I need to ask you this. Did you Search first? I think you messed it up. I see 4.54

 

QUOTE (MiamiLX @ Jan 24 2010, 09:36 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=292788

I need to ask you this. Did you Search first? I think you messed it up. I see 4.54

Yes, i did search first, and found nothing that would explain what i was asking. Yes, i know that a user manual says 4.54gts., but when i put 4.54 qts. in, it only registered as Min. on my dipstick. I then remembered seeing a figure of 5.2L being TOTAL somewhere. I found the "somewhere" to be the HMAService site. The HMAService website also says 4.54, but as you can now see, in addition to that, there is also something called TOTAL, which is 5.49. Do you consider that to be a mistake or a typo on HMAService site?

So, instead of driving around with the oil level being at MIN. mark, i decided to bring it to FULL mark instead. After all, that is the amount that was in it before. Are you saying i made a mistake and should have left it at MIN.?

 

Possibly you haven't got the Sonata Dip stick part down pat yet. I don't know. I go to my Dealer. He doesn't use your figures :innocent:

 

QUOTE (MiamiLX @ Jan 24 2010, 10:02 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=292797

Possibly you haven't got the Sonata Dip stick part down pat yet. I don't know. I go to my Dealer. He doesn't use your figures :innocent:

The dipstick is not the problem here. The oil level was perfectly at FULL mark before doing the oil change, and around 5 quarts came out too. Besides, i already made sure that the dipstick was all the way in when i measured it after the oil change. I measured it several times over and over again, and it WAS at MIN. mark, no doubt about that.

How can official HYUNDAI service site numbers be 'my figures'? And how do you know how much they have to add to to bring yours to FULL mark? But you have a different motor, so your figures could match the ones in the owner manual.

 

OK I'll bite. Perhaps NAPA stuck in too much Oil. The Dealer had NAPA do it? I thought NAPA is an Auto Parts Store.


The Dip stick is somewhat hard to read. Did you use a New Crush Washer and Gasket? I still think something is wrong!

 

QUOTE (MiamiLX @ Jan 24 2010, 10:42 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=292820

OK I'll bite. Perhaps NAPA stuck in too much Oil. The Dealer had NAPA do it? I thought NAPA is an Auto Parts Store.


The Dip stick is somewhat hard to read. Did you use a New Crush Washer and Gasket? I still think something is wrong!

If NAPA put too much oil in it, then how did my dipstick always read as normal. It was very easy to read, cuz the old oil is significantly darker than new oil. I measured it right after i bought the car, and a few more times after that with the last time being right before my own oil change today. After putting in 4.5 quarts, the area above MIN. mark was bone dry, but i know what you mean by dipstick being hard to read. It has streaks of oil very high up on the dipstick (probably leftover oil from previous measurements that gets dragged along).

And yes, i put on an OEM Hyundai filter and brand new washer that the dealer also gave me, but i don't know what you mean by 'gasket'.

Tell me, what do you think of the figure the HMAService site gives as TOTAL oil capacity being 5.2L/5.49gts.. Surely that can't be a mistake or a typo.

 

So this part doesn't look familiar? :whistling: As a note all further Oil Change posts really belong in the DIY section.

 

QUOTE (MiamiLX @ Jan 24 2010, 11:25 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=292827

So this part doesn't look familiar? :whistling: As a note all further Oil Change posts really belong in the DIY section.

Haven't i already made it more than clear that i have a 4 cylinder engine, not 6. In my third post i even mentioned that you had a different engine.... :innocent:

And what does this thread have to do with DIY exactly? I am not showing anyone how to do anything. This is like any other thread where one asks for opinions from other forum members.
What i don't understand is how you can completely blow off the figures given on an OFFICIAL Hyundai repair site.
I really don't get why that part about the TOTAL oil capacity isn't in the owner's manual that comes with the car, or how there is such a huge difference between drain & refill with filter, and something called TOTAL capacity. That TOTAL seems to be exactly what my engine needs to bring it to FULL mark.

 

Oh the 4 Cyl does not have the O ring, and it is not the Cartridge type. I have never seen one.

Hard to know if what you are posting from HMA is correct. I don't go there. I go to the Dealer where

they put in 6 Quarts. I will be moving this soon to DIY as you are the only Sonata owner that seems to need an extra quart in the 2.4

Perhaps other Hyundai Model owners can chime in on the problem. I still think you just put in too much Oil.

