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Dear Friends,

This week has been a very exceptional one. So many things have happened; I feel that finally the pieces are falling in to place. The last few months were very challenging in every aspect, but the hard work starts to pay off.

During the development of the product, I tried to stick to my deepest value of being as completely transparent and honest as possible. I took on a personal challenge; to bring to market a product of an exceptional value of performance versus price. Like you, I’m tired of paying exaggerated prices to buy what I really need and want. I’m a newborn in the business; however I think I can bring some fresh air where you and I can be in a win-win situation.

In my mind, and from the beginning, I decided to approach the market in a different way. From the beginning I decided that my main goal would be to beat the portable navigation systems at their own game and integrate a class leading comprehensive GPS solution into an integrated media device. I encourage the customers to consider and compare both options (my integrated solution and the off the shelf standalone GPS devices) and buy accordingly to their needs.

The most difficult task was to build the business according to the above ideal by respecting the profit margins of my suppliers. Compass-NAV, as a company, was founded to minimize the overhead and therefore minimize the impact on final price. I’m in a position today where I can certainly say: “Mission completed”. I was able to create a horizontal business structure to eliminate the waste of money. The whole structure sits on the network of people found on this forum. From the manuals creator, the website designer or the “guinea pig”, everything is working cohesively using today’s technology. The most important thing to mention is all of the participants of this thread that have been following me since the beginning, THANK YOU!! If this thread is growing more than ever, it’s all because of you…. Nothing less.

Today, I can certainly declare that we have in our hands a true master piece of mobile entertainment. The CN-M5 raised the bar in this category in Korea and I’m pleased to integrate their technology to our flavor. We won’t stop it here; we have the room to grow bringing even more exciting features.

Now I’m pleased to present the final offering of the CN-M5 integrated navi-tainment system for your Sonata, look for the “EXCLUSIVES” to Compass NAV’s product. No other vendor offers these features!!

Technology:
The reason why it integrates so well with existing factory features is because the foundation IS from the factory. Let me explain. Most of the offerings today replace the entire radio and dash components to make it “look” factory. The reality is those manufacturers are using a generic box and they adapt it the best they can to your car. The problem is they can’t integrate perfectly because it would cost them too much money to adapt it 100%, thus loosing XM, steering wheel controls etc…. Our approach is different; we use your current factory radio. Yes! The metal box with the tuners and amplifiers of your existing car, we just remove the face of it thus removing only the keypad and the LCD screen only. That leaves the factory flat ribbon cable and the Bluetooth antenna out of the metal box. That ribbon cable is interfaced with a controller module that converts the messages sent and received by the old face and sent now to our Tablet PC. In reality you keep the master component that retains your factory features but they are now going thru a touchscreen interface.

Features:
Retain all your factory features such as:
- Steering wheel controls (VOL+/-, Track+/-, Mode, Voice dial, Answer/Hang-up
- XM Radio
- Bluetooth
- HD Radio
- Bluelink
- USB
- IPOD playback
- Factory Climate control

Base kit includes:
1- High Quality plastic trim that matches your factory look and finish.
2- Large 8 inch display pre-assembled into the plastic trim.
3- 6 sets of cable for connectivity (see below)
4- 1 external speaker
5- 1 high power GPS antenna
6- Brackets and mounting screw
7- Trip interface board and cables
8- 1 SDCARD 8 Gig preloaded with IGO Primo with preloaded NAVTEQ map for USA & Canada
9- 1 SDCARD to USB adapter
10- 1 set of User Manuals loaded on SDcard
11- 1 Set of Installation manuals loaded on SDCard
12- A Thank You letter with authenticity certificate with serial number.
13- Warranty card
14- Bill of materials and check list.

