With the dollar flying right now - buying in USA looks more and more like a viable option. Do you know if Hyundai Canada will honour the warranty for a Santa purchased in the USA? :liebe011:
JR2
You'll have to ask Hyunday for that.
But I don't believe it's worth it, there is not enbough difference to talke care of all the costs and duties. There is an outfit in Vancouver that helps buyers with this, and they said that there has to be at least a 10K difference to barely make it worthwile. Now if you were to get a Corvette than there you'd save a bundle!
Dear JR,
This topic has been covered before, so please search the forum for "Warranty" for some of the earlier threads.
Agree with Pelican. You have to factor in all costs to bring your US spec car into Canada.
Byron
This topic has been covered before, so please search the forum for "Warranty" for some of the earlier threads.
Agree with Pelican. You have to factor in all costs to bring your US spec car into Canada.
Byron
That's good to know!
Did you check into the cost of bringing a US spec car to Canadian Specs?
Like DRL and a new bumper system as the US is only good to 2.5 mph and canada requires no damage up 5 mph. Add to that PST & GST cost of documentation and you're for a bundle. These cost ratios are relatively constant xcept for taxes, so you can see that it make more sense to import a very expensive car rather that one that is not.
FALSE!
I imported a VW into Canada, very easy to do. You should have no problem doing so with the Santa Fe. FYI - There is no duty on Santa Fe.
Here's a how-to guide I created to import a vehicle:
http://www.ottawa-vdubbing.com/forums/phpB...pic.php?t=28735
Do not use a broker, it is 100% simple to do yourself, and the costs are minimal. DRL's are enabled by the dealer through the ECU, there is nothing else required. Factor $200 for RIV registration, $100AC tax (which you would pay here anyway) and about $100 for safety/emission (depending on your provincial laws and standards), plu sthe PST/GST which you would pay anyway.
BUT - this is a very big BUT! - you also need to factor incentives into the equation. Hyundai Canada offers 0% financing, if you pay cash and import from the US, you lose that incentive. Even if you pay cash in Canada, demand a discount equivalent to the financing charge.
eg. MSRP $30k, 0% for 48 months = cash rebate of at least $2-3k if you don't finance over and above dealer discounts, and as a non resident, you don't qualify for Hyundai USA incentives.
NO MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED!!!!
I am thinking importing 2007 Santa Fe these days.
A guy at Hyundai dealer in Toronto area said.
- I need to modify DRL and
- change the whole mile odo meter to kilometer for $1,000
- and from july 2007, all Canadian car need immobilizer installed.
however Hyundai dealers can not install it because no part for it.
Are you sure 2007 Santa Fe is easy to modity all those?
A guy at Hyundai dealer in Toronto area said.
- I need to modify DRL and
- change the whole mile odo meter to kilometer for $1,000
- and from july 2007, all Canadian car need immobilizer installed.
however Hyundai dealers can not install it because no part for it.
Are you sure 2007 Santa Fe is easy to modity all those?
The model I bought it’s a 2007 SF AWD Limited 7 pass + XM radio.
I think that importing from US it's the way to go.
Let me tell you why:
All of the following calculations are for 1CAD = 1USD
USA
Price paid: 27000 USD (including mudguards and tray)
RIV tax around 210 CAD
GST: 1620CAD
PST: 1890CAD
Federal + Provincial Inspection + DRL at Canadian Tire: 350CAD
Grand Total=30720CAD
CAD
I got 2 offers from t dealers from Vancouver and vicinities:
I don't remember the details but it was around 37,000 more or less.
Add taxes and Delivery/Destination charges you have a nice amount of
43420 CAD.
Do you have any other question? I think not
I don't know about the engine immobilizer, my SF is from June 2007
If you think that, right now CAD worth more than USD, I bet that even if the government wants 10 engine immobilizers to have on your car, at the and of the day, it's still worth it.
Valicu
I think that importing from US it's the way to go.
