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Just traded my AMAZING 2011 Genesis sedan 4.6L, 385 horses for a '16 HSH LTD Ultimate. The car was there for a long time, because who'd wanna pay so much for a used Hyundai, so got a (relatively) good deal on it.

Obviously, 2nd owner, I'm left with just the 5/60 warranty. I'm considering adding the platinum HPP. Can anyone recommend a finance manager that won't charge an arm and a leg? If too public, please PM me...

Also since being on the lot for that long, the Tire Mobility Kit and the nav SD card were stolen (probably already sold on eBay). I didn't even know they were missing till I started perusing the owners manual, I already ordered the Kit off ebay, $40, but I don't know which of the hundreds software SDs offered online, is the right one. If anyone can provide me with the part#, it would save me from paying the stealer $220+tax...

Also, what is the big sensor(?) attached to the windshield, behind the mirror?

Thanks!

 

[NXR71]

Your "best" bet is may be to bite the bullet and get the latest map update from Map-n-Soft, Hyundai's map company: MnSoft | Hyundai & Kia Map Update or via 2016 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Map Update-121S4B - Map Updates.

They charge an extra $50 for the SD Card so $219 but you'll have the latest map version as well as the "official" SD Card. That may be what the dealer is wanting to sell you anyway. Or buy one from another vendor for $10 or $20 and see what happens.

As far as I know it's just a standard 16 GB SD Card. If you buy it yourself make sure you get the fastest one. It's probably at least a UHS Speed Class 10 on the one supplied with the car but I've never looked at it that closely.

Do you know which version of the maps you have? Do you have the Apple Car Play/Android Auto features? If so, you have at least v10.5. I'm in NE Ohio and that version is still pretty accurate for me. If you do NOT have those features available to select, you can download that update fro free after you register on hyundai.com and in that case I'd buy a card from Best Buy, download it to the card and see if the car accepts it. It's probably just FAT32 formatted.

That sensor by the rear view mirror is the camera for the Lane Departure Warning system. It's only active above about 43 MPH but works well. It will falsely warn if the car is on a slight uphill incline and the sun is directly in front of you and low on the horizon, like in the morning. But it's only when the sun is directly in line with the camera.

I think I paid about $1,400 for the 10 year, 120K (or so) mile warranty when I bought the car. Note that the main hybrid battery is warrantied for 10 years for any owner but is warrantied for life for the original owner. The car is just over two years old, 34K miles, and pretty much zero problems. There was one mandatory service required for the water pump wiring and that's it.

I love this car but since I came from a 1999 Accord it's easy to impress me.

One thing i like is the XM Radio because it records about 45 minutes of your six favorite channels. That means you can jump between stations and get away from the too-talkative DJ's. I usually listen to my second-favorite station for about ten minutes initially and then jump to my favorite one and rewind it to the beginning. That lets me skip past their yapping and just listen to the songs and also lets me skip the songs I do not care for. (I set it to the second-favorite one when I turn the car off).

 

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NXR71, Thanks for the wealth of info. It's so nice when someone actually takes the time to write such a detailed response. Previously, on GenesisOwners.com, it was the same. Is it Hyundai that makes people so nice?!

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"Do you know which version of the maps you have? Do you have the Apple Car Play/Android Auto features? If so, you have at least v10.5. I'm in NE Ohio and that version is still pretty accurate for me. If you do NOT have those features available to select, you can download that update fro free after you register on hyundai.com and in that case I'd buy a card from Best Buy, download it to the card and see if the car accepts it. It's probably just FAT32 formatted."

I do have Apple Car Play/Android Auto, but when checked on MnSoft, it says v12... (I think).
When you say download, do you mean the map or those two apps?

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by this lady. I have a feeling it's roomier than the Genny, hip room front & rear higher and mostly, more space in the trunk (excluding the folding seats. But hey, I'm doing about 38 mpg in the city, while 12-13 previously...

Warranty, did you buy your car new or used?
Can you PM me the dealership/finance guy name?

Thank,

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[MButkus]

I would get the card and the map from MnSoft.. That way if you have any problem, they will help you. This seems to be the thing, 2nd owners not having the map card. You can use Apple Car Play or Auto Android. I don't like either and on long trip I use both the GPS and WAZE. WAZE is free traffic and finding stuff. The GPS is pretty good, 8" screen for directions, just follow the blue line......
The thing by the mirror is the smart headlights, maybe the LDS too. I turned that LDS off after a week. In the country we drive in the center a lot due to deer, so it was always going off. If you haven't used the high beams, when you turn on the high beams it takes 2 seconds to turn on. This is if the Smart High Beams is turned on by the center control (lots of options). One option you cannot turn off by the center control, seems to be is the "welcome sound".
If you turn on the high beams with the "smart" on, you press forward once, after 2 seconds they turn on. Then if the sensor seen headlights or tail lights it turns off the high beams. If the Smart high beams do not see headlight or tail lights, they turn on the high beams again. There is suppose to be a (S) by the headlights stating you turned on the high beams, nope. Another item in the manual that does not appear on the dash. They work pretty good, but I live out in the country. Other problem is the smart high beams only work above 26mph. You can force the high beams on, press forward twice, fast. They stay on until you click them back. Smart high beams don't work if you turn on your headlights, they have to be on AUTO to work correctly.
Depending on how you drive, there is no spare tire nor spare tire area. The trunk bottom is now the hybrid battery. I bought a spare donut and jack to put in my trunk, way in back. I drive many miles from home. The little 12V in the trunk should last 6-7 years. There is a cheaper replacement you can order from Auto Zone, they do not keep it in stock. Dealers want $450 for a replacement. If you replace the battery, or have a dead 12V you need to reset a lot of stuff (locks, windows, sun roof) all that is in the book. If the 12V is dead, you cannot start the car. Just jump the 12v to get the computer to run and start the car.

