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I just changed my oil and filter for first time and noticed 2 rubber o-rings that I expected to see and then saw the metal washer. Does that actually go anywhere, because I couldn't find it anywhere in the filter housing.

Also, how many quarts is the fill? Owner manual is a bit vague:

Quantity (US. QTS) (lmp.qts, liter)
Gasoline 3.3L : 5.49 (4.57, 5.2)

Is that 5.49 or 4.57?
 

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The aluminum washer is for the oil drian plug on the oil pan,, they will mash out real thin beyound head of plug, and also get formed up into the threads is used repeatedly over time,,, I hate trying to get mashed drain gaskets of the plugs.

As to the oil capacity, I been averaging 6qt per 3.3 oil change... unscrew the black cap to vent the canister, then proceed to drain the oil.

When you lift the cap, come straight up, and stay that way till you hit the catch pan, then tip it, as oil will dump out of the cap. You'll figure it if you spill.. replace the o-rings as seen.

BE SURE you fully install the cap all the way down so flange meets the top of the cansiter.

Pour 5 1/2 qt in, start engine for 20 seconds, shut off,,,, walk the long way around vehicle, check oil, top off the oil to FULL mark on dipstick.
 

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QUOTE (pocopine @ May 15 2010, 08:58 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=323282
I just changed my oil and filter for first time and noticed 2 rubber o-rings that I expected to see and then saw the metal washer. Does that actually go anywhere, because I couldn't find it anywhere in the filter housing.
The metal washer is the aluminum crush washer that you replace on the drain plug.

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Also, how many quarts is the fill? Owner manual is a bit vague:

Quantity (US. QTS) (lmp.qts, liter)
Gasoline 3.3L : 5.49 (4.57, 5.2)

Is that 5.49 or 4.57?
Do you sing "god bless America" or "god save the queen"? If the former, use 5.5 US quarts (I pour in the full 6 quarts on my 3.3). If the later, then use 4.6 imperial quarts.
 

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QUOTE (ken99 @ May 15 2010, 11:12 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=323285
Do you sing "god bless America" or "god save the queen"? If the former, use 5.5 US quarts (I pour in the full 6 quarts on my 3.3). If the later, then use 4.6 imperial quarts.

I thought it was "The Star Spangled Banner" or "Oh Canada" :banana:
 

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I'm a Start Spangled Banner kind of guy - 5.5 qts. Those capacities aren't well defined with their syntax, that's why I asked.

Guess I'll replace the crush washer next time - looked fine when I changed it.

Thanks for the replies.
 

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Here a ring that been use tooooooooo many times, see how it has mashed out around the flange of the plug, and migrated up into the threads...
 

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I only use 120 ft/lbs of torque when I put the oil bolt back in :blink:
 

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holy torque batman, that crush washer looks like it was put on by the hulk. Wouldn't surprise me one bit the dealer did that with a power drill instead of by hand with a wrench. I've never seen one that buggered up and deformed. Dealer recommends oil crush washer replaced everytime probably because, and I have experienced it with toyota dealers 1st hand, their oilchange flunkies crank the drain plug on with a power tool or use their muscles way too much cranking it on too tight. My former toyota I had dealer do first oil change for free ONLY the first time. The 2nd time I did it myself and the oil drain plug crush washer was permanently embedded into the oil pan when I unscrewed the drain plug it stuck on and wouldn't come off. I had to take a fine metal screwdriver and chip it off very hard to do - fricking idiots. Personally, I let my crush washer go every 2-4 oil changes since I don't use monster cranking power on the drain plug and it will last just fine, but for sure replace every 3-5 oil changes just to be safe. My .02 cents.
 

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QUOTE (sbr711 @ May 17 2010, 10:26 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=323641
Here a ring that been use tooooooooo many times, see how it has mashed out around the flange of the plug, and migrated up into the threads...
I've seen several like that. In fact, my Santa Fe's crush washer was JUST like that when I bought it used. The aluminum had migrated up the threads so badly I had a heck of a time getting the plug out! I feared the pan was stripped. I cleaned everything up real good and thankfully the threads are all fine. The blue Hyundai replacement filters I have all come with a new washer taped to the box.
 

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My poor old Toyota with 341,000 still has the original drain plug.. I have a stock of Toyota gaskets, and drain plug gets 35 lb-ft of torque with my 3/8 torque wrench and 14 socket...

As to the Hyundai plug,, those serviced by delaer usuall do not get squished like that, it almost always come from those that visit the jippy places and keep using the old gasket over and over.. they quite fun to get off, side cutter or sharp chisel works best.
 

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My dealer in GA gave up using the solid aluminum washers (they still come in the box though) and recommend using the "crush style" washers like you see on the base of spark plugs. I've been using them for the last 5 or 6 oil changes. Easy to replace and they never seem to leak at all. They also give you one of those for free with a filter purchase.
 
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