[bkim84]

Car has a weird shaking or vibrating coming from the middle or the rear of the car, I can't really describe it. You can only notice it at low speeds, and it's only noticable after you drive for a while, it doesn't happen immediately. It happens whether you press on the brake or not, just while driving. I'm not sure how I should handle the situation either. I changed my rotors and brake pads because I thought that might have been the problem, but it turned out it wasn't.

I took it to the dealer, they said it was the end links that were loose so they changed that. It didn't fix the problem. I took the car back, and they checked it out, they couldn't locate the problem. They put it on the lift, said it wasn't the sway bar, suspension, etc.

They said because I didn't change the "brake pad clips"(I'm not sure what to call them), and they appear to be the original ones that came with the car, I'm not really sure if they are or not, but I know the brake pads were changed once, but maybe that wasn't changed, I need to change them first, and since they looked for a problem and don't want to waste more of their time (basically what they told me, they will start charging me to find the problem now), they will charge me $159 labor + $20 for the part + tax to change it. Now it may or may not fix the problem, that may not be the problem at all, and if it doesn't fix it then I'm out almost $200 for no reason. They said they don't want to waste time, and it's ridiculous to look for a problem with my car. But the problem is it's a vibration or a shaking, and I would think that SHOULD be covered by the warranty.

Should I try taking this to a different dealer, and pretty much never go back there again? Get the part changed myself at a different mechanic shop, as I don't see a reason to spend $179 + tax at Hyundai.

 

[sbr711]

Vibration while in motion comes from something in motion ..... tires would be first, then bent wheel..

Everthing you mention is stationary, it dont move.

 

[NFV6]

QUOTE (MrBrian @ Aug 27 2010, 07:57 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=352411

They said they don't want to waste time, and it's ridiculous to look for a problem with my car. But the problem is it's a vibration or a shaking, and I would think that SHOULD be covered by the warranty.

Should I try taking this to a different dealer, and pretty much never go back there again? Get the part changed myself at a different mechanic shop, as I don't see a reason to spend $179 + tax at Hyundai.

You can't go from Dealer to Dealer for the same type of claim, and expect to be taken care of unless you authorize some sort of shop charge, and of course

if they do find something at the new Dealer it will be applied to the cost of your repair. Who knows the other Dealer might not know what they were doing.

Remember the warranty is Limited in scope and nature, and it does sound like that the Dealer tried to do everything Humanely possible!

 

[mamamia]

That's what this forum is for, so you DON'T waste your time and money, frustrating yourself at dealers.

But you also have to spend some time, conduct some tests yourself.... Is there a pattern, is the vibration occurring at a certain speed, or speed range, what is the RPM showing? What happen when while vibrating you touch the brakes? is there any noise? Is the A/C on? If so, what happens if you turn it off while the car vibrates? Try shifting manually, pay attention if the vibration has anything to do with a certain gear....

SBR's idea makes a lot of sense (but of course, he's a pro...), so maybe rotate the tires and notice a change in the vibrations? But also, while doing so (which s.b. inexpensive and done by any mechanic), when the car is up, rotate each tire (keep car in Neutral) so you can check if it's not bent....

Come back with your findings.....

 

[sbr711]

QUOTE (mamamia @ Aug 27 2010, 09:36 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=352437

SBR's idea makes a lot of sense (but of course, he's a pro...)
Not this week ... bad week


so maybe rotate the tires and notice a change in the vibrations? But also, while doing so (which s.b. inexpensive and done by any mechanic), when the car is up, rotate each tire (keep car in Neutral) so you can check if it's not bent....
Put the car up, and and watch the tire go round with engine running in gear.... put the car up so you can stand there and see the tread/wheel as it go around.. We get cars all the time where owner says rolling slowly the steering wheel wobble back and forth... thats a given the the tires are out of round/deformed, up in air and verify.. rears will have the car/seat of pants wiggle effect..

Putting wheels-tire on balancer and watch them rotate is good too, other than cover on some machines blocks view from top.

