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I'm pretty curious what other people around here may think about installing an oil catch can. Considering installing one on my car. Have the 1.6 engine in my car.

Has anyone else installed one yet? If so, where was it mounted? Just a quick glance looks like it might be a little tricky finding a good spot install it.
 

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Use google/youtube to see if anyone has already done one

I don't know your engine, but if it's a direct injection, then a catch can, can be a good decision
 

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I'm pretty curious what other people around here may think about installing an oil catch can. Considering installing one on my car. Have the 1.6 engine in my car.

Has anyone else installed one yet? If so, where was it mounted? Just a quick glance looks like it might be a little tricky finding a good spot install it.
Here is a detailed install video of the catch cans on 1.6 GDI.



I've purchased the dual catch cans few days ago and will be installing these on my vehicle as soon as it arrives. I'll let you know how it goes but the instruction video is very easy to follow and shows you exactly where to mount it.
 

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I appreciate the feedback from both of you.

Mizeab1e would you be able to post some pictures after the install? Curious how you might install it.

Would they in anyway void the factory warranty after being installed?
 

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I appreciate the feedback from both of you.

Mizeab1e would you be able to post some pictures after the install? Curious how you might install it.

Would they in anyway void the factory warranty after being installed?
You can count on it Geo. I’ll post detailed pictures of the install process and the end result as soon as it arrives.

As for the warranty, it depends on the dealership. Technically, any modifications done to the vehicle will potencially void the warranty for that specific area, but there are ways you can protect yourself from this. In my case, I’ve established a good relationship with my dealership and have notified them in advance of all the modifications I’m making to the vehicle. If I come across any serious malfunction, my dealership is willing to honor the warranty as long as I re-install the related stock parts before bringing it in for service. End of the day, the dealership have all the incentives to honor the warranty for their profit, so keep all your stock parts and be ready to swap it back when needed.

At the very least, you should contact your dealership and ask what they are willing to do for a loyal customer, then plan accordingly. If you do, please let me know what they say, I’d be curious to find out how various dealership handles the warranty/modification issue.
 

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Video is impressive but the whole process is not that suitable for DIY as you HAVE to know what are you doing... I would think twice if I am to do that myself.

In my case, I’ve established a good relationship with my dealership and have notified them in advance of all the modifications I’m making to the vehicle. If I come across any serious malfunction, my dealership is willing to honor the warranty as long as I re-install the related stock parts before bringing it in for service.
Why would you tell anything to your dealership if you are to put everything in place back in case your mod fails? How would they know if you did add something if you bring car in the same state you received it on day one?
Even if you have good relationship with dealership, I would present them (service manager, etc.) all parts and procedure what I am going to do, get their blessing (in writing) and then do the mod.
No matter how 'good relationship' you have, in a matter of days crew might change, manager might leave, etc. and you will be met with 'dumb looks' and denial of service.

Anyhow, please post pictures of (each) step you do when installing catch can into GT Sport.
 

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Valid concerns, but it works just fine for me so far and not worried one bit. Perhaps our definition of ‘good relationship’ differs but i guess it just comes down to one’s people skills. I have a manager, senior sales rep, and two senior vehicle care specialists on speed dial and all I have to do is give one of them a call to set up an appointment before even setting my foot in the dealership.

As for the OCC, looks pretty straight forward to me. No modifications required and all that is needed is to reroute the hoses to the OCC which you bolt into an existing hole. So I won’t worry about that either.
 

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I was driving earlier so couldn’t give an adequate answer to all your questions but here it is.

Can I just not tell the dealership anything and hope they won’t notice anything odd when I need to bring the vehicle in for a major issue? Of course. However, that’s a shitty way of doing things when you can be honest with them, knowing they got your back. I don’t believe in resorting to deception when there are alternatives, and no one likes to be bullshitted. My whole life is about building relationships and if you can’t build a solid relationship with those you are purchasing a life changing product from, perhaps you should look elsewhere.

As for getting their blessing so you won’t have to put the stock parts back in, of course that’ll be even better. However, you are failing to account for the warranty process the dealership must go through if it is required, they need to send Hyundai detailed reports and photos of the effected areas. If Hyundai see that you do not have a stock parts installed, they will most likely deny it even though the dealership gave you their ‘blessing’. End of the day, you will have to put the stock parts back in if you want warranty coverage.

To boil it down, talk to them and don’t bullshit them. See what they are willing to do for you and if you don’t like their answer, go elsewhere. As far as I’m concerned, they are just as excited and enthusiastic about the modifications I’m making to the vehicle, so it behooves you to treat them like you would yourself and discuss these things first.

Or, keep staying too afraid of making awesome modifications to an awesome car for warranty reasons, or hope you can deceive them. I personally won’t do neither if I can help it.
 

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I have had one on a few cars, have two on my Gen coupe turbo. Some cars need them some don't.
 

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I have had one on a few cars, have two on my Gen coupe turbo. Some cars need them some don't.
How often do you drain it? I've seen a video of OCC being drained after only 300 miles and it was shocking how much oil was comes out of the breather can. Definitely something I do not want re-circulating into my system.
 

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I drain it when I change the oil or 5k miles 4 months or so. I get about a cup out of the PCV side and nothing to a few drops out of the turbo side.

So much depends on climate, how you drive and condition of the motor.
 

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I drain it when I change the oil or 5k miles 4 months or so. I get about a cup out of the PCV side and nothing to a few drops out of the turbo side.

So mach depends on climate, how you drive and condition of the motor.
Good to know, thanks for sharing.

I found the video I mentioned earlier. It seems they got the exact opposite results from you, very little from PCV and a LOT from breather side which is the hose that normally gets recirculated right back into the intake. Keep in mind this was only after 250 miles, so unless something was malfunctioning, I can't help but scratch my head why this is acceptable in the industry.

 

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No matter what the engine the intake side should see little oil. especially the 3.8L whichis NA. Only because the turbo PCV valve, which is a check valve, closes during boost will there be more oil on that side as the pressure that builds up from blowby has to go somewhere.

If there is any on the V6 then that is coming from bad, coked up rings on our car or any NA engine. as the PCV should be venting the blowby at all times.
 

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Catch can might reduce IV deposits, but not eliminate.
Some exhaust gas flows past the intake valve when it first opens near TDC.
More so when there's intake manifold vacuum, and cam timing set for intentional EGR.
This can deposit on the intake valve the same way that separate EGR systems can get clogged with deposits.


https://www.sae.org/publications/technical-papers/content/2016-01-2252/preview/
 

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