QUOTE (Tops @ Jun 11 2009, 05:52 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=241808

For those using iGO on the system in the UK, can these units provide TMS data via the radio?

Neil

As far as I'm aware they cannot provide TMS data.

 

Kiramoon - Well God bless ya! I'm either going to get a 2009 or a 2010 (that has the good nav option)..... But you're helping me steer toward the 2009 especially since the 2010 ltd will lose the Infinity Logic 7 605w.

How odd the Cartek version would arrive drastically different from advertised. If I liked the buttons in the middle, I'd be ticked. Good thing is, buttons on the bottom are what I want.

Oh. You have the GLS. Darn! I was hopeing to glean how to work Logic 7 with this system to retain it. It seems no one with a USA Limited gets a nav.

 

QUOTE (Meagain @ Jun 11 2009, 01:58 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=241827

Kiramoon - Well God bless ya! I'm either going to get a 2009 or a 2010 (that has the good nav option)..... But you're helping me steer toward the 2009 especially since the 2010 ltd will lose the Infinity Logic 7 605w.

How odd the Cartek version would arrive drastically different from advertised. If I liked the buttons in the middle, I'd be ticked. Good thing is, buttons on the bottom are what I want.

Oh. You have the GLS. Darn! I was hopeing to glean how to work Logic 7 with this system to retain it. It seems no one with a USA Limited gets a nav.

Well you are in luck if you are looking for the wiring diagrams and harness to convert it.
thank goodness for http://www.hmaservice.com/
I would recommend it very much.
I've found the wiring diagram and i hope it work.
see pic below i believe the one with logic 7 might be the 3rd and 4th diagram posted

now to order the harness and antenna needed, i may just be able to convert this.

 

Course, the Logic 7 has more channels than the 4 that come with these things - so I still think I'm SOL.
I'd rather have good audio first - nav, etc. second.

 

QUOTE (Meagain @ Jun 11 2009, 02:11 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=241831

Course, the Logic 7 has more channels than the 4 that come with these things - so I still think I'm SOL.
I'd rather have good audio first - nav, etc. second.

You are right, the connectors are available for the logic 7 (its the surround connector) on diagram 2 and 4.
But only supported if the DVD/navigation system support it.
In this case, the connector for the Cartek does not allow the surround connection.

 

The Fly Audio one with the better screen apparently does. I think. It's pricier for sure tho but, maybe it's worth it. They even seem to have a forum.

I wish I could find a unit that supports the Logic 7.

Kiramoon - do you have an iPhone perhaps? Or iPod Touch? And is it Jailbroken?

 

QUOTE (Meagain @ Jun 11 2009, 01:11 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=241831

Course, the Logic 7 has more channels than the 4 that come with these things - so I still think I'm SOL.
I'd rather have good audio first - nav, etc. second.

Why not get Gamin put on your cell phone if you have one. I just downloaded the free trail for my blackberry from Garmin and it works great. My screen size is about the same as what you are going to get on a free standing unit.

The other option of course it to get one of the free standing units. I think the Garmin 265WT which is blue tooth enabled sells for about $269 or less at target stores right now.

When I considered getting one of these radios with the nav system, I started to think about what if I take a vacation and rent a car, or what if I want to drive my other car or have to use a rental if mine is in for service. Of course now that I am seeing these radios on Ebay with a better price of $399.00 that is certainly something to take into consideration.

Jason

 

I have an iPhone and have xGPS on it now tho TomTom and Navigon will have an app this month.

GPS isn't what I'm interested in though. It's everything else I can do with the screen that I want. Playing my iPhone's videos, all the apps running, even a screensaver would be a kick. Also ability to shove in a concert DVD to listen to it without burning or dumping it to my iPhone.

I know Apple is going to come out with a "tablet" and that's really what I'm banking on. I'm seeing it as the perfect thing for a car and would solve all my problems. I just wish I knew what size it'll be. Would love to mount it in the dash.
If not, it'll be one **** of a Nav and more if I can mount it in a good position.

 

Personally, I dont think you can compare a 3 inch screen with wires hanging everywhere to a 6.2 inch built in screen. I suspect most people on this thread bought a Waywell type device for that reason. Really, I think its worth the effort to get it running right. Igo 8 runs really well when its sorted properly, and the whole thing looks OEM. I sold my first one, which was a slightly older version which didnt allow map with music, and bought the new model. Now I have all my music on an SD card in the second slot. Probably not as good as a Pioneer mind you, but much cheaper and looks better in the car.