Come back with your findings.....

 

[bkim84]

It's not a typical vibration it vibrates or like gives a shake occasionally.

I do not have the tools to lift the car and try it like that. Anybody have any recommendations on where I can get that done in New York? Thanks

 

[mamamia]

If this vibration comes and goes, again, you need time to LEARN when and why it does it, what happens at that time,could it be shifting at the same time, is it recurring at a certain speed? Certain RPM?

Regardless, checking your wheels and tires should not be that complex... Wherever you change your oil (unless you use the dealer for your oil changes), ask the guy to lift the car, should be a matter of 10 minutes, how much can they charge you for that?

 

[bkim84]

You guys are such Hyundai lovers.

A vibrating sound should be covered under warranty, they should find the problem. If it's a part thats not covered, I should have to pay, pretty simple really. Not everyone has a lift, not everyone's a mechanic. Just because half of you guys work for the dealership doesn't mean we have to learn what the problem is ourselves. When it's under warranty, something that is potentially dangerous should be found by Hyundai.

 

[NFV6]

QUOTE (MrBrian @ Aug 29 2010, 02:21 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=352688

You guys are such Hyundai lovers.

A vibrating sound should be covered under warranty, they should find the problem. If it's a part thats not covered, I should have to pay, pretty simple really. Not everyone has a lift, not everyone's a mechanic. Just because half of you guys work for the dealership doesn't mean we have to learn what the problem is ourselves. When it's under warranty, something that is potentially dangerous should be found by Hyundai.

Yeah in a perfect World, right Brian :innocent: You get 12 Months or 12,000 miles as the adjustment period. After that you are on your own.

Of course the Warranty is still good for up to 100K, but the world does not spin around Brian! Now if you had a "Bumper to Bumper" Warranty

then I would agree with you. :thumbsup:

 

[mamamia]

QUOTE (MrBrian @ Aug 29 2010, 01:21 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=352688

You guys are such Hyundai lovers.

A vibrating sound should be covered under warranty, they should find the problem. If it's a part thats not covered, I should have to pay, pretty simple really. Not everyone has a lift, not everyone's a mechanic. Just because half of you guys work for the dealership doesn't mean we have to learn what the problem is ourselves. When it's under warranty, something that is potentially dangerous should be found by Hyundai.

Hey, Brian, we're here to help you, and anybody else with issues, as we come here for help with ours, Brian.

Nobody is patronizing you, only ONE of us here works for a dealership --- and we're LUCKY to have him.....

Having a warranty does NOT promise you EVERY Hyundai service shop is capable of FINDING the cause of every issue. Some of them guys are better than others, just like plumbers or doctors. Sometime the problem has nothing to do with the quality of production. If you bent your wheel going into a pothole it has nothing to do with Hyundai or even the dealership.

Going to a local shop, raising the car like they'll do for an oil change, and rotating each wheel is NOT such a difficult, expensive thing to do.

That is, if you're interested in solving the problem, rather than bitching.

 

[bkim84]

I'm going to go to a tire shop, and ask them to spin each wheel individually. Should I be able to hear the noise then?

The noise honestly got much worse after bringing it to the dealer. It's far more rampant, although maybe that is just from time. An easier way to describe the sound would actually be a clicking sound. I also notice that I can hear it up to 45mph it appears, before it wouldn't show up past 10.

Occasionally like right after I stop, I am able to hear and feel the sound (I have someone inside the car), if I shake the back of the car sideways, pushing it with my body. I can hear it quite often while I am moving, and after stopping i.e. the car rocks and that is when the sound is heard.

 

[mamamia]

We wouldn't know if you'll hear any sound while the car is up and each wheel is rotated, but you sure should try listening...

Have the car up to a height where the mechanic can grab each wheel and try to wobble and shake it (push and pull). This is actually a common thing for a car mechanic to check.

