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I was just pondering on whether all this fancy engineering we are blessed with, actually has much benefit to the end user .


MG Metro

1275 cc, 73 hp (54 kW) at 6000 rpm and 73 ft•lbf (99 Nm) at 4000 rpm
Bore & Stroke: 70.61 mm x 81.28mm
0-60mph, 12.2 seconds, maximum speed, 100mph (source: Autocar)
Dry Weight – 840 Kg
Tyres : 165/60 R13


Hyundai I10
1248 cc 77 bhp at 6000 rpm and / 86. 8 lb/ft (117.7 Nm) at 4000 rpm
Bore & Stroke 71mm x 78.8mm
0 - 62 mph (acceleration) 12.8 seconds Maximum Speed 102 mph
Dry weight – 1010 Kg
Tyres 165/ 60 R14

Metro a cast iron lump about as crude as can be, the I10 state of the art. Interestingly the I10's Kappa is notable under square

Yet the performance is virtually the same.

Not intending to start a squabble, just an interesting aside.
 

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I wasn't really comparing them as vehicles. Just the engines. Two completely contrasting designs, yet achieved similar results.

On the point of emmisions - thats a bit of a moot point. I have it on the authority of an MoT tester than many well set up old engines actually
don't produce a great deal more than a new "all singing" lump. Apparently a new engine produces a considerable amout more gas "throughput" and whilst there are less pollutants per cubic metre, as there is a lot more of it, the total amount isn't much different.

Of course this cannot be the case or we all would have been conned all these years. And that surely cannot be true! Could it?

Also the Metro tended to suffer from clutch judder which may be familiar to some.

Stupet11 - I owner a Montego Turbo - I remember dangerous, but by heck it did not half go (as long as the road was straight, flat and dry.) Accelerate - it turned left, lift of - right. Fun if one has to change up half way past a truck.
 

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The difference in weight is surprising, although it must be remembered that the MG was only a 3 door. I wouldnt fancy being in a accident in one.

Cannot agree about them going out of tune. By the time of the metro, BL had finally improved the A Series significantly. (It only took them a bit over 30 years!!)
It had a hydraulic cam chain adjuster and many other bits. And a simple SU carb. that would run for years and was simple to tweek. Main problem seemed to be quality and consistence. I had a friend with a humble 1300 Marina that would cruise easily at 80. However I owned a Metro would would need to be driven of beachy head to acheive the same.

Tho' it has to be said, they always started, always ran and always got you home.
 
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