Trunk button unlocks the doors? that just sounds funny to me...

 

Questions:

1. When do you have a chance to insert your keys in, and what do you do, just turn the key to the "on" position, without the need to cranck the starter?

2. Where can one buy and who does the installation?

3. What about this constant worry about voiding the warranty?

 

Originally posted by mamamia@Feb 13 2007, 06:52 PM
Questions:

1. When do you have a chance to insert your keys in, and what do you do, just turn the key to the "on" position, without the need to cranck the starter?

2. Where can one buy and who does the installation?

3. What about this constant worry about voiding the warranty?

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The ones I've had you get in and put the key in and turn it to the "on" position. That turns off the security that's built in and off you go. If you get in and either pressed the brake pedal or took it out of park it would immediately kill the engine if you didn't do the above first. Again, those are the ones I had but this one may be similar.

Another couple of cool features mine had were:

- If you didn't come out and leave after a predetermined time it would shut the car down.
- If the car died the remote starter would automatically restart the engine.
- It had the remote trunk, locks, and windows as well, and when you got out and armed the system it would roll up windows if they were down.

It also had an option for power sunroofs where if it detected rain it would automagically close the sunroof for you whether the system was armed or disarmed.

 

2. Where can one buy and who does the installation?

Any auto accessory shop can sell it and install it. Check the prices. Some quote $700 and some $260 for the same job.

3. What about this constant worry about voiding the warranty?

As long as the starter or any other accessory didn't cause the problem - you're ood. I actually spoke with couple Hyundai dealers who offered remote starters, but they all are using local audio shops. That's why I decided to talk to these shops directly.

The ones I've had you get in and put the key in and turn it to the "on" position. That turns off the security that's built in and off you go. If you get in and either pressed the brake pedal or took it out of park it would immediately kill the engine if you didn't do the above first. Again, those are the ones I had but this one may be similar.

Same thing

- If you didn't come out and leave after a predetermined time it would shut the car down.

All of them do this. I've set mine to 15mins.

- If the car died the remote starter would automatically restart the engine.

I don't think this one does it, but I don't want it anyway

- It had the remote trunk, locks, and windows as well, and when you got out and armed the system it would roll up windows if they were down.

It has nothing to do with remote starter. I actually want to do this as well, but need to check the prices first. I used to have it on all my cars in Europe as a standard feature, and I just don't understand why they don't have it in US.

It also had an option for power sunroofs where if it detected rain it would automagically close the sunroof for you whether the system was armed or disarmed.

This is sweet, but I guess it won't work without sunroof )

 

I would love to have remote start. BUT....I know my dealer would try to void my warranty. They try to get out of fixing things every time I bring it in for a warranty problem. They are the only dealer around so I dont really have a choice of going to another dealership. I would get the remote start today if I knew they wouldnt void my warranty.

 

brihvac, sounds like you should be looking for a new dealer.

I've been so happy with my dealer in St Louis I keep sending business their way. There's another Hyundai in the parking lot due to my spreading the word. It's good advertising.

 

I would love to have remote start. BUT....I know my dealer would try to void my warranty. They try to get out of fixing things every time I bring it in for a warranty problem. They are the only dealer around so I dont really have a choice of going to another dealership. I would get the remote start today if I knew they wouldnt void my warranty.

It's simple. Have your dealer install it.

 

Originally posted by error666@Feb 13 2007, 08:21 PM

It has nothing to do with remote starter. I actually want to do this as well, but need to check the prices first. I used to have it on all my cars in Europe as a standard feature, and I just don't understand why they don't have it in US. 

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All of these features were built into the brain box of the remote starter. If your car had all the power options the box could be wired to them.

 

When I purchased my azera I had my dealer installed the remote starter. The advantage of this over aftermarket is that the dealer programs the remote so that I can remote start with my hyundai remote instead of having an extra aftermarket remote onside. Just sharing my thoughts

 

Originally posted by madderhatter@Feb 14 2007, 09:01 PM
All of these features were built into the brain box of the remote starter.  If your car had all the power options the box could be wired to them.

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What about all the relays? Are they built into the brain too?

 

Originally posted by error666@Feb 15 2007, 10:06 AM
What about all the relays? Are they built into the brain too?

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The relays are already in-place - the same relays the current door/dash switches use already. The box is just sending a signal to these additional items, not providing power to anything. Just like a stereo with a remote amp turn-on wire sends a signal to the amp to turn on when you turn on your stereo.

 

This is wierd. I just got an email from my installer and he says:

It can be done and the cost would be about $200 parts and labor. You might not be able to keep the express up or down feature after the window control module is installed. These are the notes I found regarding your car.

“The driver window motor has an internal circuit that controls the one touch up and down. Integration of a window control module may require the motor to be dismantled to bypass the internal circuit. “


Is this true?

 

Originally posted by error666@Feb 16 2007, 09:06 AM
This is wierd. I just got an email from my installer and he says:

It can be done and the cost would be about $200 parts and labor. You might not be able to keep the express up or down feature after the window control module is installed. These are the notes I found regarding your car.

“The driver window motor has an internal circuit that controls the one touch up and down. Integration of a window control module may require the motor to be dismantled to bypass the internal circuit. “
Is this true?

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Hmm, it's true but I always thought the control was built into the switch and the motor had two different leads. So if you pulled the switch all the way up (one touch) it would send power to a different lead on the motor. I guess you'd have to look at a motor schematic to be sure. Or he'd probably be able to tell for sure when looking at the motor.

 

I think the remote starter maker made it generic enough for cars w/o one-touch windows. I think you hold down one button to raise all the windows and hold down another button to lower all the windows. Your hold time determines the degree of openness.

The circuit diagram from Hyundai clearly shows the driver's switch has two positions: Manual and Auto. Your installer should be able to read the page and make the correct connections w/o dismantling the window actuator, but the diagram shows the connector to the driver's door switch. To get at it the door panel has to be removed then the wires traced from the door to the harness inside the car.

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I stopped by at AVI Boston and they quoted me $340 for an Ultra Start 1270TL installed. They said it will work with the factory alarm and will do keyless entry, trunk and panic. Is $340 reasonable?

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That's a close one. I'd call and ask what they're charging for labor, seems too high. Of course that depends on how long it's going to take to install it. Those are on eBay, new, with buy it now prices of $50. Maybe ask them what they would charge if you just wanted the install and bought it elsewhere ?

1270TL

 

I talked to them and they said they would charge me $270 if I got it myself. I am considering the Viper 5500 SST 2-way since I park about 1/3 mile away from my office. Does anyone here have the 5500?

I'll call them later today to find out what they will charge me for this.

 

Well, I've caught the remote start bug. After visiting Bulldog's website (top-notch) and poring over Hyundai's tech site, I can see why so few people DIY them.

I'm a details guy that can read schematics and follow directions, but the generic nature of the RS and the specific nature of the Hyundai tech site make for some interesting translation challenges. Not the English, which is very good, but "Parking Light Output (-)" to "Tail Lamp Relay." Still not sure about that one, but have voltmeter, will test.

My experience is the same as Madderhatter's: installing one of these things requires a LOT of attention to detail and willingness to "measure twice, cut once;" there's a LOT of wires in there. I selected the Bulldog partly on the basis of their website; not their gee-wiz flash rubbish, but real information I can confirm from the Hyundai tech site and Bulldog's excellent instructions.

Dunno if I'll finish this WE ...

 

Geeze, doesn't anyone like the Astro Start? (made in Canada). Am I the only one who likes them. Starting from 2000 feet away. Great starter!

 

I decided based mainly on the quality and accuracy of the info on their website.

 

Viper 5900 2-way with full alarm and 1 mile range, door lock/unlock and trunk release for $500 installed. I'll probably just go with that since I need the range and the confirmation.