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Flip Key Pictorial And Resource Guide

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#1 ·
First let me say that I am by no means an expert, but I have some experience with flip keys and thought I’d share my experiences to help those who are looking to take the plunge.

Flip keys for Hyundais seem to be quite popular on auction sites. I’ve really only dealt with one vendor, so I do not have any opinions about other brands/stores.

The flip key style I will highlight is the model with two buttons. My Hyundai Accent OEM fob actually has three buttons, but I decided to hide the panic button because of the lack of a model with a panic button AND a battery holder. Personally I think the flip key looks a bit cleaner and the battery holder is very convenient to install.

The following pics are meant to serve as a pictorial for forum users who are interested in learning more about this simple (for some!) conversion to enhance their ownership experience.

In Canada our keys have ignition chips, and so one must access the chip to place in the flip key module. Those in the USA simply need to use a good copy of their key and insert their fob inside. Pics are from different models, in case those eagle-eyed readers spot differences.
I do not work for these companies nor do I wish to make a profit for them. This is simply my contribution to forum users in the quest for information.

You may notice my emphasis on using a good quality (ILCO) copy of your key. A professional key cutter in my area has allowed me to share these points about keys. Thanks for your contribution, Jason. DO NOT USE THE INCLUDED BLANKS! Here’s why:


“There is a big difference between Korean/Chinese-made keys and USA-made keys: one of the main differences lies in the hardness of the Korean/Chinese keys due to the lower amount of Zinc. These Chinese and Korean Keys are much harder and may wear out the key ignition lock cylinders faster than USA-made standard keys. So basically, Korean/Chinese-made keys (themselves) wear less but the wear on the ignition cylinder in your cars using these Eastern keys would be faster. The wear of ignition lock cylinders may likely cause problems down the line.”

“A thing which makes difference in cutting the keys is its hardness. ILCO, (the largest key manufacturer of North America) after melting the brass for their keys, zinc is added to make the metal a little softer (but to the level not to compromise on the quality of metal to make a key) to ease cutting the key properly. My experience leads me to guess that the Chinese or Korean-made after market keys are made without adding the zinc (to cut on costs), that's why several times, with the key being too hard, it just shoots out of the mount on the key machine. Keys for Honda and Lexus (side winder cut keys commonly known as laser cut keys) from Chinese origin have serious problems in cutting, being more harder than OEM keys and several times have broken my cutter blade while working on these.”

“… I decided to let forum members know the difference between Korean and USA made keys, why Korean-made keys are not cut right, etc. I have been doing research on this issue of the problem with Kia Forte Keys from Korea. I found out that the major difference why there is a problem in cutting the key is its width (cut side measurement). The Korean keys which come with the flip shell have the width of 8.35 mm while the USA-made keys are almost 8.7 mm wide. This difference in width makes a key cutters job from difficult to near impossible.”

“Another difference in these two type of keys which I just noticed this morning is the depth of grooves in the key. The grooves on Korean keys are deeper than the USA keys.”

“The final difference between these keys is the weight. The Korean keys weigh between 5.9 and 6.0 g while the US ones (the USA-made key was machined to the exact dimensions of the Korean key to fit into flip shell) weigh 6.9 g.”

There you go – I’m convinced…

So here you go with my pictorial on the flip key for our cars – I’m sure you could apply the pics to other models. Please post any of your own pics or questions, and we’ll try to help each other out.

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#55 ·
QUOTE (LePapirrikY @ Apr 9 2011, 07:30 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=428256
uhmmm i think i want one, even tho my doesnt have alarm...i really like this key...i wanna be a baller too!!! :D
You're too late. Now you're just gonna have to wrap your key in cardboard and spray paint it black. :bwekk:
 
#56 ·
QUOTE (LePapirrikY @ Apr 9 2011, 09:30 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=428256
uhmmm i think i want one, even tho my doesnt have alarm...i really like this key...i wanna be a baller too!!! :D
PM me and I can hook you up to be a baller just like us! I have one in mind for you! Please let me experiment!

Dave
 
#57 ·
Hello F1JUNKIE,

I didnt know this topic existed until today. I just received my flip key. Here is a visual, http://www.esimall.com/goods/view.php?goodsno=334

I have put the guts of my OEM FOB to my new FOB. Everything seems fine. However, after reading your topic...Im abit nervous using the blank key they gave me. I'm also not sure if my original key has a chip in it (I dont feel like peeling the black holder, yet). I thought the chip would be inside the remote. I have a USA 2010 Sonata Limited V6. I read what you posted about Canadian Cars have chips and not Americans.


Should I just have the blank key filed for now, and then in a month have my original key filed to fit the flip key remote?
 
#59 ·
QUOTE (No43 @ Apr 13 2011, 04:46 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=430048
also, how do i take out the pin roll?

Just hammer' it away using a 1/16 punch?
Yes just use a 1/16" punch - works great!

You can try taking your original key to some place and see if they can read if your key has an immobilizer chip. Either way, you might want to get a copy anyways, if you find your car doesn't use a chip, you won't need to hack away at a factory key. Nothing wrong ever with having a copy around... Let me know what happens!