 

QUOTE (rantipole @ Jun 11 2009, 04:42 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=241856

Personally, I dont think you can compare a 3 inch screen with wires hanging everywhere to a 6.2 inch built in screen. I suspect most people on this thread bought a Waywell type device for that reason. Really, I think its worth the effort to get it running right. Igo 8 runs really well when its sorted properly, and the whole thing looks OEM. I sold my first one, which was a slightly older version which didnt allow map with music, and bought the new model. Now I have all my music on an SD card in the second slot. Probably not as good as a Pioneer mind you, but much cheaper and looks better in the car.

Did you buy the new unit from frank at waywell ,was it a plug and play with no probs? do you get UK and European map and did you have to pay import duty?
cheers CARL

 

QUOTE (carl g @ Jun 11 2009, 06:11 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=241864

Did you buy the new unit from frank at waywell ,was it a plug and play with no probs? do you get UK and European map and did you have to pay import duty?
cheers CARL

I bought the first one on Ebay, and the second from Frank, but both came direct from Waywell. Both completely plug and play, everything working including steering wheel controls. I heard of someone in Ireland where the unit was too big for the opening, and a few have had wiring problems.I havent heard of anyone witha UK spec car having problems though. Its easy to fit if you can wield a screwdriver, the only bit to be careful of is prising off the wood trim that goes right across the front. It could be easy to damage the surrounding plastic, so use lots of tape as padding and take care The first one I foolishly asked for TomTom which didnt work properly, so I put my own Igo on it. Second one came with Igo8 and European maps including the UK, although I didnt use it, as I already have my own customised version of Igo8. In the UK the courier is DHL. Waywell mark it as a gift etc like the Chinese do, but you will still have to pay duty on it. Both times a bill came for duty about 3 weeks later. From memory its about £28. For me the pros and cons are like this:

Its cheap and looks good.
Igo8 is really good software
There is a great deal of customisation and forum support for Igo8

The radio is still not RDS and the radio display is not the prettiest
I have had problems with both of mine playing DVDs, but I dont want to do this anyway
Some of the other interfaces are a little crude (SD, Bluetooth etc)

All in all its worth the effort in my opinion to get this runing well. You probably need to be a little bit computer savvy, because it can be a little bit fiddly to configure. Really, it comes down to what you want. If you are looking for a improved audio system, this is not it. If like me the Nav is most important then its worth it. I have had TomTom, Navigon, Road Angel and Sony aftermarket Nav devices, and they dont compare with this as long as you set it up right. I have had better, (Nissan Birdview), but you cant really compare the two, as one is somewhere around the £2000 mark! You take a bit of a punt buying these because there is not a lot of after sales service available, and its expensive to send them back to China if necessary, but the second one has worked well for me so far.
Just my opinion of course.

 

Wishes someone here had a video camera that can upload a few youtubes showing how these run.

 

QUOTE (rantipole @ Jun 11 2009, 04:42 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=241856

Personally, I dont think you can compare a 3 inch screen with wires hanging everywhere to a 6.2 inch built in screen. I suspect most people on this thread bought a Waywell type device for that reason. Really, I think its worth the effort to get it running right. Igo 8 runs really well when its sorted properly, and the whole thing looks OEM. I sold my first one, which was a slightly older version which didnt allow map with music, and bought the new model. Now I have all my music on an SD card in the second slot. Probably not as good as a Pioneer mind you, but much cheaper and looks better in the car.

I do not think its fair to say you do not think we can compare a 3 inch screen with wires hanging everywhere because that statement is simply not true. The Garmin model I mentioned has a built in battery and so does the BlackBerry Storm cell phone. Unless you are the passenger are you really going to be watching movies and playing with your iphone while running down the road? If you do I am one that hopes you are not on the same roads I am. Of course its a personal choice and I guess it depends on how much you live in your car. If you are going to camp out or live in your car then by all means you need all the bells and whistles. You have already mentioned this Radio is not an upgrade in quality, and if that is the case, the function it was first designed for, then aren't you just spinning your wheels?

There are lots of things that many electronic devices can do these days. With cars, you never know when they will be broken into and what the thief is after but it used to be that high end radios were on the top of that list.

