Originally posted by mc229@Jun 4 2006, 03:31 PM
Yeah, trailers suck, but the gravel trucks are the worst.  They create the whole problem.  I love it when they cut you off, make you get on the brakes, and you look up and in GREAT BIG LETTERING on the back of their rig, it says "STAY BACK 500 FEET, NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WINDSHIELD DAMAGE"

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I really get irritated with tailgaters. It's very tempting to slam on the brakes, but that would cause exactly what I want to avoid. Instead, I weave back and forth and make them think I'm drunk, or hit the emergency flashers a time or 2. Sometimes it works.

Trucks are even worse. Every time we pass one coming head on, I grit my teeth and get ready to protect my face with my hand. I've had them throw rocks into the windshield countless times.

 

Originally posted by bobad@Jun 4 2006, 03:46 PM
I really get irritated with tailgaters. It's very tempting to slam on the brakes, but that would cause exactly what I want to avoid. Instead, I weave back and forth and make them think I'm drunk, or hit the emergency flashers a time or 2. Sometimes it works.

Trucks are even worse. Every time we pass one coming head on, I grit my teeth and get ready  to protect my face with my hand. I've had them throw rocks into the windshield countless times.

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rocks are bad
but you know what worse?
HUGE PUDDLES
i was having a cigarette
and just my luck
a trailer goes by on the other side of the highway throwing up a huge waterfall of dirty grimey jersey acid puke water into my face and the leather seating T___T
i thought i was gonna melt

 

Originally posted by ohsnapitswillayy@Jun 4 2006, 04:50 PM
rocks are bad
but you know what worse?
HUGE PUDDLES
i was having a cigarette
and just my luck
a trailer goes by on the other side of the highway throwing up a huge waterfall of dirty grimey jersey acid puke water into my face and the leather seating T___T
i thought i was gonna melt

Maybe your kids will have 3 eyes and 6 nipples. If that's the case, though, it would be hard to blame it on just the trucks throwing jersey puke water on ya...might be too much jose cuervo, homemade brownies, and who knows what else it is you do for fun in jersey.

As for the puke water thrown on you by the truck...at least it wasn't winter, and you can just use a couple swipes of your wipers to get it off the windshield. I'm sure it's even better for you when it's mixed with sand and salt and won't come off your windshield unless you sacrifice the wiper blades.

 

right now deformed children are the least of my worries as i can see that
vindogz has been feverishly writing away on a i guess infuriated responseto my semi-challenge of his manhood

this is gonna be funnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!

i dont even need homemade brownies to enjoy this

 

Wow, no wonder you make so many assumptions, you're just a kid! You absolutely have no clue. Read your post again and realize how stupid you sound. You talk about people being self absorbed but your rant really shows how selfish and immature you really are. First thing you need to do is stop making assumptions. You don't know how old I am (or young for that matter). Maybe you've had too many close calls with "dickheads" like me because you're the retard initiating the whole thing to begin with. And if slamming my brakes "scares the ****" out of you, then grow up, and don't get on my **** to begin with. You're just a punk little kid. People who drive as aggressively as you cause more deaths than people who drive like me. I don't slam on my brakes everytime somebody gets close to my car. But when people do things like you described in your previous post, (hazards, high beams and then tailgate) well then my friend, you better be prepared to finish what you started...

 

Originally posted by ohsnapitswillayy@Jun 4 2006, 05:03 PM
right now deformed children are the least of my worries as i can see that
vindogz has been feverishly writing away on a i guess infuriated responseto my semi-challenge of his manhood

this is gonna be funnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!

i dont even need homemade brownies to enjoy this

Well then OK...umm, yeah. I don't know if there was any "semi" in the challenge, but you're right about one thing...I'd say give up the brownies.

 

last i recall i was on your a s s which should come up as ***... but seeing the 4 ****'s i think you said dik this time...theres another assumption for you

mmmmm okay


no, the assumptions wont stop
because im gonna make some more, righttt now

wait..i like this one.. "you're just a kid!"
this is one of those lines us kids always haev a cmeback for
**** RIGHT! its the easiest years of my life and im loving it

okay,
you obviously spent the majority of your childhood being sad and unloved
and to you being a kid must have been a bad tihng because you keep implying it to be a BAD THING


from that i can assume BUT WITH reasonable cause
that you had a tough bad childhood, you were probably abused
not too severely, but definitely verbally, as a result
your view of childhood and those still in it as
stupid, naive, unintelligent

you really didnt like being a kid did you?
did nobody ever take you seriously?

