I would think you should be able to find (4) steel Sonata wheels somewhere, just put some plain old valve stems in them, mount and balance your snow tires, and drive..

No need for TPMS for a few month out of the year, when you put your Hyundai TPMS sensor equipped alloys back on, all will be well.

 

QUOTE (sbr711 @ Jun 17 2010, 07:47 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=333923

I would think you should be able to find (4) steel Sonata wheels somewhere, just put some plain old valve stems in them, mount and balance your snow tires, and drive..

No need for TPMS for a few month out of the year, when you put your Hyundai TPMS sensor equipped alloys back on, all will be well.

My dealer said I would just have to cover up whatever light comes on to tell you the tires are low if it will be annoying. I'm also planning on getting good quality winter tires on plain black rims, nothing fancy, but will save my nice wheels for the summer.

 

QUOTE (sbr711 @ Jun 17 2010, 07:47 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=333923

I would think you should be able to find (4) steel Sonata wheels somewhere, just put some plain old valve stems in them, mount and balance your snow tires, and drive..

No need for TPMS for a few month out of the year, when you put your Hyundai TPMS sensor equipped alloys back on, all will be well.

Here where I am it is winter tire time from Mid November to mid April - If I can get used Sonata steel rims with hub cups I will go for it but bare black steel rims are a bit too much for me for 5 months at a time Buying new hub caps and new steel rims is almost as much as buying inexpensive mags .

 

For us Canadians our Sonata's do not have TPMS in them so no need to worry about it. I got 18" on my car and can confirm no TPMS also, no mention of TPMS in the Canadian manual and no light on the dash for it. Dealer confirmed it too when they dismounted the tires off the stock 17" rims.

Myself I'm using the stock 17" Limited wheels for winter and going with either Nokian Haka R or try one of the cheaper alternatives like the General Altimax Arctic. The Generals are dirt cheap but from what I read they perform really good. Other option is the Michelin X-Ice XI2. I've used Nokian's on my old car and they are great but expensive, my brother has the Michelin's on his Corolla and likes them, they are about as expensive as the Nokians, the Generals are like 35% less and they seem to be just as good.

Hyundai Canada's website shows 16" steel wheels for $79 for the Sonata. Pretty good price for 16" wheels as Kal Tire Charges a lot more. Also dealers can get just about any make or model of tire and their prices are cheap compared to tire shops. They say they are not a tire store so they aren't going to charge the markup of tire shops. I got my 18" Yokohama Avid Envigor for $145 Canadian each through my dealer, and other stores including Kal Tire wanted $160 each.

According to Fast Wheels the specs for the Sonata is:
bolt pattern: 5 x 114.3
thread size: 12 x 1.50
OEM Hex: 21mm
Hub: 67.0
OEM offset: +46

 

QUOTE (Souks @ Jun 17 2010, 10:55 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=333954

For us Canadians our Sonata's do not have TPMS in them so no need to worry about it. I got 18" on my car and can confirm no TPMS also, no mention of TPMS in the Canadian manual and no light on the dash for it. Dealer confirmed it too when they dismounted the tires off the stock 17" rims.

Myself I'm using the stock 17" Limited wheels for winter and going with either Nokian Haka R or try one of the cheaper alternatives like the General Altimax Arctic. The Generals are dirt cheap but from what I read they perform really good. Other option is the Michelin X-Ice XI2. I've used Nokian's on my old car and they are great but expensive, my brother has the Michelin's on his Corolla and likes them, they are about as expensive as the Nokians, the Generals are like 35% less and they seem to be just as good.

Hyundai Canada's website shows 16" steel wheels for $79 for the Sonata. Pretty good price for 16" wheels as Kal Tire Charges a lot more. Also dealers can get just about any make or model of tire and their prices are cheap compared to tire shops. They say they are not a tire store so they aren't going to charge the markup of tire shops. I got my 18" Yokohama Avid Envigor for $145 Canadian each through my dealer, and other stores including Kal Tire wanted $160 each.

According to Fast Wheels the specs for the Sonata is:
bolt pattern: 5 x 114.3
thread size: 12 x 1.50
OEM Hex: 21mm
Hub: 67.0
OEM offset: +46

Thanks Souks - this is good info - I have updated the 1st posting

I agree with you on the Nokians - I think I will pay a bit if a premium for them and get some of the additional cost back by going for the 16"

Got mixed feelings about not having the TPMS but at least I will save some money or won't have a light in my face all the time

 

times like this when I'm glad I have a 4runner for my winter snow fun

 

QUOTE (NT2SHBBY @ Jun 18 2010, 07:41 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334032

times like this when I'm glad I have a 4runner for my winter snow fun

Hey, when it comes to braking in icy conditions all cars are effectively four runners, then it is only up to the tires. Without winter tires a 4WD just gets you to the scene of the accident faster

 

QUOTE (RamKat @ Jun 18 2010, 07:50 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334035