Jason

 

QUOTE (ComicDom1 @ Jun 14 2009, 02:42 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242424

I do not think its fair to say you do not think we can compare a 3 inch screen with wires hanging everywhere because that statement is simply not true. The Garmin model I mentioned has a built in battery and so does the BlackBerry Storm cell phone. Unless you are the passenger are you really going to be watching movies and playing with your iphone while running down the road? If you do I am one that hopes you are not on the same roads I am. Of course its a personal choice and I guess it depends on how much you live in your car. If you are going to camp out or live in your car then by all means you need all the bells and whistles. You have already mentioned this Radio is not an upgrade in quality, and if that is the case, the function it was first designed for, then aren't you just spinning your wheels?

There are lots of things that many electronic devices can do these days. With cars, you never know when they will be broken into and what the thief is after but it used to be that high end radios were on the top of that list.

Jason

Hmm 3" screen hard to see vs 6.2" screen and easy to see. That pretty much would sum up my argument. Really everyone has there own thing when it comes to the GPS units they use. What is good for some may not be for others that's the great thing about choices. Personally for me, I'd much rather have the built in unit, I have my Sat radio running through it, built in GPS that I never forget, yes I can watch movies and I do when we are out and parked somewhere and the wifes watches them during lunch at work,her cell phone is connected through it so no need to remember bringing headset along. So there are many plus sides to having the unit built in. So when talking about comparing, sorry I do and the built in unit in the dash wins IMO. (BTW I had a Navigon 4.3" unit and several others, but this unit made more sense in the end)

 

QUOTE (dpdurst @ Jun 15 2009, 08:46 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242559

Hmm 3" screen hard to see vs 6.2" screen and easy to see. That pretty much would sum up my argument. Really everyone has there own thing when it comes to the GPS units they use. What is good for some may not be for others that's the great thing about choices. Personally for me, I'd much rather have the built in unit, I have my Sat radio running through it, built in GPS that I never forget, yes I can watch movies and I do when we are out and parked somewhere and the wifes watches them during lunch at work,her cell phone is connected through it so no need to remember bringing headset along. So there are many plus sides to having the unit built in. So when talking about comparing, sorry I do and the built in unit in the dash wins IMO. (BTW I had a Navigon 4.3" unit and several others, but this unit made more sense in the end)

To each there own. I am old and perhaps old fashioned. I just have a hard time justifying the costs and effort involved in getting that unit running if you can get it running right to make it worthwhile. In addition, it has been admitted in the thread that the sound quality coming out of it is not exceptional. On top of this unless you can do the installation yourself, you have additional costs involved.


If watching DVD's is when someone is out and about and sitting still, there are portable self contained units out there for under $100.00 with much larger screens if vision is an issue. If you are sitting still then does having built in really matter. Personally a $69.99 DVD unit could sit under a car seat until you wanted it, and if it breaks you just lose the DVD and not everything else.

Radio shack has a $99 unit made my Sanyo for fathers day that is normally sells for $299.00. It uses Navi maps. Garmin usings Navi maps as well as verizon. In fact many of the Navigation units use map software for the same company. I think Tom Tom is using something different. Its all about the interface and the bells and whistles that the GPS units have.

If you have your cell phone then you never forget your Navigation unit either. If you have the right GPS like a Garmin 265WT you can bluetooth your cell through that unit so you do not need to remember to bring a head set either.

I have to admit, I almost got caught up in it myself because the unit is an interesting combination device. I am glad I read the thread and sat back and gave it a lot of thought.

As I said to each their own.

Jason

 

I'd have to agree with this. I have a Jailbroken iPhone with the free xGPS. Works darned well. Talks to me. Tom Tom and Navigon will have their apps available very soon. I always have my iPhone with me so there's no forgetting. Just get in the car and put it in its' dock which can be right in front of my face if I want - can better position it for less eye movement if I wanted to see the gps screen.

New iPhone will have voice control over the iPod portion (and phone) also, so I can just speak my artist titles, etc. out loud and have it go through the Infinity. Access to Pandora, Concert DVDs, etc.

Where it gets fun is hooking the iPhone to a nav with the RCA cables to port the movies etc. onto the bigger screen. Youtube, applications, live moving radar - the works.

When the Apple tablet comes out - game over. It'll be my carputer, nav, everything with a gorgeous touch screen - in my car.

