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I just got this today. Interesting read - http://www.windingroad.com/articles/review...sonata-limited/
Don
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Similar to the Sonata, I have not seen a bad review yet for the Kizashi. I plan on driving one before I take the plunge.Kizashi very interesting
I definitely understand where reviewers are coming from when they talk about the disconnected feel. In a Limited or GLS, you may as well be steering a video game steering wheel. The SE is a lot better from an enthusiast point of view. As for the transmission gripes, I have no clue. My Sonata has the smoothest, most responsive auto transmission I've ever owned.i have to admit, I find it interesting that most reviews I've heard comment both on the Sonata's "disconnected feel" from the steering and suspension because I do not experience either in my SE. Perhaps Hyundai should only be sending SE's to the reviewers? And same about the transmission. In fact, I am quite amazed at how smooth my SE shifts gears. I have never had a care that shifted this smooth and I've owned quite a few BMW's, a couple Audi's and even a Mercedes Benz and the SE's tranny by far out shines them all. Granted I have not driven the latest dual clutch setups in the newer BMWs or Audi's however, the Sonata is still a good ride.
Could it be the tires? It's amazing what influence they have on steering!I definitely understand where reviewers are coming from when they talk about the disconnected feel. In a Limited or GLS, you may as well be steering a video game steering wheel. The SE is a lot better from an enthusiast point of view. As for the transmission gripes, I have no clue. My Sonata has the smoothest, most responsive auto transmission I've ever owned.
I bet it has more to do with removing hydrolic steering. My MR2 is electo-hydrolic (No power steering pump on the engine) and I get great feedback. My wifes Rav is ELECTRIC steering and its vague and numb. Some things I guess get given up in the quest for MPG. *shrug*Could it be the tires? It's amazing what influence they have on steering!
I'm used to road feel/feedback being that I own two 1995 Acura Legends and have owned BMW's and a Lexus GS400 past tense. All of these cars exhibit a ton of road feel/feedback which on NYC streets does not work for me. I would rather have numb feeling which is one thing the SE has which I love...that and the lack of the power steering pump whine when u go on a full tilt turn.I bet it has more to do with removing hydrolic steering. My MR2 is electo-hydrolic (No power steering pump on the engine) and I get great feedback. My wifes Rav is ELECTRIC steering and its vague and numb. Some things I guess get given up in the quest for MPG. *shrug*
I would say it's the dialed-back assist. Makes it more substantial, less floaty.Could it be the tires? It's amazing what influence they have on steering!
As the technology progresses I bet we will get more feel. This is in its infancy.I'm used to road feel/feedback being that I own two 1995 Acura Legends and have owned BMW's and a Lexus GS400 past tense. All of these cars exhibit a ton of road feel/feedback which on NYC streets does not work for me. I would rather have numb feeling which is one thing the SE has which I love...that and the lack of the power steering pump whine when u go on a full tilt turn.
I don't plan on getting another Hyundai so......As the technology progresses I bet we will get more feel. This is in its infancy.
Interesting point. Now that you mention it, when I got my Sonata, all the tires had almost 10lbs. psi too much and the ride *was* a bit "floaty". Took the air out and problem fixed! Now it handles *very* well. Not as good as my Z4 mind you, but it's constantly surprising me.Could it be the tires? It's amazing what influence they have on steering!
It not just Hyundai that does this. Many manufactures are doing it.I don't plan on getting another Hyundai so......![]()
I'm with you on this. No complaints regarding the transmission here. Maybe we just need to drive more cars (or they need to drive less cars). Also in regards to the floaty feeling, I bought the SE because I wanted a little more road feel. All in all I would rate it good considering it has electric driven PS.I'm also confused about their transmission complaints. I haven't owned that many cars but my Sonata's transmission is the smoothest I have ever experienced. Maybe they got a car
with a bad tranny.
I don't know
my Sonata SE has no issues yet...but I don't daily drive her either....Hyundai has definitely come along way, but still not near Honda or Toyota quality IMHO...It not just Hyundai that does this. Many manufactures are doing it.
Those of you that are saying that the Tranny is smooth, are you dogging on it? Do any of you have many hills? Thay are not complaining about smooth, they are complaining about incorrect shifts IE: Holding a high gear to long when a down shift is necessary and other such natures.