[dtech]

was the ATF fluid ever changed ? didn't see any mention of that

 

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unless your usage is really really severe like towing heavy sh*t I'd say it's overkill, I have 70 k miles and plan on doing it at 80k . Was nice on older cars to have a dipstick so you could easily check the color and scent. But when I do mine I intend to replace as much fluid as possible using the cooler lines.

 

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I had 25 000km and the fluid looked a bit bad with chunks and metal.... I wouldn't want to see yours at 112 000km?

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Well then I won't show it to you when I drain it - assuming my tranny makes it that long. Another situ where it's up to the individual to decide what maintenance needs to be done at what interval, never hurts to change fluids out, I did do the the rear diff at 60 k miles and it was quite clean. Tranny fluid should become a darker red over time , but finding "chunks" in it seems unusual.

 

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sounds like a bleak and foreboding outlook for my tranny, but seeing this is a 2013 SFS with the illustrious 2.0T Theta II engine - I'm far more concerned about the long term viability of the engine than the Hyundai tranny - which by most accounts would seem to be a solid design.

 

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100K mile warranty so who cares? Let it break

Yes drive it till the fluid is black and super chunked, I'm just extrapolating from the brown and dirty with chunks at 80k miles or under to what it might look like at 100k miles - according to some doom and gloom prognostication.

"Different strokes for different folks and so on and so on boo sha sha"

A little line from sly and the family stone - I saw Joe Walsh do a pretty good cover of it a few yrs back. :laugh:

 

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Sorry to be doom and gloom but Hyundai Kia powertrains are really fragile and imho not really built for the real world. We all got dazzled by the long warranty but its got so many loopholes for the mfg to deny claims it might as well not exist.

And you bought another Hyundai ? Why ? I'm one and done. Price looks attractive but you do get what you pay for.

So was your fluid brown and chunky ? Kind of like Campbell's soup ? So are you saying the entire powertrain is suspect ? As it so turns out I've driven my SFS on some moderate dirt roads, one time on a long 4wd drive road - which is shouldn't be on but thus far the powertrain is holding up.

I mean I'm at times a harsh critic of Hyundai but to say their powertrains are really fragile is something I don't agree with - until mine breaks of course.

 

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AWD takes a hit, at least on the 2.0T it's rated 3 mpg less for highway on my 2013. I'd agree that Hyundai isn't top of the line, Toyotas are much more durable - that will draw some response from folks that had issues with Toyotas, had Hyundai done it's EPA testing properly in 2013 I'd be driving a 4runner - which is a very rugged vehicle , see hordes of them in CO .

I'm read posts here and don't see all that many about rear diff failures and not that many on their tranny, recall seeing that at one point Hyundai was buying their auto boxes but then started making their own - the 6 speed is not a lightweight but seems to be well built. Of course tranny fluid darkens over time - just like oil will doesn't necessarily mean it's past it's useful life.

To me hyundai on the whole builds reliable vehicles - but not the most reliable nor the best design, hence the lower cost. Lease returns are always a gamble as are rental cars - did you have access to maintenance records I hope.

I recently went on a trip requiring high clearance vehicle - really bad road with all sorts of rock, couldn't fit all the gear in friends 4runner so rented a Ford F150, gave that thing quite the workout but even with high clearance frame scraped rocks many times but truck performed well and with 10 speed auto fuel mileage was surprising good, but it's a 50k truck.

Given your experience I can understand your prespective, I'm one and done just because I want something better engineered for off road use. Daughter had excellent results with her 2007 Elantra, but the suspension was p*ss poor on it.

 

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ok I'll do a check on my fluid , seems unusual after 2 yrs the condition of yours. thanks

 

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No DTC codes for either transmission or engine ? Cats usually don't plug unless you had previous engine woes - like a bunch of misfires. When plugged unusual not to see a DTC, same with high temp in the tranny, should trigger a DTC .

Sometimes best to get 2nd opinion when faced with major expense, but at least if your Theta II seizes you get a new engine for free !