But for $300-400 bucks - yea, I'd try one of these IF I was smart enough to bypass the amp in them.
2010 Santy will have a 'proper' Nav option but with a dumb-down of the stereo quality. (NICE MOVE HYUNDAI! NOT!)

 

OK now I need the forum's help! I foolishly trapped the GPS antenna wire on my Waywell unit and have broken one or more of the wires in the cable as the GPS cannot "see" any satellites even though it says it is connected. My questions are:
1. does anyone know how many wires go into the GPS anntenna? If it is two then I can probably cut the existing wire and re-solder.
2. If above does not work does anyone know of a source for a new GPS antenna which is compatible with the Waywell unit? I hesitate to contact our friend Frank as I doubt he will be very helpful!!

Peter

 

QUOTE (glospete @ Jun 15 2009, 12:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242614

OK now I need the forum's help! I foolishly trapped the GPS antenna wire on my Waywell unit and have broken one or more of the wires in the cable as the GPS cannot "see" any satellites even though it says it is connected. My questions are:
1. does anyone know how many wires go into the GPS anntenna? If it is two then I can probably cut the existing wire and re-solder.
2. If above does not work does anyone know of a source for a new GPS antenna which is compatible with the Waywell unit? I hesitate to contact our friend Frank as I doubt he will be very helpful!!

Peter

Hi peter in my old Santa fe i had smart nav fitted the antenna looked just the same as the waywell ones ,they may be a standard antenna it just depends on the end fitting .My new Santa fe had Smart Nav fitted and the antenna is now round and flat and sticks to the wind screen behind the rear view mirror .If you can get a photo of the end i will see if its the same ,then you could get a replacment from a smart nav dealer

 

QUOTE (glospete @ Jun 15 2009, 01:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242614

OK now I need the forum's help! I foolishly trapped the GPS antenna wire on my Waywell unit and have broken one or more of the wires in the cable as the GPS cannot "see" any satellites even though it says it is connected. My questions are:
1. does anyone know how many wires go into the GPS anntenna? If it is two then I can probably cut the existing wire and re-solder.
2. If above does not work does anyone know of a source for a new GPS antenna which is compatible with the Waywell unit? I hesitate to contact our friend Frank as I doubt he will be very helpful!!

Peter

IMO, depending on where the wire is broken, you should be able to attached it, (solder or just eletric tape it)

 

QUOTE (ComicDom1 @ Jun 14 2009, 05:42 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242424

I do not think its fair to say you do not think we can compare a 3 inch screen with wires hanging everywhere because that statement is simply not true. The Garmin model I mentioned has a built in battery and so does the BlackBerry Storm cell phone. Unless you are the passenger are you really going to be watching movies and playing with your iphone while running down the road? If you do I am one that hopes you are not on the same roads I am. Of course its a personal choice and I guess it depends on how much you live in your car. If you are going to camp out or live in your car then by all means you need all the bells and whistles. You have already mentioned this Radio is not an upgrade in quality, and if that is the case, the function it was first designed for, then aren't you just spinning your wheels?

There are lots of things that many electronic devices can do these days. With cars, you never know when they will be broken into and what the thief is after but it used to be that high end radios were on the top of that list.

Jason

The battery runs down, you have to plug it in. There is 400% more screen area than a Blackberry. Which part is not true? I've never watched a movie in the car. I live in my house, not my car. But I HAVE owned both types of device, so maybe my opinion is more valid than yours? I too hope that I am not on the same road as you. I didnt buy it to get an upgraded radio, I bought it to have built in GPS, and it works OK for that. If you prefer something else thats OK too.

 

QUOTE (glospete @ Jun 15 2009, 01:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242614

OK now I need the forum's help! I foolishly trapped the GPS antenna wire on my Waywell unit and have broken one or more of the wires in the cable as the GPS cannot "see" any satellites even though it says it is connected. My questions are:
1. does anyone know how many wires go into the GPS anntenna? If it is two then I can probably cut the existing wire and re-solder.
2. If above does not work does anyone know of a source for a new GPS antenna which is compatible with the Waywell unit? I hesitate to contact our friend Frank as I doubt he will be very helpful!!

Peter

You can get them from www.Maplin.co.uk , Amazon and Ebay. Priced from£5-12. Maplin currently out of stock. They should all work as long as they have an MCX connector. Presumably the cable must be just 2 core based on the connector. It should'nt be a problem to cut a bit out and join the ends.