Hey, when it comes to braking in icy conditions all cars are effectively four runners, then it is only up to the tires. Without winter tires a 4WD just gets you to the scene of the accident faster

not worried about braking or ice.....NY roads are salted/sanded very frequently (which you can tell by all the rust buckets out here) ...my concern is being able to fly through unplowed blocks covered with 10" of snow all the while I'm pounding thru in my 4runner doing 50 in full time 4wd not loosing an ounce of traction

(yes I do 50 in 10" of snow...yes I am that nuts..no I've never got into an accident)

 

QUOTE (NT2SHBBY @ Jun 18 2010, 08:30 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334042

(yes I do 50 in 10" of snow...yes I am that nuts..no I've never got into an accident)

Yeah, but how many have you caused? :whistling:

Don

 

QUOTE (DonRich90 @ Jun 18 2010, 12:53 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334149

Yeah, but how many have you caused? :whistling:

Don

none....there are two types of ppl in this world...accident causers and accident avoiders...I am an accident avoider! (there's a reason why both my 15 yr old 95 legends are mint)

 

Added some links to info on why winter tires are needed in the colder climates

 

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I called around today to seven dealers looking for some take off wheels, but no luck yet. One quoted me $295 for one 16" steel wheel. MAN, I hope this is not going to be the norm for buying parts for these cars? Too new for the salvage yards and the custom wheel centers haven't seen any yet either. Best that I could do today was an aftermarket China made custom wheels at $95 apiece, way too much $$ for just snow tire mounts. On to plan B.

 

QUOTE (snapper41 @ Jun 18 2010, 09:53 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334329

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I called around today to seven dealers looking for some take off wheels, but no luck yet. One quoted me $295 for one 16" steel wheel. MAN, I hope this is not going to be the norm for buying parts for these cars? Too new for the salvage yards and the custom wheel centers haven't seen any yet either. Best that I could do today was an aftermarket China made custom wheels at $95 apiece, way too much $$ for just snow tire mounts. On to plan B.

That is why I want to allow me a few months to find a good deal

I found these specs for the 2009 model - so if you can get a 2009 model your luck maybe in

OEM wheel info:
Steel 16x6.5 offset +46 (~23lbs)
Aluminum 16x6.5 offset +46
Aluminum 17x6.5 offset +46 (~22lbs)
Bolt pattern 5x114.3mm (5x4.5in)
Center hub is 67.1mm

I saw a set of 4 used rims and tires used on an older Sonata for $400 but the rims were already very yellowish - (indicating very old).

 

Added some links to the advantages of Nitrogen in the tires instead of air.

I see one can buy you own home kit (hi pressure cylinder). Does anyone have experience with these kits.

 

QUOTE (RamKat @ Jun 20 2010, 09:02 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334608

Added some links to the advantages of Nitrogen in the tires instead of air.

I see one can buy you own home kit (hi pressure cylinder). Does anyone have experience with these kits.

nitrogen is for suckers. plain old air is already over 75% nitrogen

 

QUOTE (venetian-v @ Jun 20 2010, 10:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334621

nitrogen is for suckers. plain old air is already over 75% nitrogen

It is the other 25% that is the issue.

 

>>>I called around today to seven dealers looking for some take off wheels, but no luck yet. One quoted me $295 for one 16" steel wheel. MAN, I hope this is not going to be the norm for buying parts for these cars? Too new for the salvage yards and the custom wheel centers haven't seen any yet either. Best that I could do today was an aftermarket China made custom wheels at $95 apiece, way too much $$ for just snow tire mounts. On to plan B. >>>>>>>


HE..SHOOOTS..HE SCOOORES....

Plan B, I left my name with a few dealer parts departments and asked them to give me a call if they ever got any take off wheels.
Well to day I get the call, four , like new 17" LIMITED take off wheels with TPM sensors, (no tires) ..$200. SOLD

 

QUOTE (snapper41 @ Jun 23 2010, 10:39 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=335705

>>>I called around today to seven dealers looking for some take off wheels, but no luck yet. One quoted me $295 for one 16" steel wheel. MAN, I hope this is not going to be the norm for buying parts for these cars? Too new for the salvage yards and the custom wheel centers haven't seen any yet either. Best that I could do today was an aftermarket China made custom wheels at $95 apiece, way too much $$ for just snow tire mounts. On to plan B. >>>>>>>


HE..SHOOOTS..HE SCOOORES....

Plan B, I left my name with a few dealer parts departments and asked them to give me a call if they ever got any take off wheels.
Well to day I get the call, four , like new 17" LIMITED take off wheels with TPM sensors, (no tires) ..$200. SOLD

Wha!, my name is at our local dealer too :thumbsup: Have to call the second one tomorrow

 

Looks like my luck is running out in getting a replaced alloy rim set from a local dealer for my winter set. So I will have to buy after market

I cannot get any after market offerings from suitable dealers that have exactly the the OEM specifications as stated in the first post in this thread. I am therefor looking up to folks that have played around with other rims an tires for some guidance. How much of a tolerance will I have with regard to rim width and offset. For the winter set I want to step down to the GLS specification to get a bit more sidewall and a slightly narrower tire that is better for snow conditions. Problem is I cannot find a 16x6.5 alloy rim, only 16x7 and up. Tirerack recommends a 215 for this rim. Will a 205 tire be okay on a 16x7 or will the narrower tire be noticeable?

