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Hi there fellow Entourage owners. I need some assistance. I need to know if your van horn honks when you double lock your vehicle. Is it the same sound as your steering wheel horn? I ask because for the last year I have been using this feature everyday to find my van in a crowded parking lot, and even to check the kids shut the van door when they got out. Now my horn has a muted honk after some siding work I had done for rust. The dealership here in Prince George say it never did honk loudly. I see few Entourage around town to check, but the mechanic says he checked today on a van on the lot (suddenly gone when I asked to hear it) and they will not fix it because it isn't broken. Am I going crazy? Have I really heard a loud honk when it was actually a muted one? If I didn't rely on this feature I would say 'Who cares!". My panic button on my fab also produces a muted honk now. Would anyone mind checking on your own vehicles and let me know if this is worth fighting for? I have a 2008 model. Thanks :liebe011:
 

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Hi,

I have a 2008 Entourage and it honks loud/normal when you push the lock button twice, this arms the factory alarm. Same honk sound as if you push the horn on the steering wheel.
 

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Mine is as loud as honking the horn. I have used it to locate the car in large parking structures. I try not to use it late at night where the whole neighborhood will know I'm home.
 

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QUOTE (purplenoni @ Sep 19 2010, 07:31 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=357313
Thanks to you all. I'm going back to raise a little you know what very soon. I'll update as I go.
Mine used to honk the same volume as the car horn.
Last week I took it in for intermittent no start. They did something with the IP module and reprogrammed my keys.
After this my blower and AC would not run anymore. After they fixed that (apparently a wire was not well hooked
back up - it took 2 days), my locked beep is now not as loud as the horn. Still louder than say an Accura TL
double-lock, like a kind of muted horn. The steering wheel horn is still the original loudness.

A friend if mine who used to work at a dealer says that the alarm/keyless-horn has 3 settings from none to low to loud
and that the default is the middle low setting. So if they had reset your "system" at some point it would default to low.
He says the dealer should be able to adjust to loud at your request.

I'm leaving it be as I rather live with this than have them poke around inside my car again unless I really need it.
 

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Your IP Module was replaced for .......... let me guess -----------> you would turn ignition key to crank engine to start and it would not click or crank ??

IP Module has all the keyless entry stuff inside, and that is why they had to program the 3 existing remotes to new module..

There is TSB in regard to the "Anawer back horn logic"....

TSB --

DESCRIPTION:
In some 2007-08 Entourage vehicles, after replacing the Instrument Panel Module (IPM), the horn may not sound when pressing the LOCK button two times on the keyless transmitter.

This TSB provides the procedure to reprogram the IPM using the GDS tool to enable the horn answer back confirmation feature.

Program #144 using GDS to ptogram the module

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There is also a program to update the IP Module for an excess current draw situation after shut down that may leave you with dead battery.

DESCRIPTION:
In some 2007-08 Entourage vehicles, if the ignition key is turned off within 30 seconds after operating the power tailgate, the Instrument Panel Module (IPM) may still remain energized, causing the battery to discharge.

This TSB provides the procedure to reprogram the IPM using the GDS tool to update
the IPM logic.

Program #152 if it comes up on menu...

TSB -T
 

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Yes you are correct. The no crank/no start was what I took the minivan in for.
I even brought in the TSB (got if from this forum) printed out.
However, I am not sure that the dealer actually replaced the IP Module.
The "service advisor" said they will try to reprogram it first, hence needing my keys.
I'm not sure if they had replaced the IPM or not.
Ultimately I shall see if the no start happens again.
This is a 2007 and the no start had never occurred until last month. Then it happened twice
within 5 weeks.
 

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QUOTE (sunjwd @ Sep 24 2010, 02:20 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=358407
Yes you are correct. The no crank/no start was what I took the minivan in for.
I even brought in the TSB (got if from this forum) printed out.
However, I am not sure that the dealer actually replaced the IP Module.
The "service advisor" said they will try to reprogram it first, hence needing my keys.
Re-program has nothing to do with it,


I'm not sure if they had replaced the IPM or not.
Drop the fuse panel cover, and see if you can visi=ual the part number label on the fuse block.. it will be 91954-4Dxxx-FFF....
Look for the "FFF" at end of part number, if yes, they changed the part, but it should evident on receipt undern the "PARTS" column that the part number is charged to the ticket... what does your invoice say in the job line that says "Customer states car will not start " ..

Ultimately I shall see if the no start happens again.
This is a 2007 and the no start had never occurred until last month.

Then it happened twice within 5 weeks.
See comment above about reading your customer invoice and look at parts charged to ticket, allong with visual of part number tag on the IP Module..
IP Module is the fuse block there at lower left dash, pop the small access panel off and have a look at number tag
 

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QUOTE (sbr711 @ Sep 24 2010, 07:37 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=358432
IP Module is the fuse block there at lower left dash, pop the small access panel off and have a look at number tag
Mine is a 2007 Entourage (in Canada if it makes a difference).
Popping the small lower left dash panel (labelled "Fuse") reveals only
fuses and a black cube (starter?). Anyhow, no IPM. The map on the back
of the popped off panel also does not refer to IPM.
There is another bunch of fuses under the hood. I'll look there later.

They didn't give me a bill or invoice, I imagine because the vehicle is still under warranty.
 

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QUOTE (sunjwd @ Sep 25 2010, 11:18 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=358797
Mine is a 2007 Entourage (in Canada if it makes a difference).
Popping the small lower left dash panel (labelled "Fuse") reveals only
fuses and a black cube (starter?). Anyhow, no IPM. The map on the back
of the popped off panel also does not refer to IPM.
The IPM is the fuse block there in the dash you was looking at, I didn't remember if you could see the number tag on it or not,,, but look again, this time peeking around under dash to see if you can see a white label on the block with the part number on it.

