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Hi everyone!

I would like to purchase a 2014 Santa Fe Sport, just looked at the car and have a couple of questions.

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Link to Carfax report

From the report it seems that the car wasn't maintained for quite a while, Nissan dealer told that not everything is carfaxable and they would try to find some more info (service dept was closed at the time of our inspection, so they promised to provide records later).

Overall the car looks good, some findings:
+ original paint, measured with a tool showing paint thickness
+ breaks/rotors are good
+ no error codes
+ engine oil looks fresh, engine air filter is clean, look like it has been changed recently
+ no sign of frame damage (screws, frame looks original)
+ interior is in pretty good condition (apart from some dirt in panel seams, see pic)

- front glass not original
- low coolant level
- dipstick has yellow deposits
- engine oil cap looks ok
- missing screw holding battery
- missing trim on driver doors

Questions:
* do you think it's crucial for the engine/turbo to miss scheduled maintenance, or Hyundai would replace engine anyways in case anything happens? (turbo?)
* is it normal for passenger widow markers to be mirrored inside the car? (see photo)
* exterior plastic covers has some white buildup, do you think it's recoverable?
* we saw some paint marks of different color on various parts under the hood, is this normal? (e.g. see low coolant pic, black, red marks, and white arrow at the left bottom; battery pic, red mark on the ground cable)

Thank you for any information!
 

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Looks like its missing the engine shroud too. The rubber pieces on the door were probably sucked out when they vacuumed the interior. I suck mine out all the time. Too bad you weren't local to me I would sell you mine. I got less miles too.
 

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I dont see any big problem, except for the maintenance. I dont have yellow marks on my oil dip stick even after 145000km, so I think the oil in this car wasnt changed often...? I replace mine with synthetic every 6000km.

Engine coolant that low is either they just flushed it and need to be adjusted again after all air is gone, or it was never checked because of low maintenance? Or worse case engine is burning some.

Missing trim in the doors : Its only a little "cover" that you can remove easily to clean it, was probably lost
I dont think a not original windshield is a problem
Paint mark everywhere is from factory/dealer inspection when new
Dirt in cracks... well its a used car, buy new if you dont want dirt lol
Plastic black cover whiteness, maybe cheap wax was used on it, there is products to remove it but it will take elbow grease for sure. Or others product like "back-to-black"
Missing screw on battery, we can clearly see the battery was replaced, the mechanic was just too lazy to put back the bolt or lost it.. Find a bolt that fit there and your good.
 

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As with any intention of Used Car purchase, you want to take the car to a technician / shop of your choice who is working for you to have a complete used car inspection done... Remove oil cap and look in for sludge / gel / mud to indicate lack of maintain as far as oil change.. yellow/orange stain is an indicator..

Message sent with Hyundai service info to VIN.. Engine warranty carry on to 120 I think it is with whoever own car at the time
 

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Thank you for responses!

Engine shroud was taken off by me.
Yeah, lack of maintenance is a concern (I don't see an extended warranty for Santa Fe Theta II engines, the one YF Sonatas have)

<< Too bad you weren't local to me I would sell you mine. I got less miles too.
Agreed.

Here is also a "cold start" video:
 

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As with any intention of Used Car purchase, you want to take the car to a technician / shop of your choice who is working for you to have a complete used car inspection done... Remove oil cap and look in for sludge / gel / mud to indicate lack of maintain as far as oil change.. yellow/orange stain is an indicator..

Message sent with Hyundai service info to VIN.. Engine warranty carry on to 120 I think it is with whoever own car at the time
Unfortunately I don't have a trusted technician in the area, will probably take it to Hyundai dealer for a "pre-purchase" inspection, would like to do a compression/leak-down test too.

Oil cap is more or less clean (yelowish), no sludge/gel/mud.
 

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After seeing the cold start video, the oil dipstick is orange, meaning the recall have been done on it. Maybe for this oil dipstick its normal to have the yellow stain/mark? Hard to tell from the picture.
 

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After seeing the cold start video, the oil dipstick is orange, meaning the recall have been done on it. Maybe for this oil dipstick its normal to have the yellow stain/mark? Hard to tell from the picture.
What recall? I have had all recalls (according to the dealer) done to my car and I don't have a orange dip stick.
 

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What recall? I have had all recalls (according to the dealer) done to my car and I don't have a orange dip stick.
Got VIN ?
 

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Looking at the pictures most of this stuff is common on any used car but very common on used sfs. Will address the standouts

The windshield is not original and was replaced. Good news is that the glass brand is good (Pilkington I think) so no worries.

Oil on dipstick looks ok and as commented before, it has been through the engine recall process. Search it out on the forums but long story short all of the 2.0 and 2.4 engines across Hyundai and Kia were subject. Low replacement rate as well...keep calm.

Plastic cladding was probably hit with wax residue at dealer prep. Use tire wet to nullify...not sure how to remove. It will get dirtier with time and it's hard to get back black. As a rural driver I stopped trying a long time ago.

Battery screw is for the hold down so at least u know the battery got replaced. IIRC it's a 14mm screw. Battery will hold itself so not really needed.

Interior dirt will find it's way into the console crevices. Use putty and elbow grease to remove. Also I do not have my door thingy on the driver side either and have no idea how to get one since it's not listed in the parts catalog..

Things to check pre purchase
13 and 14 sfs have known issues with the gas tank and filler neck. Basically there is a valve that will stop the pump when tank is getting full. I had to have my whole tank replaced under warranty and it was like pulling teeth

Hood and hatch struts are another issue and are influenced by cold weather. I had to replace my hatch struts out of my own pocket but they are cheap...50 bucks a pair. Hood is getting weak but its much lighter so not a real issue there but I almost koed myself on the hatch.

Backup camera they are prone to failure. Only warranted to 36k as part of audio system...if past that just budget for a replacement soon. Indicators are a blue screen when going into reverse or distortions in the radio display. Also noticed it has nav. Some have reported issues but usually a reset fixes it. Upgrade for map is pricey too.

Should have heated rear seats. Check functionality before purchase. Modules are not cheap and hard to find at boneyards

Not sure if HID but if so they are auto leveling. Have someone bounce the rear with them on...the projectors should move.

Also most of the grey surfaces are painted and the quality is not good. It will chip or rub...not covered under warranty.

Those are the majors in my opinion. Hope it drives nice and price is good.
 
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35000 miles, your buying a used car and want a compression / leak down check already? Please don't let me be your technician! ha. You are very thorough for sure. As stringent as you are, put that bolt to hold the battery! 10/100 Powertrain warranties on these are only transferable to family from 1st owner, buy extended for sure! Not sure about the recalls. Car sounds good though. good luck
 

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Thanks everyone! Your advice is very valuable.

Interestingly, when I run my Sonata VIN through
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaignhome/Campaign/Index
I get Campaign132 "Engine recall" and TXX3 "Extended engine warranty".

For this Santa Fe I get just Campaign163 "Hood latch recall".

NHTSA gives 3 possible recalls including Campaign132 and Campaign162 "noise inspection"
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2014/HYUNDAI/SANTA%2520FE/SUV/AWD#recalls

Both
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign132
and
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign162
tell "Your Vehicle is NOT affected."

Why the dipstick is orange then? Or Hyundai just started installing orange on factory.

Regarding extended warranty, it's definitely desirable, however Nissan dealer sells the car AS-IS with NO additional warranty.

Bottom line, from my experience owning Sonata with 150k miles on the clock and current 1q per 500 miles oil consumption, I am prepared for the most probable cause of engine seizure, however would like to prolong its life as much as possible.
 

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Thanks everyone! Your advice is very valuable.

Interestingly, when I run my Sonata VIN through
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaignhome/Campaign/Index
I get Campaign132 "Engine recall" and TXX3 "Extended engine warranty".

For this Santa Fe I get just Campaign163 "Hood latch recall".

NHTSA gives 3 possible recalls including Campaign132 and Campaign162 "noise inspection"
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2014/HYUNDAI/SANTA%2520FE/SUV/AWD#recalls

Both
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign132
and
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign162
tell "Your Vehicle is NOT affected."

Why the dipstick is orange then? Or Hyundai just started installing orange on factory.

Regarding extended warranty, it's definitely desirable, however Nissan dealer sells the car AS-IS with NO additional warranty.

Bottom line, from my experience owning Sonata with 150k miles on the clock and current 1q per 500 miles oil consumption, I am prepared for the most probable cause of engine seizure, however would like to prolong its life as much as possible.
You can always get an extended warranty direct from someone else.
I used carchex for my old 2005 Chevy Equinox.

Granted, the pricing may not be to your liking, but you can negotiate.
 

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All this trouble, why not just get a new one? The price can't be that different.
Well a $10,000 price difference is not trivial, IMO.
At least around here.

2014 SFS 2.0T (2nd highest trim level) is about $22,000-23,000 here.
Brand new 2017 SFS 2.0 T (same trim level) was closer to $33,000 here.

At least last year when my roomate checked around. Obviously things will vary a bit. A 2018 now (none of our local places have a 2017 SFS 2.0 T any more) may be a tad more.

But I'd agree that a 2015 would be better (at least in terms of the engine recall), but I've not looked up the reliability of that model year compared to others (although unfortunately the SFS and Sante Fe both get lumped in the aggregate data, so it's hard to tell sometimes).
 

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Well a $10,000 price difference is not trivial, IMO.
At least around here.

2014 SFS 2.0T (2nd highest trim level) is about $22,000-23,000 here.
Brand new 2017 SFS 2.0 T (same trim level) was closer to $33,000 here.

At least last year when my roomate checked around. Obviously things will vary a bit. A 2018 now (none of our local places have a 2017 SFS 2.0 T any more) may be a tad more.

But I'd agree that a 2015 would be better (at least in terms of the engine recall), but I've not looked up the reliability of that model year compared to others (although unfortunately the SFS and Sante Fe both get lumped in the aggregate data, so it's hard to tell sometimes).
[email protected] tootin on the price...that's why I bought used as well.

One thing in favor of the older years is that the packages were more generous in terms of equipment. For example the 13s and 14s have heated rear seats as part of the popular equipment without nav where in later years it is now part of the Ultimate Package.

Also turbo engines seem to be a bit less powerful on paper in later years. Of course the butt dyno is the real judge, right? Tow ratings didn't change throughout the years (2000lbs for the 2.4 and 3500 for the 2.0t) so torque should still be the same as well.

Curious why reliability data is mixed for the two body styles since the big Santa Fe has the v6 as the sole engine whereas the sport models are only 4cyl...
 

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Thanks everyone! Your advice is very valuable.

Interestingly, when I run my Sonata VIN through
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaignhome/Campaign/Index
I get Campaign132 "Engine recall" and TXX3 "Extended engine warranty".

For this Santa Fe I get just Campaign163 "Hood latch recall".

NHTSA gives 3 possible recalls including Campaign132 and Campaign162 "noise inspection"
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2014/HYUNDAI/SANTA%2520FE/SUV/AWD#recalls

Both
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign132
and
https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign162
tell "Your Vehicle is NOT affected."
I beleive I covered you Recalls and Warranty Claims in message the other night..

My info is straight off Hyundai Service site that aiale fella looks at when he / she writes service ticket when car show up in service aisle.. NHTSA or others sites is just propaganda,, want truth,, Hyundai Service site using dealer login.

That is why I ask you all for VIN,, so I can give you up to minute proper info as seen on Hyundai Service site
 
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