I don't know if this will help but here goes , ( I am long winded) this is what I did ,you can go to either Edmunds.com or Kelly Bluebook .com & enter your search vehicle . nothing on these sites is concrete or gospel but both of them will tell you what the average negotiable price is and will tell the approx. price that people are buying that car for in your area !! it will also give you a idea of your trade in value if you have one , that is just the starting point. then contact multiple dealers and use their internet sales sight and speak to the internet sales manager, do not be afraid to play one dealer against the other !! you will always make your best deal on one they have on their lot , if they don't have what your looking for they can get it from another dealer but its always best to deal on what you have in front of you !! next don't fall for the list of dealer add on's if the say sir the stuff is already on the car say that's fine , but I did not ask for it and I don't want to pay for it , you know stuff like paint protection, window etching nitrogen tire fill etc...
they make incredible % on that crap , I got my window tint for free (they cant take it off)
and remember EVERTHING IS NEGOTIBLE except tax and license !! do not be afraid to say no and don't be afraid to throw something on the table even if you think it's ridiculous, they may surprise you , also you want to see real numbers msrp, and invoice
it's important to remember that it's ok if they don't make anything on the sale of the car
there are dealer incentives they receive from the manufacture that you know nothing about , they make money if they use a certain bank so they always receive something on the back end no matter what!! and don't play the monthly payment game , like what if your payment was this would you buy the car tonight ?? ask to see the invoice you should be able to negotiate 700.00 to 1000.00 off the invoice , ask exactly what you are paying for the car , exactly what the percentage rate is and exactly what the payment will
be , then tell them if anything changes between the time you make your best deal with the salesman and the time you go see the finance manager your out of there !!! and remember they never start out at there best price if you are not educated on the sales process they will take advantage of you !! I learned from my brother-in-law many years ago , he was a finance manager at a huge Lincoln Mercury dealer back in Chicago, when the dealer principle or owner calls at the end of the month he could care less what they sold them for he is always more interested in how many did you sell because his
C.S.I ( customer service index ) is based on how many not how much , the dealerships are always concerned with how many, the dealer that sells the most always gets the gravy
when it comes to ordering cars etc .. if they flat out tell you no they cant do it and let you
walk away thats when you know that they were at their bottom line oh and one more thing don't let them tell you this deal is only good today , if it was good today it will be good tomorrow and the next day too !! good luck go get em !!!ask for any discount you can , loyalty, student, military ,