Again reported before, not diagnosed, but confirmed by Service Manager at the same time as CEL. Main belt tensioner pulley was diagnosed and replaced under Warranty, just paying for cost of new belt. Had loaner for two days while problems fixed.
So, if air flap problem is diagnosed before 5y/60,000m warranty expires, it will be fixed under warranty, but normally not otherwise. The bill was $1000 plus for the warranty claim.

 

Cool, what did they charge you for the belt if you don't mind posting?

 

$61.57 including taxes, at Rick Case, Weston Florida