 

QUOTE (MiamiLX @ Jan 25 2010, 12:12 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=292838

We will be moving soon to DIY as you are the only Sonata owner who seems to be having this problem. :liebe011:

Most people probably take their cars somewhere to have their oil changed, so they have no way of knowing how much gets put in. If NAPA is any indication, then oil change places seem to go by the dipstick. Maybe the dipstick on my car is too short? :whistling:
So, you're moving my thread to DIY because nobody else besides you has replied to it yet? Others don't have to have the same problem to give me their ideas, you know. Someone may have an answer as to what the TOTAL is, or why is it higher than drain & refill.

 

Here's another image excerpt from HMAService site about oil change procedure for 2009 2.4L Sonata that also shows a Total as 5.2L/5.49gts.

 

I'm sorry as I was just reading up on the 7 pages of Sonata Oil Threads for both the V6 and the I4. Good reading!
http://www.hyundai-forums.com/index.php?ac...p;hl=Oil+Change

I'll leave this here for now, but in the 4 Years I have been a member, you are the only one to have this problem.

No one is close when it comes to an I4 that requires as much oil as the V6 Model. :trophy:

 

QUOTE (MiamiLX @ Jan 25 2010, 01:46 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=292855

I'm sorry I was just reading up on all the Sonata Oil Threads for both the V6 and the I4. Good reading!
http://www.hyundai-forums.com/index.php?ac...p;hl=Oil+Change

I'll leave this here for now, but in the 4 Years I have been a member, you are the only one to have this problem. No one is close

when it comes to an I4 that requires as much oil as the V6 Model.

Thanks for the link, will check it out. Maybe the reason so much oil came out, and i had to put so much in was because i let the old oil drain for about 45 minutes and jacked up the nose a bit to get it all out. I think the Total 5.2L means an absolute maximum the engine takes when it's bone dry, but with today's 10 minute oil changes that simply is not enough time to get that much out, hence the lower figure for drain & refill.
Besides, suppose my dipstick is defective/short, or whatever, and i did overfill it, then i don't think that amount is enough to damage the engine. I put in about 4.8 liters/5.1 quarts, so that's only half a quart more from the drain & refill figure.

 

QUOTE (MiamiLX @ Jan 25 2010, 01:46 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=292855

in the 4 Years I have been a member, you are the only one to have this problem.

Really? From one of the threads you gave me. The exact thing as mine:
http://www.hyundai-forums.com/index.php?sh...p;hl=Oil+Change

an excerpt:
I think I may be able to answer your question about the difference. In my case I use the four cylinder engine and it calls for something like 4.59 quarts with filter. (something like that). I noticed that when I put in the specified oil amount it didn't come up to the top of the dipstick. So I kept adding until I had put in a full five quarts. It sits right on the full mark right now. What I think is going on is that the oil change is predicated on the vehicle being on an lifting ramp and level to the ground. I had my car on a pair of in-cline ramps and consequently the last drops of the old oil came out as the oil plug is at the rear of the oil pan. I suspect the difference is made up in the fact that some oil would be left over if the vehicle was entirely level with the ground and the manufacturer (any manufacturer) doesn't want to overfill the oil sump because of oil foaming which will be detrimental to the engine.

and another one:
Engine Oil capacity 2007 V6

Bought an 07 with only 5500 miles a month or so ago and am ready to do my first oil change. Have read all of the posts I can find on the subject and noticed a discrepancy in the Engine oil capacity between most of the posts what my owner’s manual says.
Most on this board are saying to use 6 quarts.
However, my Owner’s Manual and Maintenance Log Book clearly indicate the capacity is 5.49 quarts on the 3.3L V6.
Not implying the ½ quart difference is a real big deal but rather wondering how or why most have reached the conclusion that 6 quarts is the correct refill amount.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about it. You have done the correct thing by going by the dipstick reading.

Without knowing the real meaning of the numbers provided by Hyundai we are just guessing. The dipstick has a MIN and MAX (or LOW and FULL, I don't recall off the top of my head) but we don't know if the drain and fill number is at the minimum mark or full mark. Based on your findings and my own experience with my Sonata (with the 3.3) I would say their published number is representing the minimum mark. Maybe their goal was just to make sure that the oil would not be underfilled.