physical abuse definitely happened too
obvious in the meaningless threat that you make at the end of your statement
that i must be "ready to finish what i started"?
b/c with you at the end of all the verbal abuse there was some kind of physical punishment and you feel like the only way that someone else can understand the point you are trying to make, (that you are angry)
is to threaten to hurt them. even if it means them plowing into the back of your
new sonata. the very car everyone else here is trying to keep as safe as possible.
and one that you probably had to work for. so youd be ready to throw away
i cant really say a time because i dont know your financial status but you would be willing to throw away such a valuable commodity to prove yourself right.
a common symptom of kids who were abused, b/c they connected the abuse directly with having done something wrong. and hey, its cool to want to be right once in a while but if you're gonna do it kill just yourself while you're at it
at the very idea of a threat you forget all the rest and become extremely defensive
you have to get your point across
even after my many many jokes and what i thought were comical posts that came after i made fun of you
even after i made two slightly blatant attempts to lessen the magnitude of what i said in my earlier posts

i attempted to continue speaking about you making a light joke. saying i would continue to tail and you would keep breaking

but apparently this only infuriated you more because after reading my first post
your mind had already gone into a state of defensiveness. (you know, like passive aggrssive people and stuff. you're one of those superdefensive types)

well thats my psychological analysis of vindogz.
hahahaahah that z sounds so childish at the end of your name
DuNt U kNo dat u kant make wurds plural wIt a Z its S silly

o man. i watch way too much law and order
they always like crack the people like withing a few minutes of meeting them its the greatest.
anyone else here watch that show?

 

If that's you're psychological analysis of me, you've got alot to learn about psychology. It's obvious you're the one crying out for help...I hope you slow down and really think about things before you speak instead of trying to amuse all the people who read this...You may not look so foolish in the future.

 

btw, you cant copy me now. so you're gonna have to come back w a fresh idea.
and lets stop after i make fun of you one last time
cause uhh.. yeah i like having the last laugh and were wasting bandwidth or w.e

-edit-

AWW **** man that was weak
and i was kinda late on this post
okay were done here
vindogz gave me nothing to work with =\

im sure many are relieve to see this end

and you did kinda copy me.
and that make sme think you could never come up with any original ideas as a kid

 

Well, it's gonna be hard to get the last laugh when people are constatly laughing at you and not with you...

 

i dont hear anything? you hear anything?
COME ON MAN AT LEAST IM ORIGINAL

i mean even ME! the JUST A KID
doesnt remember the last time i said

"haha no ones laughing with you idiot there laughing at you hahaaaa"

if they have something to say about what im saying let them say it

im sure ill get my share of criticism.

but thats where there is the difference between me and you,

i care lesssssss, i mean sure if they all start making fun of you with me id be

overjoyed. but disappointment is as far as it gets when people dont think im funny


I would think you would be one of the last they would want making up their minds

for them...REALLY.

you watch much simpsons trying to catch up on your childhood?

you know the big ugly goon that always beats on bart?

bingoooo. there we go ladies and gentleman we've revealed vindogz true identity

(in case you dont know vindogz he was abused just like you!)


OKAY THATS IT VINDOGZ I AM NEVRE SPEAKING OF THIS SUBJECT EVRE AGAIN.
its over done. no mroe wasted bandywide.


i should do things lke tihs mroe to pass the time
rather than go out adn stuff.

so mc229 you wanna calculate how much gas i saved by sitting here and arguiing with vin instead of going 2 miles to 7 11 to buy a dutch. idle in the praking lot rolling. andddd then about a 10 minute drive to finish the product

 

I'm failing to see the point of all of this.
Let's just have talks about our Sonatas, and leave personality out of the discussion.
If you don't have anything nice/helpful/constructive to say, then don't say anything at all. It's possible to disagree without being hostile, so let's try to keep it at that level.
We don't need this to become a fight thread/forum.

 

agreed, i apologize vindogz
lets both continue to use tihs forum in an orderly fashion
and at times where there is what i like to call a


divergence of ideas


just do tihs


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and ill know to shut up

cause umm..yea i can be a reallllllasshole

 

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if i could get even 30mpg i would be jumping w joy

but it seems like even cruising at 50-60 i cant get it over 25

sigh*. how do you do it

right now its residing at 20.5

a big improvement from the 16-17 thta i was getting earlier this year but stilll...


LX v6 w 7k miles btw

 

I think you live in Jersey and I know that the area can be hilly, especially northern Jersey. Also, if you drive hard off the line and open the throttle, you'll kill your mileage there as well. When going down hill, use the shift tronic and use 2nd or 3rd gear to keep you at a steady speed without braking too much. DON"T use the shift tronic to slow you down at first or you will rev the crap out of your engine. Brake to about 30 or 40 and then shift into the lower gear (if you know how to drive stick, you already know this). If there's nobody in front of you to cause you to brake, just coast down in D and that will help tremendously. Also, maintain your speed while going uphill. Don't slow down and then try to catch up, you will kill your mileage that way as well...

