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How To Replace Oil Control Valve on 2.4L Sonata - with pics

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Disclaimer - This method worked for me. Your vehicle may be different than mine or you could run into other problems I didn’t experience. This post is only for informative purposes. Don’t blame me if you try this and damage something. If you have any comments or questions about what I did, feel free to post them.

Diagnosis
The check engine light has been illuminating intermittently on my 2007 Sonata GLS. The car is also difficult to start sometime, requiring more cranking than usual for the engine to fire. I’ve checked it multiple times and the only code is P0011 for “timing over-advanced or system performance (Bank 1).” Researching this, I found the likely culprit was the Oil Control Valve (OCV). I decided to replace it on my car. I bought the part today and installed it.

The factory service manual has additional diagnostic procedures to determine if the OCV is bad.

What You’ll Need
I used the following tools:
3/8" drive ratchet
19mm deep socket
Extension
Pliers
Torx T30 bit
Torque wrench for properly tightening bolts. This is optional, but I highly recommend properly torquing all bolts.
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You’ll also need a new OCV. The MSRP is $53. My local dealer had one in stock. The part number is 243552G000.
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This is a revised part. It is slightly different than the original. the new OCV is on top.
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Location and removal
Here is where you’ll find the OCV. NOTE - I have removed my engine cover, as I feel it serves no purpose. If your car still has the cover, you may need to remove it.
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This is what the general area looks like. The first step is removing a hose that's in the way. Loosen the two clamps holding it in place. I’ve marked the clamps with the red arrows. I used a pair of pliers to loosen them.
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Then, remove the terminals connecting the wires to the sensors. The top terminal has a small button that you push down while pulling the connector off. You can’t see it in this pic, but there is a small wire clip on the lower connector that you need to pry off with a slotted screwdriver.
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The OCV is held in place with one T30 torx bolt. On my vehicle, the oil temperature sensor was blocking me from accessing the bolt. I had to remove the oil temp sensor, which required using a deep 19mm socket and the extension. Next is removing the OCV bolt. The easiest way to get at the bolt is with a 6” or longer extension.
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The bolt turned out to be difficult to remove on my Sonata. It wouldn’t budge and I could feel that it was starting to strip. Stripping out the bolt would be very, very bad, as its location would make it very difficult to drill out. I sprayed it with penetrating oil, which didn’t seem to help very much. I then gave the bolt a few taps with a hammer to loosen up any corrosion holding it in place. I seated the bit in the bolt and gave the extension a few strong taps with a hammer. That seemed to do the trick and the bolt came out. You can then pull out the old OCV.
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The bolt was obviously damaged. I wanted to replace it. It is a M6 x 1.0 metric bolt. My local hardware story didn’t have any Torx bolts, so I replaced it with a flanged hex bolt. In the second pic you can see the corrosion on the threads of the old bolt.
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Reassembly
Torque Specs (taken from my factory service manual):
Oil Control Valve bolt 7.23 - 8.67 ft. lbs
Oil temperatur sensor 14.46 - 17.35 ft. lbs


Reassembly is the reverse of removal. Install the new OCV and torque the bolt. I used a little anti-seize, so removing the bolt would be easier in the future. Replace the oil temperature sensor and reconnect all wires. Then reinstall the hose. Double check everything, start the car and check for any oil leaks around the oil temperature sensor. You’re done.
 

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#65 ·
It is a solenoid. Voltage is applied to the coil and it opens the valve.The problem is generally not a burned out or shorted coil ( bad resistance reading) but a plunger that is stuck from oil gunk. The bulletin actually suggested trying to clean it first. Spray with brake cleaner or carb cleaner. Avoid spraying the electrical contact area. Apply 12 volts and see if plunger moves freely.

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#17 ·
Thank you very much for this post. I have had this same issue for the past two years and I thought I was the only one. I never even found this on Google, guess I wasn't putting in the right search terms. For over two years I've just been clearing the code myself with a scanner I keep with me in the car. (I had a ScanGauge and then an UltraGauge but then even these wouldn't clear the CEL so I just used my Actron.)

