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QUOTE (dvscool @ Jul 23 2010, 12:35 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=344158
How about I bought it because it is a great car and a great car for the money. :bwekk:
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I bought it for the following reasons: Price; Features; Warranty. I would put me in the 'great car' bracket, though. When compared with the competition, the Sonata is a great car outright. Add to that the warranty and the price and it was a no-brainer!
I'm going to have to say "both". When I first saw one, I was amazed at how good the new design looked but had a difficult time wrestling with the notion that it was/is a Hyundai. When I started doing research and went to the dealership to get a close-up of it, I was further amazed at what a great car it was for the money. The curb appeal was first, the drive was second, and the stuff it came with (including the awesome warrantee) for the price is what had me signing the dotted line :wub:
When I started looking at cars, I had decided on the Accord because of resale value,
reliability, and I liked the styling.
Went by the Hyundai dealer which was next door. I always car shop late at night when the sales lizards have gone for the day because you can walk the lot and look inside the cars without being bothered. When I saw the Sonata, I thought, what a great looking car!
From there, I did a lot of research. The warranty was impressive and the Sonata had
several options standard that the Accord charged extra for.
I spoke with a few people who owned a Hyundai and they were happy with their car.
So, for me it was a great looking car with a very good warranty, great gas mileage at a lower price than the Accord.
Great car for the money.
reliability, and I liked the styling.
Went by the Hyundai dealer which was next door. I always car shop late at night when the sales lizards have gone for the day because you can walk the lot and look inside the cars without being bothered. When I saw the Sonata, I thought, what a great looking car!
From there, I did a lot of research. The warranty was impressive and the Sonata had
several options standard that the Accord charged extra for.
I spoke with a few people who owned a Hyundai and they were happy with their car.
So, for me it was a great looking car with a very good warranty, great gas mileage at a lower price than the Accord.
Great car for the money.
QUOTE (Modernity @ Jul 23 2010, 01:35 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=344187
I came from a 08 Accord.. Be glad you didn't purchase. I loved my accord but it was not quite at all. Seems Honda saved a little money putting it together.
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I dont think you have to seperate the two. The bang for the buck factor plays a major role in making it a "great car". If it costed 5k more I probably wouldn't have got it.
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Hopefully no one yells "Off with his head" after reading this but...
What defines a great car varies by person by person, but a lot of it depends on what you paid. If I spent $40k on a car that was exactly like the '11 Sonata, I would be disappointed in the sloppiness of the electronic power steering and I would be unsatisfied with the suspension (especially in the SE). I wouldnt be happy that I do not have a power passenger seat or HIDs. I wouldn't like the weak sounding horn, or the cheapness of the hard plastic dial on the nav system and would think the little man button on the HVAC was poorly designed since its just an overly ornate mode switch.
The Sonata is a really nice looking car with excellent features (compared to other cars in its class), and its being made by a car company that has improved its image and quality drastically over the past 15 years. I will be buying one of these cars very soon because it meets (and in some ways exceeds) what I expect from a $25k car. Again, if I spent $40k for the same thing, I would definitely not be happy...the car hasnt changed, but the price did.
I think the '11 Sonata is a GOOD car that is GREAT for the money. There definitely is some room for improvement, and I believe Hyundai is the right company to do it. Its not there in the "great" car echelon.
What defines a great car varies by person by person, but a lot of it depends on what you paid. If I spent $40k on a car that was exactly like the '11 Sonata, I would be disappointed in the sloppiness of the electronic power steering and I would be unsatisfied with the suspension (especially in the SE). I wouldnt be happy that I do not have a power passenger seat or HIDs. I wouldn't like the weak sounding horn, or the cheapness of the hard plastic dial on the nav system and would think the little man button on the HVAC was poorly designed since its just an overly ornate mode switch.
The Sonata is a really nice looking car with excellent features (compared to other cars in its class), and its being made by a car company that has improved its image and quality drastically over the past 15 years. I will be buying one of these cars very soon because it meets (and in some ways exceeds) what I expect from a $25k car. Again, if I spent $40k for the same thing, I would definitely not be happy...the car hasnt changed, but the price did.
I think the '11 Sonata is a GOOD car that is GREAT for the money. There definitely is some room for improvement, and I believe Hyundai is the right company to do it. Its not there in the "great" car echelon.
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·QUOTE (Mike Eckman @ Jul 23 2010, 12:54 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=344195
Off with his head ....lol.
I would tend to agree with you, having put it that way...
thus...it would seem the 2011 Sonata is a great car for the money....
Off with his head ....lol.
I would tend to agree with you, having put it that way...
thus...it would seem the 2011 Sonata is a great car for the money....
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Great sub $30k car.
I had a very large window of cars I was looking at. A5, CLS, Sonata.
I could have leased the A5 with a bit of a lower payment than my last car. I could have picked up a CPO CLS500 for about the same as my old car. I decided I wanted a Sonata SE when I saw it, how nice it looked, and when I realized it would save me over $400 a month compared to the used CLS.
Had the economy not gone in the tank, I may have gotten one of the other cars. However, getting the Sonata seemed like the responsible thing to do. Not to mention all the gas and insurance I'm saving not driving a V8 MBZ. The A5 would have had less options than my Sonata does as well. Is the Sonata as nice of a car as the A5 or CLS? No. What it does is offer high end style and a refined interior, at a killer midsize sedan price.
