Which One Of These Tires You Like:

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arasem

Discussion Starter · Sep 16, 2010

So after getting a good info from everyone on in one of the previous forums, I am ording my first set of tires tonight. I have the following, if you were which one would you consider? Man, this tire research is a full time job.
My current tire size is 235/60/R18 on Santa fe limited 2008

General Grabber HTS -255/55/R18XL Cost: 731 from Internet (includes shipping)
FireStone Winterforce 225/60/R18 ----> I think these are winter tires Cost: 600 from local dealer
Michelin Lattitude Tour 245/60/R18 cost: 600 from local dealer

I am leaning towards the Grabber since I can use it through the whole year and it seems it had good reviews. But offcourse your experience is much more worth than what I know.
Please let me know.. so excited to try new set of tires.
Thanks

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canderson

· #2 · Sep 16, 2010

QUOTE (arasem @ Sep 16 2010, 07:44 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=356621

General Grabber HTS -255/55/R18XL Cost: 731 from Internet (includes shipping)

Very good combined dry and winter performance. Very good tread life specs. Tough XL construction. Low rolling resistance (always nice for the mileage). Good treadlife warranty.
Speedo will read a tiny 0.2% faster than actual.

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FireStone Winterforce 225/60/R18 ----> I think these are winter tires Cost: 600 from local dealer

Slightly better in snow and ice, slightly worse on wet and dry pavement. No tread or traction rating (common with straight winter tires), so no assurances on life = No treadlife warranty!
Speedo will read 1.6% fast. That's about 1mph at 60mph.

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Michelin Lattitude Tour 245/60/R18 cost: 600 from local dealer

Identical survey results for wet/dry/snow as the General HTS. Tread and traction ratings very similar to those for the General HTS. Very good treadlife warranty.
Appears that it may be a LRR (Michelin's "Green X") tire, or may not. I don't see that note associated with the 245/60-18. Double check that. LRR = a little better gas mileage.
Speedo will read 1.6% slow. You'll see 60, but you'll be doing 61. Not bad, just remember.

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I am leaning towards the Grabber since I can use it through the whole year and it seems it had good reviews. But offcourse your experience is much more worth than what I know.
Please let me know.. so excited to try new set of tires.
Thanks

You can use either the Grabber or the Latitude Tour year round. Both have very good wet/dry performance in addition to snow. Both also have prorated warranties for tread life. I'd stay focused on one of those two if you want to leave them on the car year-round. Construction of the Michelin isn't as heavy duty. If you're thinking of having any little off-road adventures, think of the Michelin as a "passenger" tire (it is) and the XL load rated Grabber as a true "SUV" tire (it is), and as such, capable of a bit more abuse (including curbs, if you're a klutz!).

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canderson

· #3 · Sep 16, 2010

QUOTE (arasem @ Sep 16 2010, 07:44 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=356621

General Grabber HTS -255/55/R18XL Cost: 731 from Internet (includes shipping)
Michelin Lattitude Tour 245/60/R18 cost: 600 from local dealer

Also, I'd keep shopping around to find someone with stock or who can order the HTS. They should cost LESS than the Latitude Tours.

rpmking

· #4 · Sep 18, 2010

I would also look at Kumho & Yokohama, OEM size about $600 shipped. B)

ECO SOLUS KL21
[*]AVID ENVigor<sup></sup>

canderson

· #5 · Sep 18, 2010

QUOTE (rpmking @ Sep 17 2010, 08:20 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=356986

I would also look at Kumho & Yokohama, OEM size about $600 shipped. B)

ECO SOLUS KL21
[*]AVID ENVigor<sup></sup>

Can't get excited about the Solus KL21 (yet - not enough history), but the Yoko Avid ENVigor is well worth a look in this size tire. Decent year-round performance and priced right. ALSO a much heavier construction than the Solus. XL rated like the HTS Grabber. Likely to survive one of my weekends in the mountains! Are these available "up north"?

rpmking

· #6 · Sep 18, 2010

At a glance comparison of the two forementioned tires, tirerack appears to offer shipping to Canada.

