Very interesting. Do you guys ship to Canada?

Also, is there any increase in power consumption by using one of your bulbs? It's a silly question I know, but I'm curious about power drain since we're often concerned with excess energy consumption in here.

 

QUOTE (Ian Robertson @ Aug 31 2011, 06:45 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=497780

Very interesting. Do you guys ship to Canada?

Also, is there any increase in power consumption by using one of your bulbs? It's a silly question I know, but I'm curious about power drain since we're often concerned with excess energy consumption in here.

Ian,

We ship to Canada via USPS at a flat rate of 34.99 for complete kits, and 24.99 for smaller packages. With regard to International packages, we do our best to limit the import duties and fees paid by the customer when filling out customs forms. Email or call us for more details on that one.

Power drain for an XenonSupply HID system is less than a halogen based system. Halogen bulbs use consistently about 4.6amps assuming a OEM 55Watt Halogen bulb. XenonSupply 35watt Digital AC ballasts consume ~3 amps or less. There is a start up inrush current of about 6.7amps to get the HIDs ignited, however, power consumption once the HID system is warmed up (about 15 seconds) consumption drops below that of halogen and is a more efficient system with less energy lost to heat.

Pretty much, Halogen or filament based bulbs use heat to create a byproduct which is light. HIDs use an arc over two electrodes that excites xenon gases and salts that glow brightly as a result. HID technology in general consumes less power, produces much less heat as a byproduct, and offers superior lighting output( 2-3 x over halogen) and performance.

Cheers,
-Phil @ XS

 

Phil,

Ok, you have me interested with the lower power consumption, especially now that winter is approaching and I'll be using the headlights more often. I've heard that HID bulb life is shorter than Halogen. If true and with replacement bulbs at $45 a piece (or $85 for premium) it could become a bit of a costly maintenance item. Do you have any data on HID bulb life vs halogen? Do rough roads or cold weather have any effect an HID bulb life?

Thanks, much appreciated!
Eric

 

QUOTE (eric1r @ Aug 31 2011, 10:04 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=497867

Phil,

Ok, you have me interested with the lower power consumption, especially now that winter is approaching and I'll be using the headlights more often. I've heard that HID bulb life is shorter than Halogen. If true and with replacement bulbs at $45 a piece (or $85 for premium) it could become a bit of a costly maintenance item. Do you have any data on HID bulb life vs halogen? Do rough roads or cold weather have any effect an HID bulb life?

Thanks, much appreciated!
Eric

Hi Eric,

Thank you for your inquiry. The rated bulb life of an HID bulb is well over 8000 hours whereas a halogen bulb is rated to last between 1500-3000 hours. So what you heard is, fortunately, untrue :thumbsup: . These facts are stated in our FAQ section on our website, but with these facts aside, our standard bulbs are covered under warranty for 3 years and our premium bulbs are covered under warranty for 5 years. I'm sure our fellow Hyundai forum customers can attest that if there are ever any problems, we are very quick to resolve your issues with a hassle-free warranty process. The HID system is indeed more efficient, which is why they burn cooler than your standard halogens. You would be able to feel this difference by touch of the headlamp with one on each side. The fact that they are more efficient, attests to the fact that they will last longer.

Regarding the operating temperatures, it is never a concern as HID systems are rated to operate in temperatures as low as -40 degrees Celsius (-40 degrees Fahrenheit). We have offices in Minnesota and Michigan (and customers across Canada), and they get pretty cold winters but we have never had issues with HID systems on our own vehicles or customers' in the northern regions.

Thanks!
Sean and XS Team

 

QUOTE (XenonSupply @ Aug 31 2011, 01:19 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=497878

Hi Eric,

Thank you for your inquiry. The rated bulb life of an HID bulb is well over 8000 hours whereas a halogen bulb is rated to last between 1500-3000 hours. So what you heard is, fortunately, untrue :thumbsup: . These facts are stated in our FAQ section on our website, but with these facts aside, our standard bulbs are covered under warranty for 3 years and our premium bulbs are covered under warranty for 5 years. I'm sure our fellow Hyundai forum customers can attest that if there are ever any problems, we are very quick to resolve your issues with a hassle-free warranty process. The HID system is indeed more efficient, which is why they burn cooler than your standard halogens. You would be able to feel this difference by touch of the headlamp with one on each side. The fact that they are more efficient, attests to the fact that they will last longer.