I am sold on this car and have suggested it to others I know. I am looking forward to driving the turbo.
I had a very large window of cars I was looking at. A5, CLS, Sonata.
I could have leased the A5 with a bit of a lower payment than my last car. I could have picked up a CPO CLS500 for about the same as my old car. I decided I wanted a Sonata SE when I saw it, how nice it looked, and when I realized it would save me over $400 a month compared to the used CLS.
Had the economy not gone in the tank, I may have gotten one of the other cars. However, getting the Sonata seemed like the responsible thing to do. Not to mention all the gas and insurance I'm saving not driving a V8 MBZ. The A5 would have had less options than my Sonata does as well. Is the Sonata as nice of a car as the A5 or CLS? No. What it does is offer high end style and a refined interior, at a killer midsize sedan price.
I am sold on this car and have suggested it to others I know. I am looking forward to driving the turbo.
For it's segment, I think it's a great car. It's segment, in my mind, includes the Camry, Accord, Fusion, Malibu, Gallant, Legacy and probably a few I'm forgetting. The fact that it's also less expensive than those other cars also makes it a great car for the money.
But it's not a great car when compared to entry-level luxury cars like a BMW, Lexus or Acura. Better bang for the buck, sure. But a better car, not at that level or anything higher.
I think a few years ago people that bought the Sonata rather than a Camry or Accord did it solely based on price and more features for the money. Now I think they've done a good job of competing heads up. The Sonata still needs to be priced lower due to the stigma of the Hyundai name. But that is starting to change, albeit very slowly.
But it's not a great car when compared to entry-level luxury cars like a BMW, Lexus or Acura. Better bang for the buck, sure. But a better car, not at that level or anything higher.
I think a few years ago people that bought the Sonata rather than a Camry or Accord did it solely based on price and more features for the money. Now I think they've done a good job of competing heads up. The Sonata still needs to be priced lower due to the stigma of the Hyundai name. But that is starting to change, albeit very slowly.
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QUOTE (snapper41 @ Jul 23 2010, 10:11 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=344314
In terms of pure driving substance, the Sonata is not great. Many cars are far better. But they cost exponentially more. (How about a $1,500,000 Bugatti Veyron?) If one were to qualify this decision with price, many may argue that a $25,000 Sonata is a much better value those other cars, especially a $125,000 Maserati. In today's car world, price and greatness go hand in hand.
It seems that is EXACTLY what they are saying. The term "great" is too subjective and must be qualified with price. If someone said "Here, pick one of these cars as a free three-year lease. You just pay for gas, that's all. But at the end of the three years, you give the car back. Your choices are a Sonata, Audi 3.0 A6, BMW 550, Mercedes E550, Porsche Panamera turbo, Lexus IS 350, or a Maserati Gran Turismo." (All sedans of similar size.) Which one would you chose? Would you select the Sonata? Probably not. That's because the Sonata is not as good as those cars.
In terms of pure driving substance, the Sonata is not great. Many cars are far better. But they cost exponentially more. (How about a $1,500,000 Bugatti Veyron?) If one were to qualify this decision with price, many may argue that a $25,000 Sonata is a much better value those other cars, especially a $125,000 Maserati. In today's car world, price and greatness go hand in hand.
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QUOTE (dvscool @ Jul 23 2010, 11:35 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=344158
I don't think any cars in this segment are "great" for the money. I think there are "good"
and "better". I certainly think the Sonata is the best in the segment for the price.
Wait, I recall a while back, someone reported getting an LX for ~$24K. Now THAT's a
great car for the money.
I don't think any cars in this segment are "great" for the money. I think there are "good"
and "better". I certainly think the Sonata is the best in the segment for the price.
Wait, I recall a while back, someone reported getting an LX for ~$24K. Now THAT's a
great car for the money.
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It's both for me......I originally saw the yf sonata at the 2009 LA car show, and this was the one car that really caught my attention over everything else, I was stuck by the sonata front end and the way it just completes itself. Just when I thought I saw every possible front end design; hyundai comes out with the sonata, and of all manufacturers from hyundai ?
the equus was nice to but the sonata really struck my attention in a big way.
fast foward a year, I see a pearl white yf on the freeway and I was like "wow" that is one heck of a car.
I formerly had a gas guzzling nissan pathfinder 4.0 6 banger and that thing took me to the gas station every 4 days, I literally get almost double the mpg now and has cut my fuel bill by almost half.
I promised myself my next car would have to be good on gas, at least 30mpg.....well I guess 27 mpg is close enough.
the equus was nice to but the sonata really struck my attention in a big way.
fast foward a year, I see a pearl white yf on the freeway and I was like "wow" that is one heck of a car.
I formerly had a gas guzzling nissan pathfinder 4.0 6 banger and that thing took me to the gas station every 4 days, I literally get almost double the mpg now and has cut my fuel bill by almost half.
I promised myself my next car would have to be good on gas, at least 30mpg.....well I guess 27 mpg is close enough.
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I can only peak for myself, in that some of us are coming up in quality and price , where as it seem most of the argument discussions are in coming down to the Sonata.
Just ran to get pizza for dinner and the Sonata still happily gets me there and back in style with a smile.
I can only peak for myself, in that some of us are coming up in quality and price , where as it seem most of the argument discussions are in coming down to the Sonata.
Just ran to get pizza for dinner and the Sonata still happily gets me there and back in style with a smile.
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