I get about 44-47 mpg, depending on the trips. Long trips give you 46 mpg if you drive for mileage and don't accelerate past 40% power. You also have Smart Cruise, that can be turned on/off at the dash. There is also a setting for acceleration in the center dash control. I have it set for LOW. If not MEDIUM will accelerate it to 80% with the cruise and HIGH is full throttle. So if you have cruise on, and they are only going 60 mph and yours is set to 65 mph and the car in front moves. If your accelerate is on HIGH the car will throttle at full and move you up a few car lengths.

 

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MBuktus,

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"There is also a setting for acceleration in the center dash control. I have it set for LOW. If not MEDIUM will accelerate it to 80% with the cruise and HIGH is full throttle."

Where is this setting?

 

[MButkus]

It's in the center dash settings, you need the book. There are like 60 setting on this car.

One of the settings refers to the Adaptive Cruise Control response.

"The sensitivity of vehicle speed when following the front vehicle to maintain the set distance can be adjusted. Go to the User Settings Mode (Driving Assist) and select SCC (Smart Cruise Control). You may select one of the three stages you prefer."

Normal gave me the responses you see. Changing it to Slow made it cap out at 40% almost all the time. It's a much smoother change now for me.

 

[MButkus]

I adore my Smart Cruise... If you can search Smart Cruise Control on this forum I gave a long writing about the "quirks" it has especially when in the slow lane and someone goes off on a ramp ! ! ! Something you need to be warned about. I drove my wife's 2014 SFS on a long trip yesterday and I was always hitting the brakes with the cruise on as I crept up to the next car.

 

[NXR71]

Agree with the comments by MButkus. I did not know the Smart Headlights used that camera but it makes sense since it's up high. I have my adaptive cruise in Low as well and it's a much smoother ride.

I bought the car new and the finance guy is long gone. He recommended the extended warranty due to the abundance of electronics, said the 8" display was very expensive out of warranty. I had my doubts since all of those cars were still in warranty but maybe they had a price list for people who broke it accidentally. I already planned on getting it to keep my cash outlays more stable so his reasons didn't influence me one way or the other. FWIW, I have a friend with a 2011 hybrid and needed a software upgrade and because he waited until it was past 50K miles he had to shell out $165 for it.

The upgrade to add Apple CarPlay/Android Auto is free from Hyundai and included the maps v10.5 upgrade. I had to do it to my car and it sounds like the dealer or previous owner did it on yours and gave you the v12 upgrade as well. You're good for years probably unless you have a very specific need (such as a new interchange in your area).

I keep my old Garmin in the car in case I need updated maps because their quarterly map upgrades are free.

 

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NXR71, Thanks for the PM. Tried responding, but I'm mot yet on a "qualifying" rank on this site and hence, can't yet send PMs...

As I said, I purchased the car pretty late that day, after 5 hours of driving. Obviously all guards where pretty low. I got the car used!

The car's SD card was stolen. I found it's gone a day after I bought the car. There are hundreds of such card on eBay. All I'm trying to do is to find the part # that's on the card, to basically eliminate surprises... I went to Hyundai's "SD card matrix", checked my s/w version (ST.LFHEV.USA.E512.160627) and it's not there at all... I need the car navigation for those rare, yet annoying cases, where the phone's reception is so bad, yet the car, as long as it's under the sky, gets full reception! All I need is the part #, which the local dealer refuses to "disclose"...

MBuktus and NXR71, thanks so much for the driving tips. I tried it yesterday and it was great. I couldn't replicate the 53mpg, a North CA guy was showing on that same car on YouTube (Video # FHz093zBqRI).

Again, extending out a request to all members: Can anyone with a s/w version ST.LFHEV.USA.E512.160627 (SYSTEM INFO> S/W VER.), look at the SD card and post/PM the part#?

Has anyone managed to find a PDF version of the 2016 Owners Manual?

Thanks,
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[NXR71]

I did find this PDF: https://www.hyundaiusa.com/myhyundaicontent/Data/teamsite/doc/glovebox-manuals/2016_Sonata/2016_Hyundai_Sonata_BL_Nav_Multimedia.pdf

Excerpts:

• The SD Card is formatted to include only Map and new system update files.
• The SD Card cannot be used to save and play Music.
• Do not add, delete, or format files within the SD Card.
• Please use only the SD card that was included with the vehicle purchase.
• The use of an uncertified SD card may result in damage to the system due to heat related deformation.
• Product malfunctions caused by the use of an uncertified cards shall not be covered within the product warranty.

Apparently SanDisk has "automotive" cards so it may be one of those: https://www.sandisk.com/oem-design/automotive/sd-cards

That may be why they get $50 for the card from their map update company.

 

[MButkus]

My card 96554-E6201 STD 4.X usa 16Gb

You pay $50 for the card and labor, someone has to install the data on the card. Plus it's a heat resistance high quality card. Not one of those $4 specials.

https://w w w.ebay.com/itm/2016-2017-Hyundai-Sonata-HYBRID-Navigation-SD-CARD-MAP-DATA-Hyundai-96554-E6201-/222547772022 for $145 ! !

https://w w w.ebay.com/p/2016-Hyundai-Sonata-Hybrid-GPS-Navigation-SD-Card-Data-U-s-Canada-Map-100-OEM/2092721502 $129

http://w w w.mapnsoft.com/hyundai/sdmatrix/

I updated my card to V11 via the download method.

 

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MButkus, I bow!
Thanks so much!
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