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I'll start by asking some questions, in the off-chance that someone knows:

Will a 185/70R14 tire on the OEM rim fit in the trunk well (sedan) without bulging (stock tire size is 175/70R14)?

Will the 09149-3X000 Styrofoam case (or other) fit in the OEM 14-inch steel wheel (the donut is a 15-inch spare). Some trimming is probably needed, but I want to know if it won't fit even with trimming?

Does anyone know the difference between the 1RF400-AC900 and the 1RF400-AC930 spare kits?

For background - I've read most of the threads on this, and I find my self second-guessing my original plans, so I thought I would ask the members here to see if I am missing anything.

I know the car came with an inflator kit, and I know the 175/70R14 wheel will fit in the spare well. I previously said that if I were going to buy a spare tire anyway, I would spend the extra on a full-size tire instead of a donut, but I am somewhat re-thinking that. As I see it, I have the following options:


  • Hyundai OEM Donut Kit - Cost $238.69 (originally $300) 1RF40-AC900 (Note that that p/n does not include the spare tire, but many sellers add the spare tire to the kit) - 2012 2016 Hyundai Accent 4 Door Spare Tire Kit Tire Mounted 1RF40 AC900 | eBay This is a turn-key kit and I am leaning toward going with this. Things I like: There is no "hidden cost". It is plug and play, air the tire up, bolt it down, and you are set. It is new and engineered by Hyundai to fit in the car and not rattle and fit securely and support the trunk floor. For how I used the car (commuter), it works. It has the drawback of a 50 MPH and 50 mile total limit on the spare tire, but I am probably okay with that. Except for my 1974 which had a full-size spare, all my later cars have had donuts and I've used one exactly ONCE - and that was when I was trying to use bald tires until my next paycheck and they didn't make it - basically, I see this like insurance - you don't want to use it and you probably won't need to, but you don't want to be without it either. I don't know what the -AC930 changes from the -AC900. Someone suggested that the foam was different, but that doesn't make much sense. It is also an Accent kit (Not an Elantra which takes a 5-lug wheel). I know some kits have a red painted spare and some have a black painted spare, maybe that is the difference.
  • Hyundai OEM Full-Size Spare - Cost $205-275 - maybe (likely) more. This is what I originally planned to go with and it makes sense, but the devil is in the details. I think it would be the best option if I routinely drove 300-mile trips in the car and wanted to know I could install the spare without delaying the trip and then repair the tire whenever I got around to it next week, but I don't do that. Price breakdown:

  • Jack and tools - $50-$150 - Three options:

  • Ebay - Occasionally, these will show up as an Elantra or Sonata Jack and case for around $50-60. I think the MD Elantra kit will work, not sure about the Sonata.

  • Kit - A local dealer sells the 1RF40-AC900 kit without the tire for $156. That is expensive, but could work if I might end up using the donut rim or wanted to sell it separately.

  • Individual - Cost is roughly $100 plus shipping - I sourced the parts from here: Hyundai Parts - Genuine OEM Hyundai Parts & Accessories Online - there might be other options. Not sure if these are the parts in the 1RF40-AC900, kit, but they are supposed to work on the Accent - I also received the actual part numbers in the kit from Bernardi Hyundai):
Case - 09149-3X000 - $9.19 (According to Bernardi Hyundai, the case in the kit is 09149-1R400 for $34.74 - not sure what the difference is)
Jack - 09110-3X000 - $70.88 (According to Bernardi Hyndai, the correct jack is 09110-1R050 for $62.17 and on national backorder until the end of August)
Bar (Jack Handle) - 09132-3B000 - $2.94 (Confirmed)
Lug Wrench - 09131-3B010 - $9.37 - (Confirmed)
Hold-Down Bolt - 62850-1R200 - $6.85 (According to Bernardi Hyundai, the correct hold-down bolt is 62850-1R300 for $6.68).