Regarding the operating temperatures, it is never a concern as HID systems are rated to operate in temperatures as low as -40 degrees Celsius (-40 degrees Fahrenheit). We have offices in Minnesota and Michigan (and customers across Canada), and they get pretty cold winters but we have never had issues with HID systems on our own vehicles or customers' in the northern regions.

Thanks!
Sean and XS Team

Hmmmmm..... That extra night vision would be nice/safer. That and they look super cool as well. I hate how that yellow halogen light looks right next to that brilliant white LED strip. I'm sure the ROI for fuel savings is quite a ways out there considering I normally drive with them off during the day anyway, but I can still use that as mental justification. Hmmmmm....

I think my credit card finger is starting to get itchy....

 

Sean/Phil,

One last question - the Hybrid 12V accessory battery is in the trunk as opposed to under the hood on the regular Sonata. Is the accessory relay wiring harness long enough to reach???

Thanks again,
Eric

 

QUOTE (eric1r @ Aug 31 2011, 10:53 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=497893

Hmmmmm..... That extra night vision would be nice/safer. That and they look super cool as well. I hate how that yellow halogen light looks right next to that brilliant white LED strip. I'm sure the ROI for fuel savings is quite a ways out there considering I normally drive with them off during the day anyway, but I can still use that as mental justification. Hmmmmm....

I think my credit card finger is starting to get itchy....

We know that feeling as we've seen it on our own customers' cars. Luckily for you, you have LED strips for your DRLs vs. the non-Hybrid owners who have a yellow high beam DRL h34r: so after your HID replacement, your headlights will look complete!

QUOTE (eric1r @ Aug 31 2011, 11:02 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=497895

Sean/Phil,

One last question - the Hybrid 12V accessory battery is in the trunk as opposed to under the hood on the regular Sonata. Is the accessory relay wiring harness long enough to reach???

Thanks again,
Eric

On vehicles with batteries in the trunk, there is always a positive accessory port in the engine bay. Typically, this accessory port is a stand-alone terminal post in the engine bay or a connection in the fuse box. But, no, the relay harness is not long enough to reach the trunk of your vehicle.

Please let us know if you have any trouble finding the accessory port in the front.

Thanks!
Sean and XS Team

 

This sounds like a seriously good idea - I might wait until my current bulbs need replacing but it sounds good. Really good.

 

Sweet. Wasn't looking forward to running that wire all the way back there. I'll find it and post a pic for everyone else on the forum.

FYI - the DRLs on the Hybrid are both the LEDs and a dim/resisted H11 low beam halogen as well. With your kit I assuming the DRL's will now be full power HID 100% of the time, correct? Any issues with wiring if I wanted to buy both kits to convert both high and low beams to HID?

 

Or better yet - lots of people here want the ability to turn off the halogen DRLs so that only the LEDs are lit during the day. If I were to wire a SPST switch in the line running from the factory headlight connector to the relay (see pic below) I could do just that, correct???

 

QUOTE (eric1r @ Aug 31 2011, 12:11 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=497921

Sweet. Wasn't looking forward to running that wire all the way back there. I'll find it and post a pic for everyone else on the forum.

FYI - the DRLs on the Hybrid are both the LEDs and a dim/resisted H11 low beam halogen as well. With your kit I assuming the DRL's will now be full power HID 100% of the time, correct? Any issues with wiring if I wanted to buy both kits to convert both high and low beams to HID?

Hi Eric,

I correct myself from earlier having assumed your DRLs were only the LED strip. Unless there was a modification to your vehicle, the dimmed DRL you're describing is actually your high beam. The low beam is behind the orb-like projector lens which you would be replacing with HIDs.

The solution you proposed would work if your DRL halogens were on the low beam, with the added thought that we would recommend putting the SPST before the capacitor. Since your DRL is on the high beam, we would not recommend the DRL bypass as you would have your high beams on during the daytime.