Kumho Solus KL21 specs - P235/60R18 102H - BSW 500 A/A, 6.5-8.5 rim widths, 28.9 lbs.

http://www.kumhousa.com/Tire_SizeChart.asp...18-e434055ee8bc

Yokohama Avid Envigor - 235/60R18 107H BSW XL 560/A/A, 6.5-8.5 rim widths, 30.80 lbs.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/spec.asp...=AVID%20ENVigor

canderson

· #7 · Sep 19, 2010

Yeah but... these tires aren't necessarily being manufactured in the U.S., so I'd imagine that on top of the duty that Tire Rack pays to get them into the U.S., the OP will be screwed again by duty into Canada. NAFTA (don't get me started) doesn't cover trans-shipped goods that come through the U.S., only U.S. produced goods. Add brokerage fees just to do the paperwork, and I'm wondering what the added cost is to ship tires north ??? You'd have to find out what the country of origin was from TireRack to know whether you were going to get socked.

The Yokohamas could be coming out of their Virginia factory, and that would save some serious $ on duty, but they could also be coming from one of the Japanese factories or the PI. The Kumhos only come from Korea or China, so duty would apply.

sn20202020

· #8 · Sep 16, 2011

arasem said:
General Grabber HTS -255/55/R18XL Cost: 731 from Internet (includes shipping)
FireStone Winterforce 225/60/R18 ----> I think these are winter tires Cost: 600 from local dealer
Michelin Lattitude Tour 245/60/R18 cost: 600 from local dealer

I am choosing one of these tires for my 2007 SF.

* Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring - 235/60R18 109H Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring
* General Grabber HTS - 255/55R18 102V General Grabber HTS

Both tires are highly ranked, similar priced and good for light snow.
I am leaning to ComforTred because it's weight (30lbs) is 4 lbs lighter than Grabber HTS(34lbs) with hoping for a little better mileage.
Any experiences on these tires?

Ruperts Trooper

· #9 · Sep 16, 2011 (Edited)

canderson said:
QUOTE (rpmking @ Sep 17 2010, 08:20 PM) Can't get excited about the Solus KL21 (yet - not enough history), but the Yoko Avid ENVigor is well worth a look in this size tire. Decent year-round performance and priced right. ALSO a much heavier construction than the Solus. XL rated like the HTS Grabber. Likely to survive one of my weekends in the mountains! Are these available "up north"?

I've got Kumho Solus KL21 on my SF as OE - can't wait to change them - they're no good as an All-Season tyre as the compound is too hard and grip in cold, wet weather is very poor.

I'll be fitting 235/60R18H Vredestein Quatrac 3 SUV, they're proper All-season tyres with M+S rating AND the "3 peaks" Winter rating - UTQG rating is 400AA.

BGORSTI

· #10 · Sep 16, 2011

I actually used 235/55-18 Bridgestone Dueler Alenzas on our old 07 SF.
60mph is 58.1- other than that a great tire.

Zoom49

· #11 · Sep 16, 2011

sn20202020 said:
* Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring - 235/60R18 109H Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring
* General Grabber HTS - 255/55R18 102V General Grabber HTS

Both tires are highly ranked, similar priced and good for light snow.
hoping for a little better mileage.
Any experiences on these tires?

I had the Generals on my previous CUV, Excellent tire and they are a low rolling resistance design for better fuel efficiency. I will buy these again for the SF in about 8 months when we need new rubber. Sorry no snow here in L.A. so no experience in that area.

Danny S

· #12 · Sep 16, 2011

sn20202020 said:
I am choosing one of these tires for my 2007 SF.

* Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring - 235/60R18 109H Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring
* General Grabber HTS - 255/55R18 102V General Grabber HTS

Both tires are highly ranked, similar priced and good for light snow.
I am leaning to ComforTred because it's weight (30lbs) is 4 lbs lighter than Grabber HTS(34lbs) with hoping for a little better mileage.
Any experiences on these tires?

Went with the Goodyear Assurance on my '07 Santa Fe. Discount Tire was surprised to see how rapidly the little truck burned the tread off. Nice even wear all the way round, but I was back for replacements after !40K mi.

