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So here I am today with an issue and looking for advice.

I am at 52,500 miles on a 2016 Hyundai Sonata SE.

Oil and filter last changed at 47k miles.

I drove the car for about 70 miles over about 4 hours this morning. I parked the car and shut it off for about 10 minutes. Started it and it t turned over but struggled and then shut off. Started again and it turned over normally.

Shut it off again and went for the wet dipstick. There was oil on it up to "F" but it looked like spatter.

Went to dip again after drying with napkin and came up bone dry.

I immediately got to a store and put some oil into it. Some smoke out of the engine when I went to add oil but it was wafting smoke not full on smoke, kind of like a small cigarette burning.

Added oil and she started right up, never got a check engine light throughout.

Running Purolator 5w 20 Synthetic Oil and extended life Purolator Filter (one off deal for these two usually running Mobil 1 Synthetic 5w 20 and Mobil 1 filter)




Just wondering where I am with this issue and what actions I should take.

I am going to the service station for a proper oil change soon but wanted to get feedback here first.

Thoughts appreciated.
 

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how much oil did you add? where was it on the dip stick when you were done?

That is a lot of oil burn, if you aren't leaking somewhere.

Where did you have the oil changed last? and when was the last time you checked the level?
 

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Last changed at my secondary mechanic near my home, watched them do it.

Checked the dip about a month after the change. Its been about 4 months since change, 3 since check. (I should have been more prudent with the checks I see now)

I added three quarts of some garbage at the convenience store just to get home which was an 8 mile drive, reading just above low on a dry dipstick.

Worried about possible damage and any things to do to "head off" anything coming.

The wafting smoke and engine shut off concerns me.

Going to the mechanic for a change in about 1 hour. Probably to the service center to see about pump etc. I am going to put some ramps down and look just to see for myself before I take it anywhere.

What sucks is I had a note to change the oil once the weather turned and I had an off day which would have been likely tomorrow or Monday. ugh
 

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Change every 5000 mile if drive include fair amount of highway,, sooner if city car,, not seasonal..

Check oil every other load of fuel.. nothing change about that part in last 60yr of driving,, used to be every load of fuel we check oil, or at least first thing Saturday

Get some fresh clean oil in it and drive,, as long as it not cluck or knock,, should be fine, with knowledge that there was some degree of prior neglect

I am 5000 mile roughly 8-10 week, my drive is majority interstate back and forth, so I have plenty of hot run time at speed
 
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Thanks for responses.

Took it to my mech and got the oil changed. He asked if it threw a light and I said no and he did not seem to worry beyond that but did chastise me about getting more frequent changes.

So will be checking the dipstick every 2nd fill from now on.

Still angry at myself for having this happen at all...
 

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might be a good idea to start monitoring to see if it continues consuming so you have an idea what rate i.e. xx quarts/1000 miles.
 

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This is disturbing to read.If your mechanic filled the engine correctly and there is nothing leaking a new car with 52K with those oci's should not be consuming anywhere near that amount of oil. Your car sucked that oil like a porn star in heat!I hope you will never touch that brand again and I hope your engine is ok!Good luck and keep the forum posted.What is your driving style like and where is most of your driving?
 

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Skip the 5w20 and use 5w30

Check oil level and top off weekly or at EVERY fuel fill up.

Damage is done. Whether you'll see the end results of a low oil run or not depends on how much damage occurred during low oil level running, and whether you keep the vehicle long enough.

"threw a light" is meaningless. Once that light is on, you trashed your engine. That is why they are called idiot lights. You have to be one to wait that long.
 

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It is unnerving that the car can get low on oil so suddenly. Damage is done, or none at all - almost impossible to gauge. Just drive the car and enjoy it.

As my car Sonata gets older, I just drive it a little harder and throw it around corners a little more. Life's little pleasures! No use babying it hoping it does not break. Check the oil every alternate fuel fill up. I lose half a quart between my 4K oil changes.
 

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I guess I’m old school! I check all fluids and tire pressure every Saturday morning and spare tire once a month.
 

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I guess I’m old school! I check all fluids and tire pressure every Saturday morning and spare tire once a month.
We have the same routine. Better to be sure than sorry.
 

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I guess I’m old school! I check all fluids and tire pressure every Saturday morning and spare tire once a month.
I guess I’m old school! I check all fluids and tire pressure every Saturday morning and spare tire once a month.
No wonder, you’re a flyboy. Nothing good come out of an airplane caging be it dirty drawers or an asphalt facial in a fireball. Now I don’t do my stuff all that often but you can bet I watch my Sonata like a hawk as well as listen for the first sign of a loose valve tick. It’s plain to see the < 2012 issue was never solved and the engines on these cars absolutely can’t be trusted like a Honda or Toyota. That’s extremely obvious. I learned with our 2015 Elantra that whatever is going on probably won’t show up as a true rod knock until just before it cages. What you will hear if you are looking for it is the small stuff wearing rapidly out due to some degree of oil starvation. Much more an innocent light tick than the dreaded hollow tree hit with a big stick sort of knocking that comes to mind.
I see looking at the circumstances of complaints a very common theme. Often engine caging or idiot lights and on the run stall......then finding the car dreadfully low on oil and the damage already done. This from people who swear they checked the Oil recently. They can’t all be lying and never change the oil. So with that in mind just check the oil every week or so quick. Add as needed and write down a small add Oil log on a card and keep in the car so you can actually see if something changes. As for extended Oil changes I say NO WAY, not with these cars anyways and use OEM filters.
To the OP, burning, losing, disappearing oil is NOT normal in spite of the dogma. You also can burn a quart a week and have beautiful brown
gray spark plug electrodes and show only the slightest puff on startup only and run like a champ. Been there done that with a Honda 89 CRX. Mine was a warped engine deck. 180 PSI compression burned the oil completely away with 1qt / wk and a leaky head gasket every 10k being the only symptoms. If there’s cylinder scoring the compression test should find it or rule The cylinders out.
Make sure to put a new washer on the Oil drain when you change it and clean it well , look for drips under it in the drive where you park and dirty streaks below valve cover, head and oil pan gaskets. Leaks are usually tiny but the crud collects below and or behind the spot. If you are leaking that much it will be obvious. Puffing baby powder on suspect areas highlights oil leaks too when you blow it off . The powder sticks to the oil nicely even when it’s invisibly thin. Also never depend on idiot lights or scan tools. Idiot lights are for emergency notification only and scan tools work but not always. They also serve more to point at what to look for possibly than a definite conclusion and often need some intrepitation.
 

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I guess I’m old school! I check all fluids and tire pressure every Saturday morning and spare tire once a month.
Old school here as well (actually old all the way around). I usually do the checking at home, but also do it during 900 mile trips visiting family. I get a kick from watching the reactions of people in the vehicles at the other pumps. I know for certain that some of them are wondering what I'm doing with the hood open, and probably believe I'm looking at a problem. And that gets confirmed when they see me holding a piece of metal in my hand that must certainly have broken off from somewhere on the engine.

Nothing like having a bit of fun to break up the monotony of a long trip :wink:
 

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So here I am today with an issue and looking for advice.

I am at 52,500 miles on a 2016 Hyundai Sonata SE.

Oil and filter last changed at 47k miles.

I drove the car for about 70 miles over about 4 hours this morning. I parked the car and shut it off for about 10 minutes. Started it and it t turned over but struggled and then shut off. Started again and it turned over normally.

Shut it off again and went for the wet dipstick. There was oil on it up to "F" but it looked like spatter.

Went to dip again after drying with napkin and came up bone dry.

I immediately got to a store and put some oil into it. Some smoke out of the engine when I went to add oil but it was wafting smoke not full on smoke, kind of like a small cigarette burning.

Added oil and she started right up, never got a check engine light throughout.

Running Purolator 5w 20 Synthetic Oil and extended life Purolator Filter (one off deal for these two usually running Mobil 1 Synthetic 5w 20 and Mobil 1 filter)




Just wondering where I am with this issue and what actions I should take.

I am going to the service station for a proper oil change soon but wanted to get feedback here first.

Thoughts appreciated.
I am at 53,000 miles on a 2015 Hyundai Sonata SE.

I do not realise any drop in oil level between changes and use any 5W-20 full synthetic oil on sale with any filter. Really.

My one-day drives are on Interstates covering between 400 and 500 miles at sustained high speeds (with acceleration burst speeds that few people drive at). Yet, I do not ever top-up.

Find the cause of the oil loss and employ the solution. Much of what is revealed in this forum points to stuck piston rings. Especially in engines with way less than 100,000 service miles.
 

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The smoke indicates that your engine got hot.
Usually if you drive with no oil, the engine would seize up, and its curtains. Luckily that did not happen.

If you want to have some idea how much damage you did, you could send an oil sample for analysis. An oil lab can tell you a lot about what
parts in your engine are wearing from looking at what type of contamination is in your oil.

Based on what you said, you may have consumed 3-4 quarts in 5K miles. That is a lot. Or maybe at the previous oil change the car was not filled to mark.
Possibly you have a leak? Head gasket problem? Check if your oil has any water in it.
 

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I guess I’m old school! I check all fluids and tire pressure every Saturday morning and spare tire once a month.
I drive more than 700 miles a week and check oil, PS fluid, coolant reservoir, window washer fluid and tire pressure/wear pattern and about once a week when I wash the car.

I think what a lot of us over 50 crowd forget is until the 1990s it was routine to check oil at every fill up either by the station attendant or you. Just because cars have greatly improved in engineering and we have gone from 3000 mile oil changes and 10,000 tuneups (plugs/points/condenser) to synthetic oil with life spans 5000-10,000 and up to a year, spark plugs 100,000 iles etc.
 
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