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Flip Key Pictorial And Resource Guide

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First let me say that I am by no means an expert, but I have some experience with flip keys and thought I’d share my experiences to help those who are looking to take the plunge.

Flip keys for Hyundais seem to be quite popular on auction sites. I’ve really only dealt with one vendor, so I do not have any opinions about other brands/stores.

The flip key style I will highlight is the model with two buttons. My Hyundai Accent OEM fob actually has three buttons, but I decided to hide the panic button because of the lack of a model with a panic button AND a battery holder. Personally I think the flip key looks a bit cleaner and the battery holder is very convenient to install.

The following pics are meant to serve as a pictorial for forum users who are interested in learning more about this simple (for some!) conversion to enhance their ownership experience.

In Canada our keys have ignition chips, and so one must access the chip to place in the flip key module. Those in the USA simply need to use a good copy of their key and insert their fob inside. Pics are from different models, in case those eagle-eyed readers spot differences.
I do not work for these companies nor do I wish to make a profit for them. This is simply my contribution to forum users in the quest for information.

You may notice my emphasis on using a good quality (ILCO) copy of your key. A professional key cutter in my area has allowed me to share these points about keys. Thanks for your contribution, Jason. DO NOT USE THE INCLUDED BLANKS! Here’s why:


“There is a big difference between Korean/Chinese-made keys and USA-made keys: one of the main differences lies in the hardness of the Korean/Chinese keys due to the lower amount of Zinc. These Chinese and Korean Keys are much harder and may wear out the key ignition lock cylinders faster than USA-made standard keys. So basically, Korean/Chinese-made keys (themselves) wear less but the wear on the ignition cylinder in your cars using these Eastern keys would be faster. The wear of ignition lock cylinders may likely cause problems down the line.”

“A thing which makes difference in cutting the keys is its hardness. ILCO, (the largest key manufacturer of North America) after melting the brass for their keys, zinc is added to make the metal a little softer (but to the level not to compromise on the quality of metal to make a key) to ease cutting the key properly. My experience leads me to guess that the Chinese or Korean-made after market keys are made without adding the zinc (to cut on costs), that's why several times, with the key being too hard, it just shoots out of the mount on the key machine. Keys for Honda and Lexus (side winder cut keys commonly known as laser cut keys) from Chinese origin have serious problems in cutting, being more harder than OEM keys and several times have broken my cutter blade while working on these.”

“… I decided to let forum members know the difference between Korean and USA made keys, why Korean-made keys are not cut right, etc. I have been doing research on this issue of the problem with Kia Forte Keys from Korea. I found out that the major difference why there is a problem in cutting the key is its width (cut side measurement). The Korean keys which come with the flip shell have the width of 8.35 mm while the USA-made keys are almost 8.7 mm wide. This difference in width makes a key cutters job from difficult to near impossible.”

“Another difference in these two type of keys which I just noticed this morning is the depth of grooves in the key. The grooves on Korean keys are deeper than the USA keys.”

“The final difference between these keys is the weight. The Korean keys weigh between 5.9 and 6.0 g while the US ones (the USA-made key was machined to the exact dimensions of the Korean key to fit into flip shell) weigh 6.9 g.”

There you go – I’m convinced…

So here you go with my pictorial on the flip key for our cars – I’m sure you could apply the pics to other models. Please post any of your own pics or questions, and we’ll try to help each other out.

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#28 ·
2-button, with a panic on back.
 
#29 ·
QUOTE (F1junkie @ Feb 24 2011, 11:29 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=406680
And as far as hitting the fob with the knee (one of berserko's concerns), personally I haven't even touched it while driving, and when properly seated, the knee would go back in an arc, rather than straight up.

TheNEWB is taller than me so maybe he could confirm the realistic likelihood of striking it with his knee while driving?

Well I just picked up my new flip-key fob awesomeness from F1Junkie.

Let me tell sommmmmething to youuuuuu. Its awesome!