Tire was markedly less noisy on the road, wet weather handling was excellent, nice looking tire, but wear was not up to par for a ~700 tread wear rated tire.

JPpatches

· #13 · Sep 16, 2011 (Edited)

Danny S said:
Went with the Goodyear Assurance on my '07 Santa Fe. Discount Tire was surprised to see how rapidly the little truck burned the tread off. Nice even wear all the way round, but I was back for replacements after !40K mi.

Tire was markedly less noisy on the road, wet weather handling was excellent, nice looking tire, but wear was not up to par for a ~700 tread wear rated tire.

So what did your replace with and why ???

I like the less noise issue.

Danny S

· #14 · Sep 16, 2011

Discount Tire prorated me about 50%, put the same Goodyears back on.

Tire guy suggested I might consider truck tires next time, GVW is ~5,300lbs for these things?!

SantaFeFan

· #15 · Sep 18, 2011

I had the Bridgestone Dueler Alenzas on my Acura MDX and they were horrible. OK in the snow but the mileage was bad and the tire was LOUD...

I would lean toward the Generals and Yokohamas... Both are very nice tires.

sn20202020

· #16 · Sep 26, 2011

sn20202020 said:
I am choosing one of these tires for my 2007 SF.

* Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring - 235/60R18 102V Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring
* General Grabber HTS - 255/55R18 General Grabber HTS

Both tires are highly ranked, similar priced and good for light snow.
I am leaning to ComforTred because it's weight (30lbs) is 4 lbs lighter than Grabber HTS(34lbs) with hoping for a little better mileage.
Any experiences on these tires?

I was shopping for the Goodyear ComforTred Touring 235/60R18 102V in Toronto area,
I got $1,030~1,060 quotations from some tire shops that include 4 tires, balance, install and all taxes.
The cheapest was surprisingly Canadian Tire,

$934 which I got installed now.

Also I'll get mail rebate of $80 from Goodyear.
so actual cost will be $854 after rebate. Wow not bad at all.

If you're in Canada and looking for the same tire, check it out. Canadian Tire $181.99
You can install at other shop if you don't like CT's installation.

JPpatches

· #17 · Sep 27, 2011

Note,

Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tread Touring.

Some current Forum chat boards are bringing up the issues of too much softness and mushy type ride along with some questionable steering responses.

Be sure you but this tire for the right reasons.

Just Sayin.....

Neanderthal

· #18 · Sep 30, 2011

arasem said:
So after getting a good info from everyone on in one of the previous forums, I am ording my first set of tires tonight. I have the following, if you were which one would you consider? Man, this tire research is a full time job.
My current tire size is 235/60/R18 on Santa fe limited 2008

General Grabber HTS -255/55/R18XL Cost: 731 from Internet (includes shipping)
FireStone Winterforce 225/60/R18 ----> I think these are winter tires Cost: 600 from local dealer
Michelin Lattitude Tour 245/60/R18 cost: 600 from local dealer

I am leaning towards the Grabber since I can use it through the whole year and it seems it had good reviews. But offcourse your experience is much more worth than what I know.
Please let me know.. so excited to try new set of tires.
Thanks

I had the Winterforce and returned them, they were NFG. No real difference from the all seasons.

Not familiar with the others, I'd check the Tire Rack ratings and go with that.

wolvesdude

· #19 · Sep 30, 2011

i just bought Goodyear Eagles GT...cant wait to see whats its gonna do this winter...

sn20202020

· #20 · Oct 1, 2011 (Edited)

wolvesdude said:
i just bought Goodyear Eagles GT...cant wait to see whats its gonna do this winter...

If you wanted all weather tires for winter use,
Goodyear Eagles GT is not good choice.

Goodyear Eagles GT
Surveyed Averages 7 89% 6.9 8.1 8.3 8.4 8.7 8.3 6.9(light snow) 5.6(deep snow) 5.8(ice) 7.6 7.2 6.7 3,325,865
Consumer Survey Results By Category

Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring
Surveyed Averages 1 100% 8.0 8.9 8.8 8.4 9.2 8.4 8.7(light snow) 8.0(deep snow) 7.8(ice) 9.1 9.0 8.9 996,917
Consumer Survey Results By Category

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