Thanks!
Sean and XS Team

 

Xenon Supply,
Is it absolutely necessary to have a relay harness? What would be the consequences (if any) of not doing it. Other markets (not the US) sell kits (namely philips) as Directly interchangeable with the existing halogen headlighting. Those kits are not sold with harnesses. The battery being in the truck causes issues with that setup. Do you know where that would be located in the Sonata Hybrid?

 

QUOTE (Jason_AZ @ Aug 31 2011, 02:32 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=497995

Xenon Supply,
Is it absolutely necessary to have a relay harness? What would be the consequences (if any) of not doing it. Other markets (not the US) sell kits (namely philips) as Directly interchangeable with the existing halogen headlighting. Those kits are not sold with harnesses. The battery being in the truck causes issues with that setup. Do you know where that would be located in the Sonata Hybrid?

The harness is not required, but whether or not it is "absolutely necessary" is more of a personal decision. In our honest opinion, we believe it is necessary or rather, recommended, to install the HID system on its own electrical wiring with its own fuse running power from the battery. This will circumvent any possibility of the HID system affecting your vehicle's wiring and electrical systems. However, if you ask, have we ever had any issues where our customers chose not to install a harness? Well, none of our customers who chose not to install a harness have ever had an issue, but it is one of those precautionary things that makes sense and it's more of a "why not" among the consensus of the Hyundai forum members. Their reasoning is typically, it's a $30,000+ car and a $20 preventative wire.

We, unfortunately, do not have a Hybrid available to us (shockingly) to figure out where the positive terminal is. However, we can ask forum members for where their positive terminal is located! Our educated guess would be the fuse box in the top right corner, similar to the one in our 2011 Elantra video, however the top left corner looks suspiciously terminal-like as well! First member to provide us with the correct location will receive a 20% coupon towards their next XenonSupply purchase! (You can cheat and look in your owner's manual! Maybe in the jump start section?)

Cheers!
Sean and XS Team

 

Looks like its on the driver side in front of the strut pillar. The gold post cable runs back to the battery. The silver post runs to the HPCU under the coolant tank. Tested with a meter and the gold is hot at all times.

Do I win???

 

QUOTE (eric1r @ Aug 31 2011, 04:05 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=498032

Looks like its on the driver side in front of the strut pillar. The gold post cable runs back to the battery. The silver post runs to the HPCU under the coolant tank. Tested with a meter and the gold is hot at all times.

Do I win???

Winner Winner. Thank you for posting the pics for members to check out. I will PM you shortly with a coupon code as advertised.

Happy Friday everyone,
-Phil @ XS

 

Just ordered. I'll post pics before and after pics for everyone after I get it installed.

 

eric1r
Please do post some pics when you get the HIDs. Specifically where and how you mount the balasts. Also a shot of the dust cap after the whole is drilled and a pic on the harness wiring setup (if you do that type of installation), would be appriciated.

Did you get the 6K or the 4200K kit?

 

Hi,

Several questions.
1) No ground shadows - On the site it mentions how you guys have modified the H7 bulbs to create a no ground shadow output. The hybrid uses H11 bulbs. Have you guys done mods to this kit as well? Or should I be expecting ground shadows due to the ground feed from the HID bulb as per usual?

2) Regarding this part of the ad ".. use the"laborhid" coupon code available to all Hyundai-Forums members, the kit only costs $144.50 and is shipped for free in the lower US 48 states! Regular Pricing on this package is 179.99 and does not include the $19.99 wiring harness."
The advertised price on the site now 169.99 and now does include the wiring harness. So I was wondering how the coupon code will work? As the code mentioned above was roughly a $55 savings if you include the wiring harness into the calculations.

3) The dust cap on the headlight of the hybrid is not flat like the other Sonatas. Has anyone figured out a good way to go abouts drilling a hole? or if anyone has found any other ways around it?

Thanks

 

Hopefully we can answer all of your questions here.

1. The H11 bulb type we sell (Standard Intellight and Premium Philips) does not have the issues that the H7 does and will not have Ground Shadow issues. We have already confirmed with customers the way the ground strip sits in the bulb housing does not affect the light output.