Love the fob - very cool!

Dave
 
#60 ·
hornet9902's flip key is done. Standard case, no cf wrap and no panic. Will mail out soon.

Dave
 

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#61 ·
Surprise flip key for treydog650 - wanted to make a sample of non-fob flip keys to show people.

Choice of screws for the badge and different colours for the washers, as well as the badge. Why not? lol
 

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#63 ·
QUOTE (F1junkie @ Apr 13 2011, 08:27 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=430179
Surprise flip key for treydog650 - wanted to make a sample of non-fob flip keys to show people.

Choice of screws for the badge and different colours for the washers, as well as the badge. Why not? lol
You need to email me back!!! lol

i really like this and since i dont have a panic you think i can put it in the back???
 
#64 ·
Latest edition to my flip key venture - stainless socket head screws for the back! The top one needs some shaving of the plastic - no biggie - looks much more professional and finished in my opinion - that extra touch of class!

This one should be a winner!

Dave
 

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#65 ·
At the 3 month mark and my wife's flip key is still going strong. Thanks again, Dave. :thumbsup:
 
#66 ·
QUOTE (ultragod @ Jun 10 2011, 01:50 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=459345
At the 3 month mark and my wife's flip key is still going strong. Thanks again, Dave. :thumbsup:

That's great to hear! I was thinking of asking you about it - it's your wife who uses it, yes?

Thanks for the update! I get people from time to time interested.

berserko, how is yours holding up?

Dave
 
#68 ·
QUOTE (F1junkie @ Jun 10 2011, 04:23 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=459424
That's great to hear! I was thinking of asking you about it - it's your wife who uses it, yes?

Thanks for the update! I get people from time to time interested.

berserko, how is yours holding up?

Dave
Sorry for the delay I was out of the country on business. To be honest for the last 3 weeks it worked like crap I knew I messed up the spring I thought it finally gave up. However the pin had started to slip out so the spring wasnt strong enough to push out the key. I fixed it while sitting at the airport it seems good now...
 
#69 ·
QUOTE (berserko @ Jun 13 2011, 03:01 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=460373
Sorry for the delay I was out of the country on business. To be honest for the last 3 weeks it worked like crap I knew I messed up the spring I thought it finally gave up. However the pin had started to slip out so the spring wasnt strong enough to push out the key. I fixed it while sitting at the airport it seems good now...

Yikes! I'll send you out a spring and new pin soon. Sorry to hear that... The pin slipping out is rare, I've only heard that happening if it was removed and reinstalled... PM me your address again please!

Dave
 
#70 ·
Stupid me......or am I just not seeing it.

I understand the key has to be cut, the chip has to be installed on our Canadian cars. However how does the acual remote part work?

Do we use our current remote circuit board, and just simply put it in?
Or does it come with a new one that must be programed to the car?

Duro
 
#71 ·
Stupid me......or am I just not seeing it.

I understand the key has to be cut, the chip has to be installed on our Canadian cars. However how does the acual remote part work?

Do we use our current remote circuit board, and just simply put it in?
Or does it come with a new one that must be programed to the car?

Duro
On mine (US) all you have to do is take out the internals and put it inside the flip key fob. it fits pretty good
 
#73 ·
Well I ordered 2 from the DSP store, just incase I screw one up....

Well see when it arrives, I have no problem switching the remote and security key over, just hope they don't screw the key cutting up

Duro
which key did you actually purchase.. very interested
 
#75 ·
I was considering doing this, and are there other styles of flip keys that would work? I was considering this one:

Folding Key Case for HYUNDAI Tucson Santa Fe Flip | eBay

Theoretically it SHOULD work, right? My key fob for my Accent looks almost exactly the same, if not is the same as the one shown. I'd rather not waste 17 dollars though so I'm looking for other opinions before I decide to do it.

I'd definitely need the panic button, too. So this would be great if it would work.
 
#77 ·
I ordered it. I'm figuring the only thing I'll need to change is the blank, which I intend to do anyways because of what was written in the first post. Worst comes to worst, I can always make a fun little project out of it to try and make it fit. Haha. When I go to get a new blank cut it's the HY-16 I need right? Thats what I read here.

It says it should be delivered in one to two weeks- I can't wait!

Just one question: how do you cut the metal to make it fit the flip key? Like did you just file it, use a dremel, etc., or can the locksmith do it when he cuts the key copy?
 
#78 ·
I ordered it. I'm figuring the only thing I'll need to change is the blank, which I intend to do anyways because of what was written in the first post. Worst comes to worst, I can always make a fun little project out of it to try and make it fit. Haha. When I go to get a new blank cut it's the HY-16 I need right? Thats what I read here.

It says it should be delivered in one to two weeks- I can't wait!

Just one question: how do you cut the metal to make it fit the flip key? Like did you just file it, use a dremel, etc., or can the locksmith do it when he cuts the key copy?
Magical dremel skills