I also agree that the highest number is likely the maximum amount the engine should take if completely drained. It is quite likely that your long drain period got more oil out than would be typical. I know when I change my oil it never completely stops trickling/dripping out before I put the drain plug back in.

 

He's not crazy at all...my "09 I-4 is the same. Always put 5 qts. in and end up just a tic from the full line.

 

QUOTE (talaub @ Jan 29 2010, 10:00 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=294050

He's not crazy at all...my "09 I-4 is the same. Always put 5 qts. in and end up just a tic from the full line.

You might have put the dipstick in upsidedown (wrongside up).
I just changed my oil. Put in nearly 5QT because I remembered that it always about 4.5 qt.

Checked the dipstick after running the engine. It was at low.
I redipped. Low again.
I flipped the stick and redipped.
Now it's above High.
Flipped back and dipped. Low again.

Go figure.

 

I average 5 1/4 to 5 1/2 on customer cars... put 5 in, start engine, shut off, walk long way around, check oil, add to "F" dot on dipstick.. can't be any simpler than that.

 

QUOTE (sbr711 @ Mar 22 2011, 09:55 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=419201

I average 5 1/4 to 5 1/2 on customer cars... put 5 in, start engine, shut off, walk long way around, check oil, add to "F" dot on dipstick.. can't be any simpler than that.

In my 3.3, I drop in 6 quarts every time. I just know its full, although it may be a tad over filled, I can never really tell with the dipstick.

 

I have a 2008 Sonata with a 2.4L. When I put ~4.5 quarts in after a oil/filter change, it always brings the dipstick to the middle of the min and max marks.

I would guess that Hyundai published "4.54 quarts" to help prevent overfilling, which can be as bad or worse than underfilling. Then again, "4.54 quarts" (or "4.3 liters") is an awfully specific figure for that to be the case.

In any case, you are fine as long as the oil level is between the min/max marks.

 

I recently changed the oil on my 2009 Sonata GLS (2.4L0 and now have a slight oil leak at the drain plug.
Does anyone have a part number for the crush gasket??

Was hoping to run out and pick one up at the local auto parts.
They dont seem to have a part number for one. So, hopefully somone here can help.

Thank in advance.

 

My local parts guy gives me crush gaskets for free. Obviously you cannot expect that and I do not go in expecting it, but he's just nice that way. If you need some other parts anyway (air filter, cabin air filter, oil filter, etc.), maybe it's worth going in, then asking about the crush washer later on in the process.

I use a Fumoto quick drain valve F-106N and it doesn't leak a drop. No washer changes needed, either.

 

QUOTE (Wirkinman @ Aug 24 2011, 06:48 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=495300

I recently changed the oil on my 2009 Sonata GLS (2.4L0 and now have a slight oil leak at the drain plug.
Does anyone have a part number for the crush gasket??

Was hoping to run out and pick one up at the local auto parts.
They dont seem to have a part number for one. So, hopefully somone here can help.

Thank in advance.

Just go to local Hyundai or Kia dealer..... we buy them in bags of gross quanity, drawer full of them, beside those taped to the box for spin on filter,, the canister filter has ring iside the box as part of the kit.

 

QUOTE (Wirkinman @ Aug 24 2011, 05:48 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=495300

I recently changed the oil on my 2009 Sonata GLS (2.4L0 and now have a slight oil leak at the drain plug.
Does anyone have a part number for the crush gasket??

Was hoping to run out and pick one up at the local auto parts.
They dont seem to have a part number for one. So, hopefully somone here can help.

Thank in advance.

I personally do not have much confidence in those aluminum crush washers. I always use Hyundai filters and my dealer gives a new drain plug gasket with it every time as well. Used them until mine too had a leak. Went to Autozone and bought something a little softer (not sure what's it made of but feels kinda plasticky. I've had it on for three change cycles now and so far no leak.

 

QUOTE (Negative 1 @ Aug 24 2011, 06:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=495305

My local parts guy gives me crush gaskets for free. Obviously you cannot expect that and I do not go in expecting it, but he's just nice that way. If you need some other parts anyway (air filter, cabin air filter, oil filter, etc.), maybe it's worth going in, then asking about the crush washer later on in the process.

I use a Fumoto quick drain valve F-106N and it doesn't leak a drop. No washer changes needed, either.

How long have you had this installed ? Fumoto quick drain valve F-106N