I've even had the OCV checked (at Firestone) and they found no issue with it, this was using the TSB which as has been stated here is virtually useless. I changed the sparkplugs (which I would have done anyway) and this helped keep the CEL away for a while. I changed out the ignition coils just today (luckily only paid ~$100 for a low-mileage set from a salvage yard) and was thinking of changing the O2 sensors, then I saw this thread.

I thought the OCV was buried deep in the recesses of the engine itself, I didn't realize I could get to it by just pulling off one hose. Bless you.

I do have a few quick questions:

a) I've found that for stuck bolts, heating up the area with a torch and then spraying penetrating fluid works better; as the threads cool it draws in the fluid. Do you think this method would hurt anything in that area?

b) What is in the hose that you pull off? Coolant, oil, etc.?

c) Did you have to readjust anything in terms of timing, etc.?

d) I notice the new OCV looks much smaller than the old one ("that's what she said"). Has anyone explained whether this would make any difference in performance?

e) Does any oil come out then the OCV is pulled out? If so, a little or a lot?

Thanks,
-Raj
 
#18 · (Edited)
a) I've found that for stuck bolts, heating up the area with a torch and then spraying penetrating fluid works better; as the threads cool it draws in the fluid. Do you think this method would hurt anything in that area?
-I think that's more appropriate for suspension and steering parts, not around the aluminum block and head. Plus there are plastic bits and other hoses in the area. I would not use that method for this repair, but that's just my opinion.

b) What is in the hose that you pull off? Coolant, oil, etc.?
-It is a PCV hose.

c) Did you have to readjust anything in terms of timing, etc.?
-No

d) I notice the new OCV looks much smaller than the old one ("that's what she said"). Has anyone explained whether this would make any difference in performance?
-Automakers sometimes update parts over time, especially if it's a part that commonly fails or has issues. Hyundai updated this part. I haven't noticed a performance difference.

e) Does any oil come out then the OCV is pulled out? If so, a little or a lot?
-No oil came out when I removed it.
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#19 ·
Excellent. Thanks Stephen. I installed my "new" ignition coils last week and until yesterday wasn't getting any codes. I went and got the OCV but have held off putting it in. Finally yesterday the CEL came back on, so I'm going to install it later today.

I also forgot to ask whether it makes sense to replace the oil temp sensor at the same time, or leave it alone?

Thx - Raj
 
#26 · (Edited)
Great post, and I appreciate it! I have been getting P0011 codes lately, and just bought an OCV in hopes that this solves the issue. Just one thing...

Torque Specs (taken from my factory service manual):
Oil Control Valve bolt 7.23 - 8.67 ft. lbs
Oil temperatur sensor 14.46 - 28.92 ft. lbs
The torque spec for the OCV is correct, but for the OTS, I believe the correct torque spec is 14.46 - 17.35 ft-lb. I don't blame stephen9666 at all, however, because the manual does list the torque specs he posted. Then, in another spot, they list a second set of torque specs for the OTS.

I believe the second set of torque specs they show for the OTS, because a torque spec won't typically have a range of over 100% (i.e. ~14 - ~29 ft-lb is a huge range). You'd never see the torque spec for a drain plug, for example, be 25 - 50 ft-lb.

This is what stephen9666 was looking at:

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This is what they add in the section that describes removing/reinstalling the OTS:

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Those who would like to see what we're seeing should download the factory manual from my signature. (I paid for it; you can have it for free, because I think it's ridiculous to have to pay for something like this.)
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#28 ·
I finally replaced my OCV today. The original owner of my Sonata had replaced it years ago, but as I found out, the one that was in there was still of the original design. That's good because it gives me hope that this new one will last.

Just a couple other random points from what I know/learned:

* Because the OCV bolt is steel, and the female threads it goes into are aluminum, you really should only remove it only when the engine is cold.

* I was able to get my Torx bolt out without (noticeably) damaging it. I used Teflon penetrating oil, but I doubt it did anything. I also did rap on it with a hammer a bunch of times, but I have no idea if that helped at all. I had gone to Advance Auto Parts ahead of time and bought the M6 x 1.0 flanged hex bolt (for a rapacious price)... Oh well.

* I didn't have to remove my OTS.

* I didn't remove the PCV hose until it came time to remove the old OCV. I wasn't going to remove the PCV hose at all, because it would be possible to change the OCV without doing so, but it's quite a bit easier if you go ahead and remove the hose.

* Actually, I didn't remove the entire PCV hose; I left the end connected to the PCV valve where it was, and disconnected the other end. Then, I simply bent the hose to get it out of the way. Very easy.

* I used a pair of channel lock pliers to remove the old OCV. It really didn't want to come out!

* I used a magnetic pickup tool similar to this one to remove the OCV bolt and also to replace it. (At one point, I dropped the Torx bit into "the abyss", and was able to get it out using this indispensable tool as well.)

* I dabbed some dielectric grease on the OTS and OCV contacts, because I am weird.

Thanks again to Stephen9666. I wish I had this kind of writeup for every repair escapade I embarked on!
 
#29 ·
Minor update. I didn't clear the CEL when I changed the OCV, because I wanted to know if the replacement fixed the issue. (When the P0011 first appeared, I cleared the CEL, then drove for over 1,300 miles before it came on again.)

After replacing the OCV, I took a really short (1 mile at most) trip around my neighborhood. After that was a ~10-mile trip to work, during which the CEL was on the whole time. But when I started the car as I was leaving work, the CEL was off. Torque later told me that the P0011 was there, but it referred to it as a "grey" code. I haven't used my dedicated OBD-II scanner, and I guess I don't have to.

I love it when things work out!
 
#31 · (Edited)
Hmmmm...I don't think it can. I don't think any of the info I've ever read about it says cleaning the valve will help. That includes the Hyundai TSB on the issue.

Also, Hyundai updated the part to help fix the problems with the valve. If a simple cleaning was all that's needed, I doubt they would have had to update the part.

Pulling the valve out to clean it would be the same amount of work as replacing it. I would suggest you spend the $60 and just replace it. But, I guess experimenting probably wouldn't hurt.
 
#33 · (Edited)
I put it in the linked http://www.hyundai-forums.com/181-nf-2006-2010-sonata/154912-p0011.html thread also but here is the part dealer gave me. 24355-2G500 as an update to the 2G000 according to his notes. No confirmation from SBR711 yet he's checking for me. Dealer I bought from said that the 000 was not fixing some of the trouble codes and this was the fix. He had on shelf, both same price, he brought them out to compare. The 500 had metal nose with mesh over the the center grooves that as you see go all around. What that means??? you'd need to ask the high paid engineers.

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#34 ·
Well it's in and no trouble codes so far. My old one reset itself and light was off already. I had time today to change my oil which was due. Once finished I sprayed the bolts with Kroil again, let it sit about an hour while I changed oil on Sequoia.

Got back to Sonata and had whole thing done in about 15 minutes thanks to prepping up based on stephen9666's help and pics. I bought a new t-30 and 6 point 19mm deep while at the store. Definitely get the 6 point as that sucker is in tight!. The oil temp sensor is a PITA to break loose. looks like Loctite red on the threads. I used just the 19mm with ratchet and tapped it a couple times with a rubber mallet. Took that out and the Torx came out with no issue. Replaced the OCV and reassembled (with some neversieze on torx). I also replaced my air filter, and cabin filter. Next on list some day soon is TB cleaning and ground clean ups. Summer tires need to go back on soon also. I don't know what is worse looking at all the junk on the cabin filter or knowing that the Sequoia doesn't have one?:eek:
 
#35 ·
OK well that didn't work. Went for nice long drive to parents for easter. Coming home CEL popped on. Had the code read today and it's back P0011.

I'm going to say it was about 150 miles after install, cruising light throttle, 70 mph.

Any other ideas? Take the G500 back and get the G000? SBR...where are you?
 
#37 ·
Outstanding write-up. The simplicity in describing the steps and the related pics was so well done that even an old geezer (like me!) could do it! :thumbsup:

^^^ Another benefit of forum membership.