Let me tell you why:
All of the following calculations are for 1CAD = 1USD
USA
Price paid: 27000 USD (including mudguards and tray)
RIV tax around 210 CAD
GST: 1620CAD
PST: 1890CAD
Federal + Provincial Inspection + DRL at Canadian Tire: 350CAD
Grand Total=30720CAD
CAD
I got 2 offers from t dealers from Vancouver and vicinities:
I don't remember the details but it was around 37,000 more or less.
Add taxes and Delivery/Destination charges you have a nice amount of
43420 CAD.
Do you have any other question? I think not
I don't know about the engine immobilizer, my SF is from June 2007
If you think that, right now CAD worth more than USD, I bet that even if the government wants 10 engine immobilizers to have on your car, at the and of the day, it's still worth it.
Valicu
Oh... nice story.
I just found this http://www.carhelpcanada.com/?q=node/123
so probably odo meter and speedometer don't need to change.
only DRL needed.
I found about immobilizer here
http://www.riv.ca/english/html/mod_inspect_requirements.html
Anyone know if all 2007 Santa Fe for US sales have the "lock and immobilizer system"?????
BTW, it was a new SF or used?
And.. how long did it take from the pickup of the SF
and pass into Canada back at the border.
If I arrive to the seller in US in the morning,
then can I come back to Canada after noon?
I just found this http://www.carhelpcanada.com/?q=node/123
so probably odo meter and speedometer don't need to change.
only DRL needed.
I found about immobilizer here
http://www.riv.ca/english/html/mod_inspect_requirements.html
Anyone know if all 2007 Santa Fe for US sales have the "lock and immobilizer system"?????
BTW, it was a new SF or used?
And.. how long did it take from the pickup of the SF
and pass into Canada back at the border.
If I arrive to the seller in US in the morning,
then can I come back to Canada after noon?
I got the answer myself.
in the page 20 of http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/importation.../list/VAFUS.pdf
MULTIPURPOSE PASSENGER VEHICLES (MPV)
MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2007 is ADMISSIBLE
MANUFACTURED AFTER SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2007 is INADMISSIBLE
Hyundai Canada dealer sales man said. they can't install immobilizer at dealer.
so we need to check VIN for the manufactured date now. :innocent:
Anyone know Hyundai's VIN meaning? what digit is for manufactured week?
Definitely buy in the US. I bought my 2007 Santa Fe SE AWD in the spring when the dollar wasn't as strong and still save about $3,000 dollars. The only thing required was the day time running lights which I installed myself. If I bring the car back to the US for warranty work it's cover for 10 years or 100,000 mile. If I have and warranty work done in Canada if will go to the 5 year 100,000 KM warranty. Also when you buy in the US you get TPMS that you don't get in the Canada. The US also has available a 2.7L engine in AWD configuration which is not available in Canada. The only thing I noticed was the US Santa Fe doesn't come with mudflaps but are standard equipment on Canadian models.
Hi sn20202020
The car was brand new and regarding the time it took me to pickup of the SF
and pass into Canada back at the border, it's all depends on where the dealer is located.
Mine was in Everett, WA. It's like 150km from the border.
In the end, I crossed the border to US at 9am and I was back at 2pm.
Remember, you need to be back at 4pm, otherwise the car will be transformed into a pumpkin... just joking.
But you still need to cross the border back before the US import hours, from 8am to 4pm M-F, I guess.
The car was brand new and regarding the time it took me to pickup of the SF
and pass into Canada back at the border, it's all depends on where the dealer is located.
Mine was in Everett, WA. It's like 150km from the border.
In the end, I crossed the border to US at 9am and I was back at 2pm.
Remember, you need to be back at 4pm, otherwise the car will be transformed into a pumpkin... just joking.
But you still need to cross the border back before the US import hours, from 8am to 4pm M-F, I guess.
Valicu64,
Thanks!!!
You are making me very serious about buying from U.S.
ruggybuggy,
DRL need to installed? or ECU program change?
DIY is possible and easy?