Hardware:
- Boot time in less than 7 seconds to Home screen, 17 seconds Navigation fully loaded!
- 8 inch screen, 800 X 480 resolution, 32 bit color depth, super bright 500 candela with very high contrast and graphic details.
- 2.12 Ghz CPU Automotive grade, the fastest in the industry for this class. “EXCLUSIVE”
- 512 Megs RAM, among the highest in the industry “EXCLUSIVE”
- 512 Megs NAND Flash permanent storage
Audio Section
- Realtek ALC5623
- Digital-to-Analog Converter with 92dB SNR and –85dB THD+N
- Analog-to-Digital Converter with 85dB SNR and –80dB THD+N
- Stereo headphone output with on-chip 45mW headphone driver (AVDD=3.3V, 16Ω load)
- 3 channels separated logic (2+1)
- 10 Band graphic Equalizer.
- Main I/O
- 1 USB 2.0 Host port
- 1 Serial port GPS
- Backup Camera Reverse Gear sensing
- Backup Camera Input
- 1 A/V in
- 1 AUX out
- 1 Speaker 2Watts
- SUB I/O
- 1 A/V out
- 1 IR in
- 1 Mic
- 1 Serial port TMC RDS tuner for Traffic Alerts in Navigation “EXCLUSIVE”
- External Accessory Box
- 1 SD Card slot, for GPS
- 1 USB 2.0 Host port
- 1 Reset

Trim Kit
- High quality plastic OEM matching color and finish
- High class distinctive illuminated Chrome Keypad with 8 shortcut key and one Volume/ON/OFF volume knob. We use our own high quality Keypad, not the one commonly available on the market.
- Relocated Passenger Airbag /Seat Belt warning lights. Temperature sensor in progress.
- All you need is bundled in the kit.
User Interface
- Refreshed UI for North American customer.
- Distinctive radio interface for your Sonata. We don’t share the same radio interface among the whole car line-up. Your Sonata is distinctive! “EXCLUSIVE”
- Fast and responsive interface even in multitasking mode, thanks to the fast processor and memory.
- “Quick Menu”, easy access to other device functions with only two key press. “EXCLUSIVE”
- 2 different home screens, 1 user customizable wallpaper.
- Music Album Art from external media such has USB key, SDCARD or portable hard drive.
- HD 1080p Video playback from external media such has USB key, SDCARD or portable hard drive. “EXCLUSIVE”
- Memo Pad, write your quick shopping list!
- Photo Album for your favorite pictures of the beloved ones.
- External Video player such as portable DVD player or game console.
- Distinctive Clock Screen with car speed in MPH or KM/h. GPS time synchro.
- Navigation multitasking with other multimedia capabilities without lag!
- “Instant Rear Backup” rear view as soon as the car is engage into reverse gear, even if the device is not fully booted! “EXCLUSIVE”
- Parking Assist System, trajectory prediction by monitoring front steering wheel position.
- “Intelligent Sound Routing” Navigation sound will be routed automatically to the external speaker if the factory radio is busy at playing other sources. “EXCLUSIVE”

Navigation:
- IGO Primo 2.0 Premium navigation package BLUE SKIN “EXCLUSIVE”:
- Pre-loaded maps for North America by Navteq
- True 3D rendering Open GL
- 3D lane Assist and guidance
- Real Junction views and real signposts
- Real Country road shields
- 3D Exits
- On route POI’s for the next 3 exits (User customizable) on your finger tip
- Automatic map scale depending on your driving speed
- On screen selectable POI’s
- Branded POI’s
- Text to Speech PRO (fluent pronunciation)
- Smart data entry
- Route alternative comparison
- Multipoint route
- Proximity alerts
- Road condition alerts
- User Speed Camera database
- Speed limits.
- Much more

Map updates service thru Naviextras.com
- Map updates released at least twice a year.
- Average cost per map update, $60.00
- 3D extras, such as 3D buildings and Speed Cams available for around $10.00 from NaviExtras
- Navteq RDS Traffic Message yearly subscription available.
Options:
- Remote control
- Rear CMOS High Resolution Backup Camera
- TMC Tuner (FM RDS Traffic Message Tuner) “EXCLUSIVE”
- Parking Assist System (final testing stage)
Customer Care:
- 3 Years transferable standard limited warranty.
- Lifetime support, 16 hours/day on week, 4 hours on Saturday’s.
- Customer support at your convenience, phone, email, Skype and iPhone Face Time.
- Serialized product; we keep records of your purchase for immediate and personalized assistance. You will be contacted for future product updates and enhancement.
- You are a unique customer to us; your kit will be shipped pre-assembled from factory and pre-configured according to your order! “EXCLUSIVE”
- Device complies to FCC CFR47 Part 15B and Industry Canada ICES-003 regulations for safe interaction with factory equipment.
- Proven and tested under harsh weather conditions.
- Stock/Warranty/Repair parts located in California, USA and Montreal, Canada
- Fast exchange of defective parts…. Certain conditions apply

Sonata supported models:
- Sonata 2011 GL, GLS
- Sonata 2011 LIMITED 6 CD, currently not supported, BUT we will develop according to demand. We are ready to do it!
- Sonata 2012 GL, GLS, LIMITED
- Future Sonata builds.

