[JaredC01]

Alright, I'm a couple days late on 'tomorrow' from the last post, but better late than never!

First off, I'm using DDM Tuning's Hi/Lo H4 HID Kit, available on their website: DDM Tuning. They have a lifetime warranty on their kits and they're cheap as can be!

Also, I would like to put out a little bit of information most people are only half straight on:

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4300K is considered "Pure White". It's what OEM manufacturers use, and it's 100% pure white, with no blue to it. Stock projectors that LOOK blue, are in reality using 4300K bulbs, with a HID projector lens (HID lenses are prisms designed to output a different wavelength than halogen projectors). From the extreme side, the lights appear purple, turning to blue, and finally pure white at the center. I personally don't like any blue in a HID kit.

Here is the reason I don't like blue HIDs... When talking about any sort of energy wave, the shorter the wavelength is, the higher the energy output is. In the visible portion of the wave spectrum, Violet sits at 400nm, and Red sits at 800nm. Since Violet has a lower wavelength, it's got a higher energy output. What's this all mean in layman's terms? It means that the further you go into the blue and violet portions of the color spectrum, the more fatigued your eyes will be from the light.

If you want to test this, get a blue LED, and a red LED, and look at them both (from a distance, and do NOT point them directly in your eyes). The blue one will leave your eyes more fatigued than the red one will. Red is as easy on the eyes as you can get in the visible spectrum.

Here's a rundown of the HID kit colors...

4300K-5000K - Stock OEM pure white.
6000K - Mostly white with a hint of blue.
8000K - 50/50 mix of white and blue.
10000K - Pure blue with very little white visible.
12000K - Violet with a tinge of blue.

As you go up in temperature, you lose total light output (lumens). 8000K HID bulbs are, in all reality, EQUAL to 55w Halogen bulbs in lumens produced. The 8000K HID only SEEMS to have better output due to the wavelength of the light produced (remember above how blue light fatigues the eyes more than red?). Since blue fatigues your eyes more than red (or mostly white with a hint of red in the case of a Halogen bulb), you perceive the 8000K HID to be brighter. The truth of the matter is that the (35w) 8000K HID system produces right around 1180 lumens, and a 55w Halogen bulb produces right around 1100 lumens. A 35w OEM HID system running 4300K to 5000K will produce between 3000 and 4000 lumens of total output.

Anything over 8000K is actually WORSE for visibility than the stock Halogen system.

(by the way, yes I wrote all of this myself)

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Now, back to the install!

I personally chose 4500K temperature for my HID kit as it's true pure white, however you are free to pick a color of your own preference.

Disclaimer: NEVER TOUCH THE BULB WITH BARE HANDS! THE OIL ON YOUR SKIN CAN CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THE BULBS!

Required Tools:

1. Snips of some sort...
2. Needle-nose Pliers
3. Phillips Screwdriver
4. 10mm Socket / Wrench / Driver (headlight assembly)
5. 8mm Socket / Wrench / Driver (fascia assembly)
6. ~12mm Socket / Wrench / Driver (headlight assembly)
7. Zip Ties (various sizes)
8. Patience!

Part 1: Remove the headlights! I didn't do a tutorial for this as I didn't have my camera handy for pictures, however I can explain how I did it.

There are a total of four bolts and two plastic tabs that need to be removed, then you will need to do a bit of tweaking to the front fascia to remove the lights. The first two bolts on the headlight are 10mm, and are located on the top of the headlight closest to the front of the car where the headlight joins the body, and on the back of the headlight about midway. The third bolt that needs to be removed is on the top of the headlight nearest the windshield, and is somewhere around 12mm (I used pliers to remove since I didn't have a fitting driver). With the three bolts removed, the only thing holding the headlight in place is the clip. To remove the headlight without breaking the clip, you will need to remove the two plastic screw tabs and the 8mm bolt from the front fascia corners and gently pull them loose. You should get enough room to pull the headlights out. You will need to do this with each of the headlights.

Part 2: Fitting the bulbs!

You will need to remove a bit of material i order to get the bulb wires run. To do this I used a pair of snips and angled needle-nose pliers, as seen in the pictures.

Step 1: Uncap the bulb housing.

Driver's side headlight assembly...

Cap removed...

Step 2: Remove the current 9003 (H4) bulb.

Unhook the connector...

Unlock the clip and remove the bulb...

Step 3: Prepare the HID bulb.

Full bulb assembly...

Bulb housing (what we want for now), place the bulbs in a safe place until the next step...

Step 4: Place the HID housing and bulb in the headlight assembly.

HID bulb housing set in place and secured using the clip mechanism...

Slide the HID bulb into the bulb housing and lock it in place...

Step 5: Remove the stock power connector.

Unlock the power connector...

Push the power connector to the side inside the headlight assembly...

Step 6: Remove some plastic material from the headlight assembly.