One of my friends at work, looked at my keys and then at me; back at my keys; back at me; back at my keys and then said "F&^K me, did you get another new car, what this time a Merc?"

To which I lol'd for a good solid minute.

And no, I dont touch the new key fob with my knee and I'm 6'0.

Thanks again F1Junkie,

NEWB
 
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QUOTE (TheNEWB @ Feb 25 2011, 02:12 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=406731
Well I just picked up my new flip-key fob awesomeness from F1Junkie.

Let me tell sommmmmething to youuuuuu. Its awesome!

One of my friends at work, looked at my keys and then at me; back at my keys; back at me; back at my keys and then said "F&^K me, did you get another new car, what this time a Merc?"

To which I lol'd for a good solid minute.

And no, I dont touch the new key fob with my knee and I'm 6'0.

Thanks again F1Junkie,

NEWB
Funny story, what a difference just a key can make - after all, it's the thing that starts your car!

berserko, might that persuade you to get a flip key? It's the cool thing to do, and this will be another version, with a panic key! Give me a project, please! Give me a chance!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

Dave
 
#32 ·
QUOTE (berserko @ Feb 25 2011, 08:36 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=406795
If you want to sure...

I'll get a copy of my key cut. Come outto kw if you like we can do it dinner and drinks are on me :) Or if you want to do it in the city it'll need to be a couple of weeks. I've had a vendor wining and dining me all week I need a rest bad...
Woohoo! I'll PM you on logistics, I'll hold off until I need to make a jaunt in kw (Kitchener?)

Once my extras come in I'll start working...
 
#35 ·
QUOTE (TreyDog650 @ Mar 7 2011, 10:07 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=411922
What "different style at the top"? i can't see it lol
Not with the flip key, but with the CF wrap - it doesn't wrap around the top, less chance of catching and peeling off in a pocket...

I may do this from now on, way simpler!

Dave
 
#39 ·
March Break for me, decided to do another fob for my GF's Suzuki Aerio (for me). No chip for her key, just another project I can use when I drive it on the weekends.... With each one I learn a little more and get better (I think)...

Cheers

Dave
 

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#42 ·
berserko's modified fob sent out over the weekend, added the panic button - there is a mold line where it's easy to shape out...

ultragod is next I believe...

Dave
 

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#43 ·
So StripedAccent gave me a shout, was basically able to get his done in a day, althought with the chip key design, I used a high quality blank that will need to get cut. A decent job, if I say so myself, but the photos, not so much...

berserko has already received his and has had the blank cut.

Slowly but surely I'll turn the Hyundai guys into flip-nation! lol

Dave
 

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#44 ·
Alright got the key cut this afternoon everything works great!

A huge thanks to Dave who got it done in such a short amount of time (dropped it off and picked it up in a couple of hours) :).



Anyway I was blown away by the finished product, the quality is much much much higher than what I was expecting. I was worried it would be wobbly or not fit right, etc. Overall it feels similar to my fathers VW flip key.

The only thing else I did today was put the emblem on the back to finish it up for an OEM look. Pics to follow!


*reserved for pics*




And for the millionth time, THANKS DAVE! :grin: lol
 
#46 ·
We just got a new dog, she was watching and laying down with me as I finished the flip key for ultragod. This is like berserko's, with a panic button added. Easy to do, now that I know what to do! I now have a flip key-building companion...

Dave
 

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#47 ·
Looks good. I'm excited!
 
#48 ·
Wee bit of downtime, have the day off work to spend with my furry baby Sarah.

Might change to Summer tires today...

Here are pics of Sarah and a random one of my non-Hyundai flip keys with a buddy's at a burger joint...
 

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#50 ·
Finished a flip key for 09Accent - these chip keys need a copied key (I find) - glad I have a good key guy!

CF wrap, no panic button...
 

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#51 ·
Just got my flip key in the mail! Thanks Dave, you da man! Everything works great and it looks good as well!