I sincerely hope you are satisfied with my offering and I remain yours if you have questions.

I thank each and every one of you for your outstanding support and your patience during the past months. A true enthusiast has developed the product for enthusiasts or the customers that look closely for perfection with the best ingredients of the market.

For this loyalty, you are eligible for the first group buy with a massive introductory discount. Please see the details under my site sponsor section. Here: Compass-NAV - Hyundai Forums : Hyundai Forum This is a one-time offer. (Will be online this Saturday morning)

Again thank you and have fun, life is too short.

Sincerely,

Charles
 

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I dont know if those are actual photos or suppose to be what it will look like but it looks good. Some things to think about are that the 2012's have bluelink and would be nice if that could also somehow be incorporated and not lost. Also the steering wheel controls.

What is the price suppose to be like and is this something that would need to be installed by a shop or dealership or could it be installed by the owner relatively easily?

I would have just given you my old radio cause I had a car totalled but I dont have it anymore. I would check a salvage yard, especially one that auctions totalled cars from insurance companies because they will auction off and sell the parts off of it to you.
 

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I dont know if those are actual photos or suppose to be what it will look like but it looks good. Some things to think about are that the 2012's have bluelink and would be nice if that could also somehow be incorporated and not lost. Also the steering wheel controls.

What is the price suppose to be like and is this something that would need to be installed by a shop or dealership or could it be installed by the owner relatively easily?

I would have just given you my old radio cause I had a car totalled but I dont have it anymore. I would check a salvage yard, especially one that auctions totalled cars from insurance companies because they will auction off and sell the parts off of it to you.
Hello Chuck,

Thanks for your interest. Yes, this is the actual picture of the system. Don't worry, all factory features will be kept. In fact, we retrofit your factory radio with a touch screen computer bezel. All the features you already had are kept and accessible thru the touch screen or harware keys.

We can add other features like navigation and multimedia because the new front bezel is not only a touch screen, its also a high power Windows CE device. ( I will post later the harware specs.)

See attached picture, you will see how it's made. You can easily put the new radio by yourself.

If any other questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks,

Charles
 

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I like the idea behind this but heres the problem I have. If I keep the factory head unit and I am just changing out the display I still have the unpowered stock head unit. Its just like putting spinners on a civic its still a civic. I would rather spend a couple hundred more and get a better head unit. Now I was able to find a replacement head unit that will be coming out basically looks like this but just has more power.
http://rosendealercentral.com/nav/Hyundai%20Sonata%20System%20Only.bmp

TRAILDUTY.COM said they would have these for 900.00 and 149.99 for xm kit starting next month.

I wasnt trying to thead hijack but just wanted to let everyone know the other options instead of starting another thread.
 

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I like the idea behind this but heres the problem I have. If I keep the factory head unit and I am just changing out the display I still have the unpowered stock head unit. Its just like putting spinners on a civic its still a civic. I would rather spend a couple hundred more and get a better head unit. Now I was able to find a replacement head unit that will be coming out basically looks like this but just has more power.
http://rosendealercentral.com/nav/Hyundai Sonata System Only.bmp

TRAILDUTY.COM said they would have these for 900.00 and 149.99 for xm kit starting next month.

I wasnt trying to thead hijack but just wanted to let everyone know the other options instead of starting another thread.

Hello FAST,

I appreciate your comments. You are absolutely right, changing the face place to a computer touch screen will not improve the sound performance of the factory radio, you are correct.

However, it depends on your priorities. If high quality sound and power is your top priority, then, you are correct, you should put your money in something else but not where you might think.

Those fully integrated OEM like will disappoint you as far the sound quality. I am positive, 90% of those aftermarkets OEM like are made in China and the quality of the components, sound processors and printed circuits are way out of the sound quality you can expect. Their way of measuring the output power is measured within their own standards and most does not meet with CEA-2006 compliancy. If you want to be ensured to have good sound quality, then I would suggest to you to stay within the popular brands like Kenwood, Pioneer, Alpine… to name a few.