There is another bunch of fuses under the hood. I'll look there later.
Wrong block, I want to say that one is the "FAM"

They didn't give me a bill or invoice, I imagine because the vehicle is still under warranty.
Everybody is supposed to get a receipt.. DO NOT LEAVE WITHOUT PAPERWORK !!
 

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QUOTE (purplenoni @ Sep 13 2010, 03:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=356032
Hi there fellow Entourage owners. I need some assistance. I need to know if your van horn honks when you double lock your vehicle. Is it the same sound as your steering wheel horn? Thanks :liebe011:
Sure does. Wasn't always that way. It's much weaker sounding. Meant to look into it, seems this thread answers it.
 

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UPDATE -Correction for part number tag....

We have an Entourage in today for "NO CRANK" concerns,, works currently... remembering this topic and part number tag issue, I went and had a look...

The part number tag is striaght up on face of module... remove the small panel on dash with "FUSE" on it.. have to lay on floor and use light to see straight up above the fuses on the flat area up there, you can see the white sticker with part number.. The part number is upside down, so look carefully,, the one we have doe not have the "-FFF" at end of part number, so we likely going to install a new IPM...
 

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QUOTE (sbr711 @ Sep 30 2010, 09:26 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=359843
UPDATE -Correction for part number tag....

We have an Entourage in today for "NO CRANK" concerns,, works currently... remembering this topic and part number tag issue, I went and had a look...

The part number tag is striaght up on face of module... remove the small panel on dash with "FUSE" on it.. have to lay on floor and use light to see straight up above the fuses on the flat area up there, you can see the white sticker with part number.. The part number is upside down, so look carefully,, the one we have doe not have the "-FFF" at end of part number, so we likely going to install a new IPM...
This is a very useful post for me. I had no idea where to look. When I used your trick I can see that there is a white
sticker with a barcode on it way inside up the fuse panel. Unfortunately I was not able to read the number from the angle I was at. I'll try finding
some kind of dental mirror or something.
 

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QUOTE (sunjwd @ Sep 30 2010, 10:21 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=360007
This is a very useful post for me. I had no idea where to look. When I used your trick I can see that there is a white
sticker with a barcode on it way inside up the fuse panel. Unfortunately I was not able to read the number from the angle I was at. I'll try finding
some kind of dental mirror or something.
Ok I saw most of the part number following your hints: 91955-4Dxxx-0E
 

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QUOTE (sbr711 @ Sep 23 2010, 10:09 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=358382
Your IP Module was replaced for .......... let me guess -----------> you would turn ignition key to crank engine to start and it would not click or crank ??

IP Module has all the keyless entry stuff inside, and that is why they had to program the 3 existing remotes to new module..

There is TSB in regard to the "Anawer back horn logic"....

TSB --

DESCRIPTION:
In some 2007-08 Entourage vehicles, after replacing the Instrument Panel Module (IPM), the horn may not sound when pressing the LOCK button two times on the keyless transmitter.

This TSB provides the procedure to reprogram the IPM using the GDS tool to enable the horn answer back confirmation feature.

Program #144 using GDS to ptogram the module

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There is also a program to update the IP Module for an excess current draw situation after shut down that may leave you with dead battery.

DESCRIPTION:
In some 2007-08 Entourage vehicles, if the ignition key is turned off within 30 seconds after operating the power tailgate, the Instrument Panel Module (IPM) may still remain energized, causing the battery to discharge.

This TSB provides the procedure to reprogram the IPM using the GDS tool to update
the IPM logic.

Program #152 if it comes up on menu...

TSB -T

My Hyundai dealership service department has informed me that the muted, weak, pathetic horn is a byproduct of the latest program update for the excessive draw campaign.
I initially took the vehicle in for a drivers side door actuator in-op. They changed that. Had some intermittent problems with the vehicle alarm answer back working. They found a bad ground and they fixed that.
Problem still existed when I picked vehicle up, so they trouble shot to a bad horn relay and replaced that.
Still no joy, so they replaced the horn and turned up the volume all the way. Still making weak, muted answer back.
They called the 800 number for technical service and the tech told them the problem was caused by the program update and there is nothing else they can do.
The dealership seems as confused by this as me. Is there anything else that I can ask them to look at, check into before calling the 800 customer service number?
The alarm and answer back feature are both jacked up now and you can't hear it in a crowded parking lot unless your standing next to the hood.
Thanks for any insight you can provide.

Dave
 

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QUOTE (heit @ Oct 27 2010, 05:34 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=366783
My Hyundai dealership service department has informed me that the muted, weak, pathetic horn is a byproduct of the latest program update for the excessive draw campaign.
I initially took the vehicle in for a drivers side door actuator in-op. They changed that. Had some intermittent problems with the vehicle alarm answer back working. They found a bad ground and they fixed that.
Problem still existed when I picked vehicle up, so they trouble shot to a bad horn relay and replaced that.
Still no joy, so they replaced the horn and turned up the volume all the way. Still making weak, muted answer back.
They called the 800 number for technical service and the tech told them the problem was caused by the program update and there is nothing else they can do.
The dealership seems as confused by this as me. Is there anything else that I can ask them to look at, check into before calling the 800 customer service number?
The alarm and answer back feature are both jacked up now and you can't hear it in a crowded parking lot unless your standing next to the hood.
Thanks for any insight you can provide.

Dave
But I have not come across such strange, my sensors are perfect.
 
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