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so I have been driving manual transmissions for quite a few years and have never noticed this before today.

with engine off, clutch pedal not pushed in meaning foot not on clutch, i can shift through all of the gears easily.

i have searched online and this seems normal as the trans speed and engine speed are matched- at zero rpm.

could you all go out and see if you can do the same?

engine off, not clutch action, try shifting through all the gears.

you might have to put in neutral first if in 1st before trying all of this

thanks!
 

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figured but never noticed that before!

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Been doing that for last 32yr maybe... sometimes things not line up, so you push clutch pedal to allow gear set and coupler to roll slightly and lock in gear...

Gear box have plenty of lash, you can play all day.

Reverse is normal unco-operative, as you need to move a gear into the gear set to make the box go backwards... so it will require that gear set may need to turn slightly to mesh the gears.
 

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Of course, it is normal. I usually push it into gear after I stopped the engine (and set the parking brake) without using the clutch.
 

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You can also shift the gears with no clutch while driving. Try it sometime. You just have to match revs perfectly, otherwise the synchros make bad noises.
 

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I've never tried that.

I think there's a lock or something when you have the throttle down.  Because once I bumped it when I was in 5th, and and it was stuck in there, like it was locked in since I didn't have the clutch open, and my foot was on the gas.
 

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QUOTE (Leprakong @ Oct 16 2010, 12:20 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=363867
I've never tried that.

I think there's a lock or something when you have the throttle down.  Because once I bumped it when I was in 5th, and and it was stuck in there, like it was locked in since I didn't have the clutch open, and my foot was on the gas.
It's not locked. There's quite a bit of pressure on the gears when you load them. You'll have a hard time pulling a car out of gear without the clutch and with the throttle down. It can be done but modern transmissions were designed to be used with the clutch, going in or out. If for some reason your clutch fails, you can shift without it but you have to rev match.
 
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