Thanks!!!
You are making me very serious about buying from U.S.
ruggybuggy,
DRL need to installed? or ECU program change?
DIY is possible and easy?
Hi sn20202020,
I registered on the forum just so I can answer your question.
I live in Toronto. I am picking up my 2007 Sante Fe in the US on Thursday and I am saving, conservatively, $ 6000.00. That's one years payment. I did not haggle hard and I'm sure I could have save more.
I bought the FWD SE model for around $ 21500.00 including mud flaps, mats, DRL activated at the dealership, wheel locks for my 18 inch wheels.
The models configurations are different in US vs Canada and I find the US version more suited to my needs.
I exchange the Cdn dollar when it was 1.07, the same day was 1.10 but I had to work and couldn't exchange it in the morning. So after the exchange rate, my car is probably cheaper then $ 21000.00
Only fees to pay are the RIV fees, $ 200 approx, GST, PST. All on credit card so I can accumulate points in my loyalty program which happens to be the driver edge.
Again, the savings estimate is conservative, I'm sure it's more but I won't do all the numbers until I come back this Thursday night.
Warranty is covered by Hyundai USA. Immobilizer is not an issue as my vehicle was built before Sept 2007. Even if it was afterwards, you can install a 3rd party regulation approved one for $ 500.00
The high Cdn dollar plus difference in price is a chance that does not come around often. If you are serious then do it before this all changes.
Very good info. thanks!!
I am also in Toronto.
Sounds good
- DRL can be activated at US dealership.
- 3rd party Immobilizer only $500? Really? Then no need to check manufactured date on the door label.
do you know when Canadian warranty start?
Will it start on the date we register ontario plate?
I believe your Thursday trip is just the first visit to pick up.
Btw let us know what happens at the pickup done.
I think all the canadian dealers will drop their price soon by shopping from US like us.
Today, I've heard sad news from US dealer that
Hyundai USA announced no more selling new vehicles to Canadians anymore, effective immediately on Nov 20 2007.
WTH No dealer would sell new one to Canadians.
Why poor Canadians must pay $6,000 ~ $12,000 dollars more than rich Americans?
Hyundai USA announced no more selling new vehicles to Canadians anymore, effective immediately on Nov 20 2007.
WTH No dealer would sell new one to Canadians.
Why poor Canadians must pay $6,000 ~ $12,000 dollars more than rich Americans?
Man.. believe me, the salesman now does not want to sell any new cars to me, Canadian. Actually he wants, but he can't.
When I asked Hyundai Canada about this a few months ago I was told that Canadian dealers can get reimbursed by Hyundai USA for warranty repairs on US purchased vehicles, but that it is left to each dealer to decide if they want to do the repair in the first place. Even if they did, I was advised that the dealer would likely charge for the repairs, and then provide a refund (less administration fees) if/when they were reimbursed by Hyundai America.
We weren't willing to deal with the potential headaches so ended up buying a Canadian GLS model instead of the fully loaded US Limited model. The price would have been about the same when everything (exchange, taxes, import fees, financing, etc.) was taken into account, but the Limited would have been a better value vehicle for the money spent.
There was a recent article in the Globe and Mail (I think earlier this week), that talked about the issue of people initially having to leave any car built post Sept 1, in the States due to the immobilizer issues, for those cars without it in the States. Apparently they have now been allowed to bring them into Canada, to sit in their driveway as they cannot be licensed until this issue is dealt with, which I wouldn't hold my breath on.
Apparently this was first announced as a Canadian requirement 2 years ago. It is supposedly just coincidence that after the CDN dollar increase, and the influx of purchases from the states, that this new legislation takes affect, thereby insuring soverienty of the Auto industries canadian price gouging.
Apparently this was first announced as a Canadian requirement 2 years ago. It is supposedly just coincidence that after the CDN dollar increase, and the influx of purchases from the states, that this new legislation takes affect, thereby insuring soverienty of the Auto industries canadian price gouging.
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