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It looks an awful lot like the Sonata, just smaller. And i wouldn't doubt if it was spot on copy of the new Accent coming out soon..... opinions?









 

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First, if that's a copy, they did a lousy job. That car is fugly.

Second, hasn't the Fiesta been available in Europe for a while now?
 

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QUOTE (midas69 @ Apr 30 2010, 01:36 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=318256
Second, hasn't the Fiesta been available in Europe for a while now?
You are correct. The Ford Fiesta has been in constant production oversars since 1976. It was sold in the US from 1976 - 1980 until the Escort was released, then it was only sold overseas. The current generation of the car is the 6th generation and although it will be new to the US, its been in production since the 2008 model year.
 

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In fairness, all makes imitate some aspects of design from one or the other. The thing to remember is that appealing designs are in the eyes of the beholder :) Since Ford is one of the brands I happen to like I think that bodes well if Ford chooses to borrow a bit here and there from Hyundai's successful fluidic design language.

You never know, maybe Hyundai's design may soon become the industry trendsetter!
 

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They don't call them design cues for nothing. Back in the late 80's everyone thought that FOMOCO borrowed the design of the then groundbreaking Taurus from the Audi 5000. Of course they didn't since a car can take as long as 60 months from idea to showroom. That time frame wouldn't have allowed for copying.

I think Hyundai got some cues from the Mercedes CLS for certain and brought it down from the stratosphere for the common man to be able to buy something that is more than a bread box. Honda, Toyota, GM and Ford are you listening? How many bread and butter sedans can you say have created passion? Not too many.

I haven't personally felt this way about a sedan since the 1996 Mercury Sable. I thought FOMOCO did a fantastic job with that vehicle, it evoked passion in me.
 

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QUOTE (Bingo Steve @ Apr 30 2010, 05:42 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=318316
They don't call them design cues for nothing. Back in the late 80's everyone thought that FOMOCO borrowed the design of the then groundbreaking Taurus from the Audi 5000. Of course they didn't since a car can take as long as 60 months from idea to showroom. That time frame wouldn't have allowed for copying.

I think Hyundai got some cues from the Mercedes CLS for certain and brought it down from the stratosphere for the common man to be able to buy something that is more than a bread box. Honda, Toyota, GM and Ford are you listening? How many bread and butter sedans can you say have created passion? Not too many.

I haven't personally felt this way about a sedan since the 1996 Mercury Sable. I thought FOMOCO did a fantastic job with that vehicle, it evoked passion in me.
Ford has it figured out (now at least). I love a lot of their newer vehicles. Especially the Flex - the Fusion isn't too bland itself. GM is doing much better than it was, but they still aren't there yet. Honda/Toyota - not so much. All their cars are boring. Nissan went to sh*t when they decided to force CVT in everything.
 

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QUOTE (jfulcher @ Apr 30 2010, 05:08 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=318309
I love my Hyundai Sonata and all, but it's a complete rip of a few cars already out there. They aren't setting any trends - they are following them.
I think "rip" is a very extreme pejorative term to use. Because when you look at the 2011 Sonata, you can't say that it looks exactly like anything else out there. There are definitely design cues taken from other brands, but the same can be said of the Toyota, Honda and Nissan. Each of which have borrowed to one degree or another elements from Mercedes, BMW and Audi.
 

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A year or so ago, after the Mercedes CLS came out, I'd often look out my balcony at a white Toyota Solara parked in the lot across the street. Many was the time I'd think, ' As big as that thing is someone ought to put some back doors on it too.'...Then came the first pics of '11 Sonata and I said *#@*&!!, they made a four door Solara._Now I see the Sonata as the fully developed, refined and fully defined version of the embryonic Solara. (I'm looking at that Solara as I write this.)
 

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QUOTE (Hues @ Apr 30 2010, 07:08 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=318345
A year or so ago, after the Mercedes CLS came out, I'd often look out my balcony at a white Toyota Solara parked in the lot across the street. Many was the time I'd think, ' As big as that thing is someone ought to put some back doors on it too.'...Then came the first pics of '11 Sonata and I said *#@*&!!, they made a four door Solara._Now I see the Sonata as the fully developed, refined and fully defined version of the embryonic Solara. (I'm looking at that Solara as I write this.)
Funny, because I don't see any Solara, :57: although I've heard that comment before. In my eyes, I see hints of the Volkswagen CC this is what comes to mind and I also see a bit of Mercedes CLS.
 

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In my mind, the progression goes like this:

1. - Mercedes creates the CLS, a swoopy and cool sedan.

2. - VW decides this is a great idea, and rebodies the Passat as the CC to take advantage of the "everyman" market for such a car.

3. - Hyundai builds a similar design but without the atrocious VW quality/reliability/customer service nightmares. Add a 274hp dual scroll turbo that gets 34mpg, and I show up.

-R

PS - Can you tell I owned a couple of VWs?
 

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QUOTE (optflv @ Apr 30 2010, 09:07 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=318370
3. - Hyundai builds a similar design but without the atrocious VW quality/reliability/customer service nightmares. Add a 274hp dual scroll turbo that gets 34mpg, and I show up.

-R

PS - Can you tell I owned a couple of VWs?
haha so have I, only I came to Hyundai a few years ago (when I bought a 2004 Elantra GT hatchback) as my 2000 Jetta caused one headache after another. In hindsight I never should've sold my 85 nor my 95 VW Golf. Ohh well, the 2000 Jetta looked puuuurrrtttyyy (when it wasn't in the shop). :whistling:
 

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Wow, if you took the emblems off, i probably couldn't tell the difference in the accent/fiesta comparison
 

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QUOTE (jfulcher @ May 1 2010, 10:39 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=318499
Take the Korean glasses off. The focus was out before the Avante was probably drawn out.
So you're saying the 2011 focus was out longer before the 2011 accent/avante was ever drawn on paper?? That's an interesting theory.

But actually on this page, we're not talking about the focus. We're talking about the fiesta. Which i promise you looked nothing like the accent in the past.
 
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