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Sooo confused ...
I just purchased a 2009 Genesis sedan and it has only 1 fob and emergency key.
I want to purchase another and not pay the dealer $300 plus $70 programming (plus key blank & cutting a new key $100).
Looking online (primarily ebay) I see lots of possibilities but have also heard lots of remotes not working.
How can I feel comfortable that I am getting the right fob? Base it completely on the FCC ID? or is there a part number that I must match up?

Most of the locksmiths around me no longer deal with the automotive remotes/keys.

The emergency key seems to be less of an issue as you got to buy a blank and find someone to cut it.

Anyone have other sources?
 

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Summary of my remote key fob adventure.
Hopefully this will be helpful to someone, as it took me several weeks to wade thru all the information.

My need:
2009 Hyundai Genesis sedan came with just one remote/key fob that I purchased from a private owner.
Average Hyundai dealer pricing around my area:
  • Remote 95440-3M100 $300
  • Programming $80
  • Emergency key blank 81999-3M020 and cutting: $100.
Spoiler: I found a remote with key blank for $100, programming for $60, Key cutting for $25.

Remote fob:
Crazy info and pricing abound.
Some say the FCC ID has to match (SY5BH4FNA04), others say the part number, no consistent rules to follow.
Ebay had quite a few options and many of the sellers were quite responsive to my questions. Most had good return polices but if the device didn't program, I was out that programming fee and still had to return the fob. Watch out for 'restocking fees'.
From many vendors, the existing remote I had was running about $200+. I have no idea why mine was so expensive.

Ebay Sellers (and they had their own websites) carkeysfast (www.CarKeysFast.Com) and mykeyless-1 (https://ikeyless.com/) stood behind a 'compatible' fob. The fully refurbished Hyundai Part #95440-3M220 (hard plastic and has an LED) FCC ID# SY5HMFNA04.
I took a chance and ordered (recommend calling and not just buy off their site as the pricing was better via phone) from ikeyless.com. For under $100, came with a blade key blank, 1 year warranty, and the new remote came within 2 days.

Just as an aside, I was ready to order from Original Keyless as they had my exact part number and FCC ID for $75. However their return policy is horrendous (3 days to notify and return back to them in 14 days from when they shipped it to you) and 25% restocking fee. They did respond to emails quickly but seemed to be hard headed. If you used a dealer to program and it failed to program, they would not honor the return. I searched for reviews on originalkeyless.com and lots of Better Business issues. BBB Concerned about Online Keyless Remote Company - BBB News Center.

I only found 2 auto locksmiths (www.maryonslock.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/AccessPlusLocksmiths) within 100 miles that would even quote me a price for a remote and programming and their costs were getting close to the dealer fees.


Programming
I have a 6 Hyundais in the family and came across this product HiCOM: Hyundai/Kia professional diagnostic scantool that says it can do smart key programming just the like Hyunda GDS (Global Diagnostic System). You just need to get the immobilizer code. Getting the immobilizer code was easy. Go to the dealer, show them registration and ID and get the 6 digit pin. The obdtester runs ~$400 and was very interesting package. I could read alot more data than just my handheld OBD. Alas, it could not communicate with my SMART ECU for key programming and despite online sessions with the vendor SECONS, we had no luck for a week. I already had the remote fob and was running out of time to return it.
I opted to go to a dealer Ourisman Hyundai of Bowie | Hyundai Dealer | Baltimore | DC that had the best price for programming $60 and if the remote failed to programmed, they would not charge me a second time for programming when I had a replacement fob sent from the vendor.

Key cutting
Most of the Hyundai dealers seem to send out the keys to get them cut in NJ as they don't have a machine to cut the 'laser' key. Only one Hyundai dealer had a machine to cut the key Fitzgerald Auto Malls New and Used Car Dealership Maryland - Pennsylvania - Florida - Washington DC - Virginia for $65. In my area, nearly all of the locksmiths did not have a 'sidewinder' key cutting machine to cut high security keys. After many phone calls, I stumbled upon Baldino's Lock and Key Baldino's Lock and Key that would cut it for $25.
 