 

QUOTE (ComicDom1 @ Jun 15 2009, 12:00 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242589

To each there own. I am old and perhaps old fashioned. I just have a hard time justifying the costs and effort involved in getting that unit running if you can get it running right to make it worthwhile. In addition, it has been admitted in the thread that the sound quality coming out of it is not exceptional. On top of this unless you can do the installation yourself, you have additional costs involved.


If watching DVD's is when someone is out and about and sitting still, there are portable self contained units out there for under $100.00 with much larger screens if vision is an issue. If you are sitting still then does having built in really matter. Personally a $69.99 DVD unit could sit under a car seat until you wanted it, and if it breaks you just lose the DVD and not everything else.

Radio shack has a $99 unit made my Sanyo for fathers day that is normally sells for $299.00. It uses Navi maps. Garmin usings Navi maps as well as verizon. In fact many of the Navigation units use map software for the same company. I think Tom Tom is using something different. Its all about the interface and the bells and whistles that the GPS units have.

If you have your cell phone then you never forget your Navigation unit either. If you have the right GPS like a Garmin 265WT you can bluetooth your cell through that unit so you do not need to remember to bring a head set either.

I have to admit, I almost got caught up in it myself because the unit is an interesting combination device. I am glad I read the thread and sat back and gave it a lot of thought.

As I said to each their own.

Jason

Garmin use NAVTEQ maps, TomTom use maps from TELE ATLAS, which is a company they own. Igo can use either. Its the map quality and the software that uses it that counts for navigation purposes, it has nothing to do with "bells and whistles"

 

QUOTE (glospete @ Jun 16 2009, 03:14 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=242614

OK now I need the forum's help! I foolishly trapped the GPS antenna wire on my Waywell unit and have broken one or more of the wires in the cable as the GPS cannot "see" any satellites even though it says it is connected. My questions are:
1. does anyone know how many wires go into the GPS anntenna? If it is two then I can probably cut the existing wire and re-solder.
2. If above does not work does anyone know of a source for a new GPS antenna which is compatible with the Waywell unit? I hesitate to contact our friend Frank as I doubt he will be very helpful!!

Peter

Hi Peter
I have been reading this thread with interest...can you please sen me the instructions to remove dash for Santa Fe...2008 Elite Aus model.. Also, where did you mount aerial....some say it should be outside the vehicle...I see another has oem mounted behind mirror. Do they work OK if behind dash??
wrt rearview camera...there is one her that looks like it fits with no drilling <http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/jasonchen78/product-detailLeHnwTalYDcV/China-Rearview-Camera-for-Hyundai-Santa-Fe-Ca546-.html> not too sure what model SF. Waywell, Witson +++++ other brands from china....look similar. Companies in Aus want $1600 fitted for these units, with map of course.
thnx
Trevor

 

Hi all,
I am waiting on delivery of my new santa fe and i have bought one of these units.
I have a couple of questions if someone could help me out.
1. i have attached pictures of the reverse camera i was sent. Does anyone have one or know how and where is best to mount this?
2. is this camera okay or do i need another type?
3. which off the connections on the wiring should i plug the video feed from the camera into?
4. does someone have a picture of how they mounted their reverse camera?
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Thanks

 

QUOTE (pugsley @ Jun 18 2009, 10:31 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=243213

Hi all,
I am waiting on delivery of my new santa fe and i have bought one of these units.
I have a couple of questions if someone could help me out.
1. i have attached pictures of the reverse camera i was sent. Does anyone have one or know how and where is best to mount this?
2. is this camera okay or do i need another type?
3. which off the connections on the wiring should i plug the video feed from the camera into?
4. does someone have a picture of how they mounted their reverse camera?
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Thanks

Hi Pugsley
Is this the unit from Ryda? http://www.ryda.com.au/Polaris-Hyundai-Int...em-p/pid317.htm
Or did you get from China? Like Trevor said, $1500 AUD - that's a fair bit of readies to think about!

RE mounting the camera - I've seen on other forums where if you have the Elite (top range SF in Oz) they mount it in/under the rear spoiler? May give you a more top down view than say from the number plate? Link Trevors posted looks like it would replace the number plate light fitting? No drilling holes in the tailgate then!

Cheers
Romper