Also, if you want to retain the factory features you had like XM, Bluetooth, steering wheel, then you have to ditch a couple of hundreds for those accessories. On top of all, if you want to add navigation, well a few more hundreds. At the end, based on my little 25 years in the 12 volts industry, you might end up somewhere at 1,500$ at least… this is a little more than “couple hundred”

My point is if you are happy with the performance of your radio, you don’t like a wire spaghetti in your car, you don’t want to mess with your car wires and you would like to keep everything you already have plus a little more extras then a think our solution is a nice fit OEM like that will keep theft away.

Remember, you keep all you already have and you add navigation and little more multimedia capability.

Hope that helps!

Thanks,

Charles

N.B. in case you ask, what we’re about to release is a supplier of a very popular car manufacturer in Korea, can’t say more…
 

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Wow that looks great, I'd definitely be interested in something like that for my Sonata, I was too afraid to lose all the functions like bluetooth and the like...Think you guys will make this available in Canada? lol
 

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Well it is very interesting!! Keeping all factory option was a big point for me and that solution is something that I would buy!! But if we could get a range of price it would be great that way I could start saving my money!! And by the way is it going to be available in Canada (Quebec) ???
 

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Well it is very interesting!! Keeping all factory option was a big point for me and that solution is something that I would buy!! But if we could get a range of price it would be great that way I could start saving my money!! And by the way is it going to be available in Canada (Quebec) ???
Thanks guys for your interrest,

Well good news, I'm from Canada... Quebec... close to Montreal and the company will be based here. But the product will be made for the whole North American market. US customers are more than welcome.

To make it successful, I would need a radio to start the developpement and testing.

I need your help guys.

Thanks,

Charles

PS Sorry guys, I will get back to you soon with a budgetary pricing, hopefully before the end of the week.
 

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Hey well I'm reel close to Montreal too!! I would like to help but in the mean time I need my radio but we could meet maybe to talk about it!!
 

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here ya go there's my answer,its still in developmental stage and no price yet in sight, thanks. ^_^
Hi Ayinxx,

Sorry, I am misleading you. The product currently exists and working on the market for several years, just not in North America. There are specific things that need to be implemented and tested used only in our countries; XM broadcast is a good example. Also some products might work well in warm weather but we want to test it under severe conditions.

We do not want to sell crap to the market; we want to penetrate it with proven and reliable technology, that's it! :)

Charles
 

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Hi Ayinxx,

Sorry, I am misleading you. The product currently exists and working on the market for several years, just not in North America. There are specific things that need to be implemented and tested used only in our countries; XM broadcast is a good example. Also some products might work well in warm weather but we want to test it under severe conditions.

We do not want to sell crap to the market; we want to penetrate it with proven and reliable technology, that's it! :)

Charles
Now I normally try not to be a downer but something just doesnt sound right here. What major company that "you cant mention" that already sells this product in another country has already done qualty tests in different climates hasnt done quality test in hot and cold climates? Why would they turn to someone on a Hyundai forum to test their product and then ask them to test it when you have to ask someone on a forum to donate a factory radio. If the product exists and the company is that big they would have engineers who would do the programming for xm and the other features. Ill appologize if im wrong but to me this sounds like some scam where someone is trying to get a free radio. Another issue is he cant even give us a price. You dont go on a forum announce something like this and not have a price. This is probably the hottest item if you have a company try and get to the market and your going to have some guy on a forum go and do your advertising?
 

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Now I normally try not to be a downer but something just doesnt sound right here. What major company that "you cant mention" that already sells this product in another country has already done qualty tests in different climates hasnt done quality test in hot and cold climates? Why would they turn to someone on a Hyundai forum to test their product and then ask them to test it when you have to ask someone on a forum to donate a factory radio. If the product exists and the company is that big they would have engineers who would do the programming for xm and the other features. Ill appologize if im wrong but to me this sounds like some scam where someone is trying to get a free radio. Another issue is he cant even give us a price. You dont go on a forum announce something like this and not have a price. This is probably the hottest item if you have a company try and get to the market and your going to have some guy on a forum go and do your advertising?
FAST,