  • Rim - $70 A local tire shop sells a new either OEM or Repro wheel for $70. I can also find used OEM wheels with the TPMS sensor for $50 on E-bay, but I hate putting used parts in a brand new car. I think the OEM part number is 52910-1R005. OEM wheels are around $90 at the dealer and TPMS are around $30 at RockAuto.

  • Tire - $60 - but which size?

  • Mounting and Balance - $25 Estimate

  • Miscellaneous trunk floor bolster - not priced …
Unknowns:

  • Case - I'm not sure what the difference is between the $9.19 case and the $35 case. I can't get the $9 case locally. It isn't cost-effective (shipping) to order just the case by itself, but this would be helpful b/c if the case can't be made to fit in the OEM rim, then I would be better with just the donut or just an aftermarket solution.

  • Size - I plan to replace the stock tires with 185/70R14's when the OEM one's wear out - but I don't know if those will fit in the trunk. The smart move is to wait until I get new tires, see if the 185's will fit in the trunk and use the best of my 175's if it won't, but the Hankook's are supposed to last 70K miles and I don't want to wait that long without a spare.

  • Floor - Hard to tell what would need to be done to prop up the floor with this kit.
CONCLUSION

I think there are too many issues trying to get the Hyundai OEM full-size spare to work out. So it is either spending $240 for the donut spare which looks finished (it's only a spare and will likely never be used), or spending $175 for the Discount Tire/Harbor Freight kit and figuring out how to store it (it's only a spare and should never be seen). I'm leaning toward the donut spare.
 

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Tell me more about that - I'm confused but curious ...

Okay - I called them ...

$324 is way too much for that, IMHO, (even with 11% off) but they gave me some helpful info ...

First off, the tire size on there website is incorrect - it says it is a P175 15-inch tire which doesn't make sense as the Accent came with 14 or 16-inch tires. And it says you can't use it as a permanent tire, which doesn't make sense either.

I called them and they said it is a P175/70R14 tire. They also said the tool bag is a P/N 09149-34000 which is MSRP of $5 and OEM for a Genesis.

So if I go this route, I will probably go with:
Rim - $70 locally - might as well get the one that let's me use the OEM hubcaps. Not going to bother with TPMS.
Tire - Gets a bit odd here ... Discount has the Hankook 175/70R14 for $54 and $77.16 mounted and balanced (which matches the tires now, but is a bit small when I get the tires replaced) or a Barum 185/70R14 for $35 or $57.02 mounted and balanced. (Not a great tire, but it's only the spare). Need to see how the OEM tire fits in the trunk and go from there.
Jack - $21 - Harbor Freight
Bag and hold down - $11
Lug Wrench - $10 (need to get bag and then see what I can make fit in that).

Total - $189 for the P175 or $169 for the P185.

Not a bad deal for a full-size spare.
 

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I didn't spend any time cross checking things, so I apologize in advance.. but your case part number 09149-3X000 seems to be for the 11-13 Elantra, and if that is the case (no pun intended) then it's probably the same one I had bought and I can tell you that it definitely will not fit in a 14" wheel with any amount of trimming. By the time you cut it down enough to fit you'd have nothing left. I barely had anything left after I trimmed it to fit inside the factory 16" wheel that I kept to use as a full size spare.

 

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I'd just go to a wrecker and pick up a rim with a decent tire that came off an RB Accent. I bet you could get one for under $50.

Out of interest, the space saver spare that comes included with Canadian Accents is a T125/80-15
 

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A lot of people bought a Ford Escort donut, or from any 2000's Toyota. It has to be 4x100 bolt pattern 54.1mm center bore. That's what I intend to do.

I already have the Hyundai jack, tie down, etc. I bought those at the local dealer. I'm kind of nervous about using random things like a Harbor Freight jack. I would like those things to be secure, not flying around in a crash.
 