 

[bkim84]

QUOTE (mamamia @ Aug 29 2010, 11:12 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=352887

We wouldn't know if you'll hear any sound while the car is up and each wheel is rotated, but you sure should try listening...

Have the car up to a height where the mechanic can grab each wheel and try to wobble and shake it (push and pull). This is actually a common thing for a car mechanic to check.

I took the car to the mechanic, they spun the wheels, wobbled it, shook it, took it on, off, checked the brake pad holders, they said it wasn't that. At first when the guy drove it, he thought it was the suspension, but said it's tight so that doesn't make sense. They took off the nuts, greased them, and tightened them, so it shouldn't be any loose nuts.

I'm reading online, is it possible that it is the CV Joint?

 

[mamamia]

QUOTE (MrBrian @ Aug 31 2010, 10:34 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=353450

I took the car to the mechanic, they spun the wheels, wobbled it, shook it, took it on, off, checked the brake pad holders, they said it wasn't that. At first when the guy drove it, he thought it was the suspension, but said it's tight so that doesn't make sense. They took off the nuts, greased them, and tightened them, so it shouldn't be any loose nuts.

I'm reading online, is it possible that it is the CV Joint?

I'd guess if the CV joints were bad your mechanic would have noticed something when doing all that wobbling and shaking.... But I'm not good enough to say it for sure....

A vibration at a certain speed can be tricky to detect... Something slightly loose can resonate at a certain speed with the slight vibration of something else in the car. Are you sure it's not related to the steering system, and the front wheels?

 

[sbr711]

Shake under load at speed..... stops when you lift foot off accell pedal ??

Bum Axle will act that way... You put the power down and it shakes good, lift and it stops right then and there.... you gots axle problem..

Just got axle replaced in wife' van in June at end of her 5/60..

 

[bkim84]

I think this might be it.

How can I get the axle checked out? Can I go to a different dealership because the one I went to does not want to work on my car any longer I assume, they told me they will start charging me $109 an hour to look for the problem. Should I bring it to a mechanic and ask them to inspect it and then go to a dealership, or can I just go to a different one and ask them to check it out?

 

[sbr711]

QUOTE (MrBrian @ Sep 1 2010, 10:51 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=353729

I think this might be it.

How can I get the axle checked out? Can I go to a different dealership because the one I went to does not want to work on my car any longer I assume, they told me they will start charging me $109 an hour to look for the problem. Should I bring it to a mechanic and ask them to inspect it and then go to a dealership, or can I just go to a different one and ask them to check it out?

If you think it is a warranty concern and criteria fits, you is FREE to visit any authoriazed Hyundai franchise in the USA ( I assume you is USA)...

If deemed not warranty, somebody going to pay, techs dont like to work for free.... do you ?

 

[mamamia]

QUOTE (sbr711 @ Sep 2 2010, 09:28 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=353800

If you think it is a warranty concern and criteria fits, you is FREE to visit any authoriazed Hyundai franchise in the USA ( I assume you is USA)...

If deemed not warranty, somebody going to pay, techs dont like to work for free.... do you ?

Question is, sbr, should the axle in his car be covered under the car's original powertrain warranty..... I would think so, no?

 

[sbr711]

QUOTE (mamamia @ Sep 2 2010, 05:01 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=353888

Question is, sbr, should the axle in his car be covered under the car's original powertrain warranty..... I would think so, no?

I would have to ask the 1/2 a$$ power 1 step above me... I want to say yes, as it is dipped in oil at the transmission.... BUT I could be wrong too... I aint the brightest bulb on the string sometimes you know.. :thumbsup:

 

[krellmk]

QUOTE (MrBrian @ Sep 1 2010, 10:51 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=353729

I think this might be it.

How can I get the axle checked out? Can I go to a different dealership because the one I went to does not want to work on my car any longer I assume, they told me they will start charging me $109 an hour to look for the problem. Should I bring it to a mechanic and ask them to inspect it and then go to a dealership, or can I just go to a different one and ask them to check it out?

What part of New York you are in?