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Very informational. Thank you. I just bought a used 2012 Genesis and also received one key fob. My local dealer wants over $500.00 total for a new one. What a joke.

I will follow up on your recommendations. Thanks again.
 

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I just bought a used 2012 Genesis and also received one key fob.
You should be beating up the seller for the other key/FOB.

I didn't read all of the above detailed post but the short answer is:

See a locksmith or two first about a replacement.
They often can fix you up for half the dealer cost or less.
 

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Very informational. Thank you. I just bought a used 2012 Genesis and also received one key fob. My local dealer wants over $500.00 total for a new one. What a joke.

I will follow up on your recommendations. Thanks again.
Why would the dealer only have one key fob? That's ridiculous. I wouldn't have closed the deal until he produced both sets of keys. With a missing fob, someone else could get in your car to steal it.

Someone has some 'splaining to do if you ask me.
 

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All Hyundai come with 2 remote when received off transporter from HMA to dealer..

That be 2 regualr remote for key start, or 2 Smartkey for push button start/push button door unlock on exterior handle..

FCC ID means nothing. Part carry an actual part number, then when programmed to car, module reads info from Smartkey and writes VIN to the Smartkey.. a used Smartkey cannot be programmed to different car. 2 Smart key have to be entered at same sitting, cannot do 1 today, and come back with 1 tomorrow.. as soon as you enter program mode, memory wiped clean in the module.
 

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Can you provide specific link to exact model ? Your link is generic

Most anything from Hyundai in the USA product line up requires plug in of GDS and going into the code saving option, be it RKE or Smartkey..
 

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I just bought a 2015 Genesis from Ourisman in MD.

They wouldn't even offer to sell me a spare fob (at $400) unless I swore on a bible that I lost one of the two fobs that came with the new car.
 

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Yeah, I just bought a used 2011 Genesis Sedan. Spent over 90 minutes at the dealership to have them tell me my spare that I bought of Amazon "will not take programming". They still charged me $48....
 

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Used cars come with whatever the original owner supplies

All Hyundai come with 2 remote when received off transporter from HMA to dealer..

That be 2 regualr remote for key start, or 2 Smartkey for push button start/push button door unlock on exterior handle..
Yes, but they said they bought the vehicle used. Who knows what the previous owner did with their second key. Probably lost it at some point so only gave one with their trade. My Sonata Hybrid was written off and towed away. Probably to be bought by some body shop and rebuilt to be resold. I still have one of the keys. So, whoever buys the car will only get one unless the dealer selling it supplies a replacement. And we all know that ain't gonna happen unless they are making a huge profit on the sale.
 

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Sooo confused ...
I just purchased a 2009 Genesis sedan and it has only 1 fob and emergency key.
I want to purchase another and not pay the dealer $300 plus $70 programming (plus key blank & cutting a new key $100).
Looking online (primarily ebay) I see lots of possibilities but have also heard lots of remotes not working.
How can I feel comfortable that I am getting the right fob? Base it completely on the FCC ID? or is there a part number that I must match up?

Most of the locksmiths around me no longer deal with the automotive remotes/keys.

The emergency key seems to be less of an issue as you got to buy a blank and find someone to cut it.

Anyone have other sources?
i just purchased a 201`3 hyundai sedan & have the same problem, cost too high for second key fob.
 

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There is an interesting product on Indiegogo that replaces the keyfob with a smartphone or smartwatch.
Much cheaper than getting an additional keyfob from the dealership.
A lot of Hyundai and Kia models are compatible and the 1st gen Genesis is one of them.
Search for Beepable on Indiegogo.
 

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For those of us in the UK, I would definitely advocate the locksmith method too. I had an empty fob and ended up taking it to islington locksmith who programmed it there and then for £30. I know there's kit you can buy to do it yourself, but not sure I could be bothered for only one key. Hope this helps anyone else, especially in the London area!
 
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