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We're getting there - and lots of good info so far.
@lost51 - any issues with a full-size spare from the added weight (i.e. major fuel economy drop, suspension bottoming out)?
@tenergy - Yes, I was considering a full-size spare case from the 13 Elantra. I'm surprised it needed trimming to fit a 16-inch wheel as I think the spare is a Temporary 15-inch wheel. I'm probably going to go with the Genesis bag style, though.

I'd just go to a wrecker and pick up a rim with a decent tire that came off an RB Accent. I bet you could get one for under $50.
Agreed - I've been checked used wheel/rim/hubcap shops - will call a few more today. Ideally, what I would like to find is a take-off from someone that put rims on a RB accent. That would have the TPMS, work with the hubcaps and be balanced already. The problem I'm finding is there aren't local yards with a lot of RB Accents or if you find wrecker online, they usually don't have the tire included, or if they do, with $40 or so shipping, it is cheaper to buy a new rim and tire. (I might not be looking at the right locations, though ...)

A lot of people bought a Ford Escort donut, or from any 2000's Toyota. It has to be 4x100 bolt pattern 54.1mm center bore. That's what I intend to do.
If I want the donut, I'd probably get the Hyundai kit for $240. The smart thing if I knew what I'd get on the trade would probably have been to yank the donut and jack from my 2002 Focus before I traded it on the Accent, but hindsight is 20-20.

I'd rather have the full-size spare now that there is a way to stow the jack and not have it look like I threw a bunch of parts in a blanket in the trunk.

I already have the Hyundai jack, tie down, etc. I bought those at the local dealer. I'm kind of nervous about using random things like a Harbor Freight jack. I would like those things to be secure, not flying around in a crash.
Not sure I see your point - if the jack flies out of the inside of the spare rim and through the trunk floor and the cargo liner and the rear seats, I don't think I'll still be alive after the accident to complain about it. And I don't see the HF jack more likely to do that than the Hyundai jack. I do worry a bit more about the HF jack collapsing or the car falling off it when I try to change the tire, but I've had that happen with factory jacks before - not sure it is worth the extra money to avoid the minimal risk ...

I might still go with the Hyundai jack, but the main reason would be that I am more sure of it fitting in the Genesis bag ...
 

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The entire full size kit only weights about 30 lbs. I think the additional weight to the rear actually helps to keep the car more stable. 30 lbs is not that much. Try putting a case of 30 16oz bottles of water in your trunk which would be about the same weight.

As far as gas mileage, I still get about 40-41mpg on the highway with mostly a 65mph speed limit.
 

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Not much luck checking with the wreckers. One had a wheel, but said the tires were removed before they bought it. So I'm basically left with:

Ideally - I would like to find someone putting rims on a car like mine and willing to sell the OEM 14-inch wheel and tire (and just one of them). Eliminates mounting and balancing also.

Local hub cap store is supposed to have a NEW Hyundai collision class repair rim for $70 but no TPMS.

Discount has the Unique wheel for $50, but no TPMS and can't use factory hubcaps.

E-bay has rims and TPMS for $50, but not new and might need to spray paint to cover rust spots.
 

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About to pull the trigger - some last questions ...

Brand New Out of Box Spare Tire Jack for Hyundai Kia 700kg 1500 Lbs | eBay - Any idea what this fits? I assume it will work with the Accent. I think I trust it more than a Harbor Freight jack.

Replacement for Jack 2011 2014 Hyundai Elantra Spare Tire Tool Bag Set Kit | eBay - This is repro, but it has the jack handle and lug wrench and comes with a storage bag, if the OEM bag doesn't work.

Not sure on the rim, but I might go with - 12 13 14 15 Hyundai Accent Wheel 14x5 1 2 Steel w TPMS 371760 | eBay - it's OEM Hyundai and comes with TPMS - a bit of a bummer that is was in an accident, but I doubt it was bent. If not, I'll get the new $70 rim locally and skip the TPMS.

I'll get the tool bag and the hold-down bolt locally.