Using some snips, cut down the side of the stock power connector housing...

Snipped and ready to be removed...

Removing the material with angled needle-nose pliers...

Material removed...

With the side cut down, you can now proceed to the base of the stock power connector housing...

Continued...

 

[JaredC01]

Removing the base material...

All material removed...

Step 7: Run the power harness wires into the headlight.

The HID H4 power connector...

Feed the HID H4 power connector into the stock power connector housing...

Pull the HID H4 power connector through into the main bulb housing area...

Connect the HID H4 power connector to the headlight bulb connector...

Move the connected power assembly into an open area in the headlight...

Step 8: Run the HID bulb connectors outside the headlight assembly.

Run all three of the connector cables out through the cutout in the stock power connector housing...

Put the stock power connector back in place being careful not to pinch any of the run wires...

Step 9: Close the headlight assembly up.

Place the bulb cover back in place...

Step 10: Repeat the processor on the passenger side.

Repeat the headlight material removal on the passenger side. Since the passenger side does NOT have a H4 connector, less material needs to be removed...

Place the wires in the channel created...

Replace the stock bulb power connector...

All closed up...

Part 3: Reinstall the headlight assemblies.

Once again I didn't take pictures (shame on me, I know), however just reverse the steps you took to remove the headlights and you should do just fine.

Part 4: Wire up the kit.

Step 1: Setup the wiring harness.

Zip tie the control module in place (I later changed the location, pictures will be updated with new locations)...

Continued...

 

[JaredC01]

Connect the ground wire to a good ground connection (body ground used in the picture). Note: There is one ground for each side, will update pictures with final setup...

Connect the ballast power connector from the wiring harness to the bulb ballasts / ignitors.
Connect the HID bulb power connectors to the ballasts / ignitors.
Connect the Hi/Lo power connector from the wiring harness to the bulb connector.

Part 5: Run the HID system for 15 minutes to properly burn-in the bulbs.

Bulbs running...

Part 6: Enjoy the HID system!

Shot of the color of the bulbs, pure white...

A bit closer up...

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Total time it took me to install them is about two hours. A lot of that time was spent deciding how to run everything how I wanted it. With one install done, I could probably finish another install in about an hour.

If there are any questions, feel free to ask them!


-Jared

 

[normandelli]

Jared,

Thanks for the very detailed post. If it's not too much to ask though, would you be able to put up a photo of your Tucson's lights aimed at a wall from 25 feet away on both low and high?

Thanks!

N :thumbsup:

 

[JaredC01]

QUOTE (normandelli @ Jun 18 2010, 02:13 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334025

Jared,

Thanks for the very detailed post. If it's not too much to ask though, would you be able to put up a photo of your Tucson's lights aimed at a wall from 25 feet away on both low and high?

Thanks!

N :thumbsup:

I'll see what I can do, though there aren't many level areas with large walls near my apartment. I'm also going to be realigning the headlights once I get a chance... I messed the alignment up on my passenger side bulb by mistake. Did a quick realignment, but it needs a full once-over.

 

[normandelli]

Don't worry about alignment - what I'm hoping to see is how the light is dispersed as well what the cutoff looks like.

QUOTE (JaredC01 @ Jun 18 2010, 08:50 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334318

I'll see what I can do, though there aren't many level areas with large walls near my apartment. I'm also going to be realigning the headlights once I get a chance... I messed the alignment up on my passenger side bulb by mistake. Did a quick realignment, but it needs a full once-over.

 

[JaredC01]

QUOTE (normandelli @ Jun 18 2010, 04:54 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334320

Don't worry about alignment - what I'm hoping to see is how the light is dispersed as well what the cutoff looks like.

Gotcha. I'll see what I can do for ya.

Edit: Took a quick pic after work with my phone... Didn't do a high-beam test yet, I'm going to wait until I have my digital cam for it. The garage door is on a slight uphill, which is why the beams look low.

 

[normandelli]

Cut-offs are gone - just as I suspected. There's supposed to be a sharp line towards the top that tapers upwards to the right.

If you're wondering why I'm asking, see this

Anyways, thanks again for taking the time to accommodate my request.

Be safe! :thumbsup:

N

 

[JaredC01]

QUOTE (normandelli @ Jun 19 2010, 04:20 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334383

Cut-offs are gone - just as I suspected. There's supposed to be a sharp line towards the top that tapers upwards to the right.

If you're wondering why I'm asking, see this

Anyways, thanks again for taking the time to accommodate my request.

Be safe! :thumbsup:

N

The cut-offs aren't gone, they're still there on both sides. My phone overexposes the image, resulting in a 'blob' of light, which is why I said I'll take some new pics soon with my other cam. Also as said before, the alignment is off on the right side (it's too high at the moment).