 

Originally posted by mc229@Jun 3 2006, 06:49 PM
That would be great!  Know anywhere you can do that for cheap?

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Lots of towns have their local speed shops with the better ones having an on-site dyno. The ones around here charge about $75 for three pulls.

 

Hey, I just read all the rest about the tailgating. I have to add my two cents on that.

First Cent: You ride my **** for long and I will take full advantage of the ABS and you better have a better setup than me.

Second Cent: After you rearend me and we stop I will beat you to a pulp right there on the highway.

You'll learn that the hard way one of these days when you do that to the Wrong person and your mom will get a call from the cops after they find you laying in a ditch with the life beat out of you. Go ahead and keep up with the idiocy.

 

As far as getting 30 mpg, willay:
What Vin said about not killing it from the start is great advice...accelerate slowly and cruise at a moderate speed. Let's be honest, 50 mph isn't for everyone. You could still get 30 mpg while cruising at 55-60 mph if you don't accelerate or brake rapidly. Turning the ESC off also helps but you should only do that within reason. Some people say that there's absolutely no reason you would ever turn off the ESC and that's fine for them. Honestly, I usually leave mine off and have experienced better mileage that way but again, that's not for everyone.

I also use Shiftronic to keep my starts slow; I drop it in the highest gear available in order to do that - helps keep you from revving the engine too much during acceleration. Coast up to red lights when you can; try to anticipate the light changing and plan your attack accordingly - sometimes you can make the light, so get through it. Sometimes you can't, so start coasting even if the light is green far ahead but you see there is no traffic between you and the light to keep it from changing to allow for the flow of cross traffic.

In short, drive conservatively and defensively; be supremely aware of what is going on around you, on the road just ahead of you, and on the road as far ahead of you as possible, and know what you intend to do when you reach that place.
Those are good tips for driving in general; they just happen to be able to get you some great mileage as well.

Oh yeah, and never tailgate Vin or Hatter unless your name is Chuck Norris. :thumbsup:

 

For anyone who still thinks that my 36.5 mpg tank was a fluke, I filled up this morning (only got 32.5 mpg on that tank because the weather was bad and I had to run some errands in town) and in the 223 miles I've racked up since then, I'm currently averaging 35.5 mpg on the trip computer. That's the same as what it showed when I had the 36.5 mpg tank (computed using miles driven/gallons pumped). It just came down from 35.7 in the last couple miles of my drive, because I had to wait 2 minutes at a red light (I would've turned the car off if I'd known the wait was going to be that long), then turn and drive up a steep hill. Bummer...
Still, not too bad, eh? :thumbsup:

 

Originally posted by ohsnapitswillayy@Jun 4 2006, 05:06 PM
divergence of ideas
just do tihs

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hA Ha!

 

Originally posted by mc229@Jun 4 2006, 09:46 PM
Let's be honest, 50 mph isn't for everyone.  Oh yeah, and never tailgate Vin or Hatter unless your name is Chuck Norris.  :thumbsup:

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You hit the heart of the matter. Everyone wants good mileage, but not many are willing to sacrifice for it. Due to the laws of physics, you have to sacrifice SOMETHING to get mileage over ~35 mpg. You must do 1 or more of the following: Drive very slowly (time is money), drive a very small light car (uncomfortable), or buy a hybrid (that will never pay you back).

Chuck Norris can touch MC Hammer.

Chuck Norris plays Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and wins.

 

When the boogeyman goes to bed, he checks the closet for Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris doesn't sleep, he waits.

When Chuck Norris does push-ups, he doesn't push himself up; he pushes the world down.




Oh yeah, just thought I'd mention that I don't weigh 100 pounds, nor do I weigh 200. I'm a "svelte" 6'6" and 300 pounds, so it's not as though I achieve my mileage by a good power-to-weight ratio.

 

Originally posted by bobad@Jun 5 2006, 02:50 PM
...or buy a hybrid (that will never pay you back).

I seriously thought about getting a hybrid, since in my case it most likely would've paid me back. I just couldn't stomach the styling of the current hybrids. Why do they all have to be so wolf-ugly?! I mean, c'mon...the Prius looks like a bad Lego project. And I'm sorry to all you Prius owners out there, I guess that was mean and uncalled for, very rude and demeaning...to Legos.
Plus there is the spectre of crashworthiness - I've heard that paramedics are pretty reluctant to approach a vehicle with battery cells if it's seriously mangled from a collision - and frankly, I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to be near that powder keg should it explode.
Hybrids have come a long way, but they still have a very long way to go. I'm not ruling them out in the long run, just saying that they weren't right for me as of yet.

 

I'd buy the Lexus GS 450 Hybrid. That thing is a monster! forget fuel economy, that thing is fast! Really Fast! :w00t: