What is the number of cars in the UK that also have this problem ?
Are you replacing engines in the LF too?The topic of THETA 2 GDI crapping out is like really old news,, been going on for yrs now with 2.4 & 20T GDI knocking or seizing,, and to this day we are still seeing them come in either knocking,, or towed in with engine seized.. story I hear at our place is we done about 80 replacement, I have couple received that motor is here for to do if I can get there to do them
If your Theta pukes, 99% likely Hyundai Motor allow us to replace engine..
The current engine test everybody showing up for,,, what god is test on engine with 20-50,000 mile ?? they dont have any hrs on them,, kinda waste of dealer times, as some end up puking later down road after inspection done when they have more hrs / miles on them
Nope, no WARRANTY engines with LFAAre you replacing engines in the LF too?
Here is pic or 2 of exposed CVVT to show bore with bolt in middle, and the 2 slip rings that brushes ride to apply power to CVVT for advance-retard of cam... see plug in the oil in the bottom of cover,, this is supposed to be a clean - dry zone..... until CVVT plug pop out and flood with oil"Mud motors" are why there are plenty of class actions. These pathetically negligent owners join along with class actions even though they caused their own issues.
I was at training, and fella in class was telling about how they have an engine that was already replaced in past, full of mud,,, and is getting 2nd long block.... help me out here,, everybody in the class room was kinda set back by this
Something like that might need a coat of sealant to keep it in place. But, it makes you wonder what fool approved a press in plug that is required to hold back oil pressure?
Rubber circumferenced plug in a smooth bored hole with some oil behind it..
Couldn't be drilled/tapped for pipe plug?
The bore provides access to bolt holding CVVT to end of camshaft..
Couldn't have a cover with an SST dimple bolted on to hold it in place?
It is in a "dry" zone.. no oil to be inside the cover you see that carry the brushbox..
Automaker denial and stupid engineering are valid issues for class actions.
Exterior plug is a vent,, fill it with enough oil and it'll start to squirt out the hole,, providing the cam plug not cover the hole,, had 1 that pee oil out as engine run in a small stream..how much oil can leak into there? is it enough to overflow and leak into the floor or will it 'burn' while in there?
Do you recommend installing a threaded plug or doing anything as a DIY?Here is pic or 2 of exposed CVVT to show bore with bolt in middle, and the 2 slip rings that brushes ride to apply power to CVVT for advance-retard of cam... see plug in the oil in the bottom of cover,, this is supposed to be a clean - dry zone..... until CVVT plug pop out and flood with oil
I'm not a tech so if you could explain these acronyms;Nope, no WARRANTY engines with LFA
Busy right now with rash of P-010000 cam timing DTC due to cam plug pop out,, thought that was remedy with 2015 recall to set cam plug depth with SST,, now they coming back with plug popped out,,, maybe severe cold goof with oil and pressure on plug, I dont know.. we done upward of 20 maybe in last couple week, I know first of Jan I had 3 to do in 1 sitting, but we only had 2 plug, dealer with no morals sold us an "old" style part with "new part number" on invoice,, I refused to install it,, so number 3 had to wait till next day..
"Dumber" beside me had 1 come in with noise, they bought it used, has cam time codes and rattle near CVVT...... barely oil on dipstick bottom, black thick goo on dipstick, and black goo see when oil cap removed.. we change oil and advised, cleared codes I think, they come back the other day stating MIL illuminated.. told and showed 2 advisors that it a "MUD" motor, and they just going to have to deal with it.. young advisor ask if we should do "PA" Request,, other says NO WAY,, it a mud motor..... Been there, done that, they seen pics on one I had last summer, they (Hyundai "PA") flat out deny request due to lack of maintain.
All above is common used accepted terms used in writing claim,, EXCEPT for "MUD"... then we have use wording like "gel due to lack of maintain"..I'm not a tech so if you could explain these acronyms;
DTC -- Diagnostic Trouble Code
SST -- Special Service Tool
PA -- Prior Authoriazation,, we have to do "PA" Request if we want to replace engine or transmission, or Goodwill repair
MUD -- Sludge, gel, pudding
MIL -- Malfunction Indicator Light
I know what CVVT is.
It's great having an actual Hyundai Master Tech on the forum!
"Mud motors" are why there are plenty of class actions. These pathetically negligent owners join along with class actions even though they caused their own issues. Other automakers felt the pain of stupid judges siding against corporations when the issue was caused by the consumer. I shouldn't have to prove my maintenance if my spotless engine seizes. But, I have no problem for the automaker to request maintenance records when the engine is full of sludge. Sometimes the well maintained engine fails and the good consumer feels the pain caused by the stupid consumer.
Oil pumps have always provided more volume (pressure) with higher rpm. That is what a positive displacement pump does. 10psi hot oil pressure at idle has been the standard on all my vehicles going back 30+ years....and part of how that is done is by using the oil pumps that change volume and pressure based on engine speed. Get the engine nice and hot and then supply it with 10psi at idle.