I figured you asked for that reason. I did a HID conversion on my Tiburon as well, including a full projector retro-fit, and I wouldn't have done it any other way... I was worried about light bleeding with the Tucson since it doesn't have a projector lens I could retro-fit, however after the install the pattern is still every bit as good as it was before. I'll see if I can get the bulbs aligned tonight and take some new pictures for ya, though being summer in Alaska, there's not much in the way of darkness.

 

[normandelli]

That would be awesome if you could post those pics. I also installed HIDs on my 06 Sonata but since it already had projectors, it worked out just fine. It's something I've been itching to do on the Tucson as well but as you figured, I'm concerned about scattering light all over the place. Good to know there's hope for it.

My experience has only been with H7s as the Sonata's housing has separate low and high beams. How does your kit do low and high?

QUOTE (JaredC01 @ Jun 19 2010, 04:57 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334494

The cut-offs aren't gone, they're still there on both sides. My phone overexposes the image, resulting in a 'blob' of light, which is why I said I'll take some new pics soon with my other cam. Also as said before, the alignment is off on the right side (it's too high at the moment).

I figured you asked for that reason. I did a HID conversion on my Tiburon as well, including a full projector retro-fit, and I wouldn't have done it any other way... I was worried about light bleeding with the Tucson since it doesn't have a projector lens I could retro-fit, however after the install the pattern is still every bit as good as it was before. I'll see if I can get the bulbs aligned tonight and take some new pictures for ya, though being summer in Alaska, there's not much in the way of darkness.

 

[JaredC01]

Not going to get a chance to do it tonight, been raining all day... Possibly tomorrow if the rain stops!

There are still large differences in projectors. The projectors in the Tiburon (and the Sonata) are Halogen projectors, which are designed to project a certain light spectrum directly forward and disperse the rest. With a HID bulb installed in a Halogen projector, you get a good light pattern out the front of the projector, but the dispersed light is what blinds oncoming traffic. HID projectors direct the full range from the HID bulbs out the front, and only the blue and purple colors out the sides, which is why they look blue / purple from extreme angles. That said, I can honestly say that the standard lenses in the Tucson do a better job than the stock projectors did in my Tiburon.

The HID kit is a Hi/Lo kit... The bulbs themselves basically have a solenoid setup on the back of them, so when you hit the high beams, the solenoid engages and pulls the whole bulb assembly into the housing, and directly over an opening in the metal bulb housing. You can see the opening in the pictures in the first post.

Here's a good vid of how it works... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ae307K_iQ


QUOTE (normandelli @ Jun 19 2010, 07:53 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=334562

That would be awesome if you could post those pics. I also installed HIDs on my 06 Sonata but since it already had projectors, it worked out just fine. It's something I've been itching to do on the Tucson as well but as you figured, I'm concerned about scattering light all over the place. Good to know there's hope for it.

My experience has only been with H7s as the Sonata's housing has separate low and high beams. How does your kit do low and high?

 

[JaredC01]

Alright, couple more pictures, still taken with my phone, but I was able to adjust the settings to get a more accurate real-world view of the pattern... If I had thought about it before I left for work, I would have taken my cam with me.

Also, it was raining when the pics were taken, which is what's causing the weird light streaks above the pattern. I will say that cutoff pattern isn't 100% clean, but it's exaggerated with the rain pulling a prism effect. Still need to adjust the drivers side bulb left a bit, though I did drop the passenger side beam down a bit.

 

[dan santa fe 08]

thank's man!!!
BIG DAN.

 

[newtech]

Just run into this HID subject. My HID harness's relay has a buzzing sound when in operation. Can anyone comment is this normal ??. I changed 3 different relays, all buzz. Bulbs work OK, ballasts are normal temperature. cool to touch.
TIA.

 

[jeromy]

what year is your tucson and do you drls.I am having all kinds of problems with my hid kit,maybe its the installer ha ha

 

[snackwrap]

The ballasts always buzz. That means its working. When my ballasts wasnt buzzing, my headlight wasnt working and I had to buy a new ballast

 

[Dubs]

Great writeup, this is on my 2 do list.

Dubs

 

[newtech]

About 6-8 months back, my relay buzzing & lights flickering had been cured by installation of a capacitor on the relay. All good

 

[wkl_lau]

Great post! I have a 2011 Tucson and planning to install HID, just wondering if you draw power from battery directly. Also I think our headlight use the same bulb for DRL, low and high, so you need a duel beam I guess. I also heard some HID give error code and cause problem for DRL, so do we need DRL module or code eliminator?
THx

 

[newtech]

Take power directly from battery (fused). Use a relay (In my case also use a capacitor on the relay to eliminate the buzzing). Bulbs should be H4, Hi halogen, Lo xenon. (we need the Drl on high in Canada) Just standard ballasts will do. Dip your beams using the adjusting screws to avoid glaring other.
GL