Listen, I don't know if you didn't like my previous answer, but my intent was to help you into not buying something you would be disappointed with. Second, I don't see appropriate to discuss opinions here because it will never end. But please let me clarify certain things for you to make sure that I’m very clear, not lying to anybody and I can prove whatever I’m saying anytime:

1- I own a Sonata 2010, my previous car was a Sonata 2007.
2- Both were installed with a JVC KW-NX7000 navigation unit and this is where everything started.
3- I’m a big fan of electronic stuff, not my fault; it’s always been this way.
4- To my taste, aftermarket radio with navigation are cutting short the corners in releasing map update at least once a year and there life cycle is very short for the price you are paying.
5- I had the idea of adding an updatable navigation box (Like IGO) to an existing aftermarket car DVD player where the USER can decide to buy or not new maps and at the same time prolong the life cycle of the investment. To me it was important to have at least a yearly update.
6- On my own initiative, I looked around on the net for that famous navigation box with specific hardware and also looking for a manufacturer with good reputation, proven hardware and established. I took me two months to find it. Not only I found what I was looking for but also found they had other similar product like what I’m offering in this thread.
7- I approached this company; they were not looking for a guy in a Hyundai forum. The timing was good for them because they wanted to expand to North America and I offered my help.
8- Testing the equipment before selling comes, again, from my own initiative. I don’t want to burn myself and burn others too. I have to inject a lot of my personal money to make it happen. Paper spec’s and real life is two different things, selling a product with a life span of a year, I just can’t call that long term business plan and relationship. Good practices are win-win situations.
9- I NEVER ASKED FOR A DONATION, SORRY, NEVER ASKED FOR CHARITY. Please read carefully and read my first post.
10- Manufacturing car components involves assemblies, sub-assemblies and sub-sub-assemblies. My supplier makes only the facia and the touch screen computer and assembles it on the sheet metal body. Also, as you may know, auto manufacturer never puts their eggs into one basket. Quantities are too big and they have to split the work across different suppliers across strategic countries.
11- XM satellite radio is available in North America only. If you don’t know, the world does not stop around our countries. It is possible that they’ve never made it and that’s why they would need a radio body to understand it, program it and make some test, ship it back here for final testing (my job).
12- Before jumping into a highly competitive market, you have to measure to risk and make sure you will get your share. There’s tons of crap out there waiting to fool you with bad quality, false spec….. If I don’t get any interest from you guys, why should I pursue a lost opportunity in advance? The manufacturer does not sell directly to end users. I have to engage a lot of money upfront to meet the minimum order quantities to even think to resale at a competitive price. On top of that, I have to do the same thing with the navigation software supplier to obtain licence. Do you have an idea of the MOQ? About 1000 units of each model. I can ensure you won’t get it for 50 cents.
13- I posted the same thing on the Elantra and Tucson forum. Why the heck I would want 3 different radios? Hello, anybody home?
14- I promise, I will get you a ball park price as soon as possible. It should be end of this week or early next week.

Sorry for being rude at times but I can’t let someone telling me that I’m a scammer or even worst, a liar.

For the ones really interested, stay tuned. And please, find me a radio that I’m ready to BUY.

Regards,

Charles
 

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Like I said if I'm wrong about this I will apologize, but in all the forums I post in I have never seen a post like this. If this even turns out to be good I might even be in on the buy but this would have to be so competitively priced compared to whats coming out on the market or whats on the market. All the systems coming out for the sonata allow you to keep all your features including blue link and their starting off at 699.99 and that's for the full system. Your system will still require a separate DVD source. Other than hooking in a game system is there anyone still making decent in car DVD players? I thought those were a thing of the past. Keep us posted on prices and we all would like to see a video demo.
 

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Like I said if I'm wrong about this I will apologize, but in all the forums I post in I have never seen a post like this. If this even turns out to be good I might even be in on the buy but this would have to be so competitively priced compared to whats coming out on the market or whats on the market. All the systems coming out for the sonata allow you to keep all your features including blue link and their starting off at 699.99 and that's for the full system. Your system will still require a separate DVD source. Other than hooking in a game system is there anyone still making decent in car DVD players? I thought those were a thing of the past. Keep us posted on prices and we all would like to see a video demo.
Hi Fast,

Can you please direct me where you found such system at 699$ I'm curious to see what it looks like.

Thanks

Charles
 
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