2. Free shipping is available on any purchase over $150 prior to any discount applied. If your package was 151.00 and your discount dropped the price to 149.00, you will still receive the free shipping discount. The accessory relay wiring harness is included in this package and does not affect any discount pricing. Since the "laborhid" coupon has expired, the next best thing we currently offer at this time is our facebook coupon. If you go to www.facebook.com/xenonsupply and like the fan page, you will receive the discount coupon code to use on your next purchase.

3. To drill on a surface that is not flat, it's best to start with a smaller pilot hole and then step up gradually to increase the size. The best way to do this and most efficient is the step drill shown in the installation video. It gradually increases from 1/8in in size to 1 1/2in so you can control the size of the hole. The dust cover will need a 1in opening for the wiring and grommet to fit snugly. You can start the drilling process on the inside of a rounded cover and the center of your drillbit will naturally align itself.

If you have any additional questions just give us a call or email us at Help@XenonSupply or toll free at 1-800-840-3240

Cheers,
Phil @ XS

 

Xenonsupply,
The dust cap used in the Hybrid is the same dust cap used in the Elantra's. You show it in your installation video, although you never really get a good shot of it. I think the hole you drill is off center to fit on a flat spot. But it looks like the grommet is kind of "jammed" in there and does not quite sit to flush (at least on the outside of the dustcap). Have you heard of any issues (dust getting in, etc..) with the installs on the elantra's

 

That is correct, if its the same as the Elantra, the spacing is large enough for the 1" grommet hole. The grommet is actually better squeezed into that spot as it provides a tighter seal than normal on a flat surface.

Sorry for the grainy picture but its the best i could grab from the Elantra Installation Video

Phil @ XS

 

I'll try and get some good pics of my install next week and post them for everyone.

 

Awesome! Can't wait to see your pics!

Just Ordered Mine!
Can't wait!!B)

Please let us know if we can be of any assistance during the installation by emailing us at help@xenonsupply.com or calling us at 800-840-3240.

We thank you for your business and your support!

Sean and XS Team

 

Yesss!

Just Ordered Mine!
Can't wait!!B)

 

ok well i have installed my hid kit i bought from Sean .

first off Sean was great to deal with . I got the kit about 2 weeks ago .
I had my best technician install the kit for me in the shop .

the instructions are abit genericbut you will get the idea .

we took out the headlamps and front bumper cover . The ballists were mounted inside the fenders , there isn't alot of room to mount them anywhere else .

the relay harness (would be perfect if it was 4 " longer ) we ran across the rad support . The power supply was from the fuse box as seen in the above pics.

the wiring itself was very easy , just if you want a nice clean job its better to remove headlamps and cover . The dust caps for the headlamp we used a dremel to make the hole .

the daytime running lamps are the high beam bulbs . the ribbon light turns on when you have your park lamps on .

sorry i dont have any pics to post but i will try to take some and post on here .

I am in Mississauga , On

 

that's good to hear! I as well have installed the hid kit on Wednesday, but the only difference is that I didn't have to remove the bumper or headlights? Not much difference but I will admit, yours will def. Have a cleaner look than mine. I will be posting pics up later as well as my computer charger broke on Monday and my replacement should be coming in tomorrow. Cheers!

ok well i have installed my hid kit i bought from Sean .

first off Sean was great to deal with . I got the kit about 2 weeks ago .
I had my best technician install the kit for me in the shop .

the instructions are abit genericbut you will get the idea .

we took out the headlamps and front bumper cover . The ballists were mounted inside the fenders , there isn't alot of room to mount them anywhere else .

the relay harness (would be perfect if it was 4 " longer ) we ran across the rad support . The power supply was from the fuse box as seen in the above pics.

the wiring itself was very easy , just if you want a nice clean job its better to remove headlamps and cover . The dust caps for the headlamp we used a dremel to make the hole .

the daytime running lamps are the high beam bulbs . the ribbon light turns on when you have your park lamps on .

sorry i dont have any pics to post but i will try to take some and post on here .

I am in Mississauga , On

 

here is a pic!!

 

bschoolchris,
Lights look good. Anyway you could post pics of where you mounted the ballasts. It is very tight under the hood so I am looking for some ideas.
Thanks

 

can someone tell me where to get new or extra dust caps?

 

Your dealer is the best bet for replacement caps. I thought about picking up a set too.