The only other question is what tire to go with - i.e.:

Hankook 175/70R14 for $77 - which I am sure would fit in the trunk and matches what I have on the car now, but when the OEM tires wear out, I will go with 185/70R14, and it will be small.
Barum 185/70R14 for $57 - leaning toward this but not sure there is space in the trunk for this tire and the jack, etc.
General 185/70R14 for maybe $87 - which would exactly match the replacement tires, but it will be 3-4 years old or more by then.

Leaning towards the Barum.

What I will probably do is see how much room there is with the stock tire and jack in the trunk before I decide on the rim and tire size.

Does anyone have any opinions on the jack above?
 

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And, for a new wheel:

Alternative Steel Rim 14x5 5 4x100 X40720 | eBay

So, for ~$75, you have a full size spare tire kit (less the foam, but a piece of plywood or "chipboard" from Home Depot solves that, approx $14). Add a lug wrench and tire and it's all good.

I don't know about the 2012, but a fill-size tire fits in the 2009 Accent. They do the "Space Saver" in the US to reduce weight, thanks to CAFE standards. If it weren't for that, we might get full-size spares, too.
 

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Thanks Old's Cool - the devil is in the details on these things, though ...

The Amazon kit doesn't include the tire, though. I posted initially an E-bay link for the donut spare full kit with tire included for $240 shipped.

The $45 wheel is similar to the Unique Wheel that Discount Tire sells for $50 from the earlier thread. It would work, but it is a bit tight on the caliper clearance and doesn't fit the OEM hubcaps.

Reply 11 has the wheel options. I'm leaning toward a used wheel from E-bay - mainly b/c the hubcaps and TPMS should still work with it and it is $20 cheaper than an aftermarket Hyundai wheel.

Main question remaining is whether a 185 (not 175) /70R14 rim will fit in the turn.

Cost at this point:
$30 - E-bay Jack
$50 - E-bay Rim
~ $30 - Hyundai hold-down, bag, bar, and wrench
$57 Barum tire
$5-10 - OSB if required to fortify trunk pad.

Around $175-$180 for the whole enchilada ...
 

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I can't understand a car company making a spare tire an option.

Unless...and this brings us back to CAFE standards, they measure the EPA mileage on a car based with NO options. No spare=less weight=better EPA average.
 

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@az2008 - okay, I see where you were going with your comment now. The Hyundai jack with the foam casing is probably SLIGHTLY more secure in the case of a severe accident. However, that foam case works with the donut rim but won't work with the full-size 14-inch rim. @tenergy had to trim his a lot to work with a 16-inch full-size rim. Unfortunately, with a full-size rim, the best you can do is probably the bag that was linked earlier that is used on the Genesis.

Also - though, I have a sedan, not a hatchback. I think it would have to be a VERY serious accident for the jack to come out from inside the rim, through the floor panel of the trunk and the trunk liner and through the rear seats and injure anyone in the passenger compartment.

But the Harbor Freight jack would be no less safe and MAYBE a bit safer in that case ...
 

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I can't understand a car company making a spare tire an option.
First off - it wasn't an OPTION. The RB Accent and the MD Elantra came with NO spare. There was an Accessory Kit (slightly different) that came out later with the donut spare and jack and foam case - basically what they shipped in the Canadian cars.

I get it - I don't necessarily agree with it, but I get it.

Saves 30 lbs of weight so better fuel economy.

Gives you a convenient storage space under the trunk floor which is hidden.

In 12 years with my 2002 Focus, the spare never came out of the trunk.

They give you 5-years of roadside assistance. Most kids these days don't know how to check the oil or coolant, so if they have to call a tow truck to put the spare on or pump some goo into the tire, what's the difference.

I'm trying to look at the positive side of it - the car will fit a full-size spare. If I bought a Corolla, no way I would spend $250 to swap the donut for a full-size spare (if it would fit, it wouldn't in the Focus), but if I plan to buy a spare anyway and it is $250 for a donut and $200 for a full-size and either one fits in the trunk, I'll get the full-size and be happy.
 
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