Edit - With a bit of Google -ing I have found the answer to my question - - first post has been updated

 

My dealer doesn't have nor doesn't expect to have any "take off wheels", so I'm plowing in to the aftermarket.

My query here is simple. The owners manual says stay with the OEM size rims. But TireRack says go -1 (to 16" from OEM 17" on my Limited). Which is correct?

 

QUOTE (Bald1 @ Aug 16 2010, 12:54 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=349696

My dealer doesn't have nor doesn't expect to have any "take off wheels", so I'm plowing in to the aftermarket.

My query here is simple. The owners manual says stay with the OEM size rims. But TireRack says go -1 (to 16" from OEM 17" on my Limited). Which is correct?

In my case I would say both. I have a Limited and I am going for the OEM GLS (16") option in order to get a slightly narrower tire and a bit more sidewall for the spring potholes. If I had a GLS I probably would have stayed with 16" because there is no OEM 15" option available

 

RamKat,

Thanks. And after other sanity checking, yeah I've decided to go with 16" rims for the snow shoes. 16x7 has a diameter of 26.2" with P215/60R16 rubber whereas the OEM 17x6.5J with Kuhmo P215/55R17 has a diameter of 26.3". I think 16x7.5 adds another 0.2" for 26.4 diameter. Not enough difference either way to worry about the speedo.

I hit everything in town and the closest I came were a set of RAV4 rims but both the store and I were concerned about offset and brake caliper clearance. Looking more and more like Tire Rack. They have some reasonable looking alloys for $85 as well as basic black steel for $55.

I'm liking the General Acimax Arctics which are said to be the same as the Swedish Gislaved NordFrost 3's. If I thought I could get away with upgrading the OEM all-seasons to a really good set like Continental ExtremeContact DWS, I'd do it. But I'm concerned that even with our annual snowfall of only 30 or so inches, the black ice, freezing temps, and "wait until the snow stops falling before we plow" approach around here might still be too much for such tires.

 

Bald1,

Use the calculator in the link provided in the first post, it is one of the best that I have seen to see what the effect on the speedo is going to be etc.

I am going pretty much the same way as you are except I am going for Michelin X-Ice as a full winter tire since black ice is becoming more of a commonality lately in our neck of the woods than it used to be. I have been using them on our Tucson and I am happy with them. Tirerack is currently out of stock on the size I am looking for and ETA is 18 Sept > But I am also a big fan of Nokians.

PS The results on the Generals look good but I am wondering if that is with or without studs (we are not allowed to use studs in our province)

For what it is worth I have found this http://www.consumersearch.com/snow-tires/g...-altimax-arctic

 

RamKat,

Thanks for foot stomping that calculator link.... missed it earlier

Now I'm a bit confused again as the 205/65R16 TireRack recommends does have a narrower footprint to the tune of 10mm, whereas the 215/60R16 has the same 8.46" section width as the OEM 215/55R17s. Unfortunately the winter shoes I'm interested in are only available in the 215/60R16, so why go -1 to 16" rims as I thought the whole point was to have narrower tires? Is a taller sidewall an advantage in a winter tire? The fact that 16" tires are cheaper than 17" tires is a given. But still....

Then there's the aftermarket wheel business. The only steel available it a butt ugly black painted number. Alloys are okay but tend not to react well to winter abuse.

BTW the winter tires I have been using on my '99 Forester that is now passed to my youngest son were Cooper Weather-Master S/T 2 which have been great. They replaced Arctic-Alpins and were an improvement.

In answer to your query about the Generals, we're talking without studs (illegal around here too). Lots of online reviews including a big one done in Scandinavia by TireRack. I looked at the X-Ice as well as the current Blizzaks but opted against due to previous experience with both.... the gummy tread wears off quickly reducing the tires to less than stellar performers. I want to get more seasons out of a set than they'll give me.

 

My reasons to go for a 205/65R16 instead of the Limited's OEM 215/55R17? Some of it is probably negligible/theoretical but here goes

a. Winter tires generally have a higher rolling resistance that summer tires - narrower will help to compensate for increased in winter gas mileage and will generate less noise. (compared to the same type of tire)
b. Smaller footprint is better for snow conditions
c. Save a few $ in the purchase price
d. Our roads are very bumpy in early spring due to heaving - ride will be less harsh with the additional 1/2" or so in the sidewall

As far as alloys for winter goes - my understanding is that as long as they are painted they should be okay