[bitkahuna]

Using android auto while listening to XM, or radio is a pain, it always wants to start playing audio from AA instead of giving me the choice. You have to go through a not obvious set of keys.

Maybe because I typically don't have my music app running on my (Android) phone but connecting it doesn't cut out sirius radio.

Voice commands in blue link are about useless, almost never work, Simple things like make a call etc.

Mine works great! "Call <name>" works every time. "Go work" works every time. "Find address in Florida" followed by the address has worked every time. "Find Starbucks" always works.

The cruise control calibration is off. It is way to aggressive on trying to control speed on down hills. It slows down too much.

What are 'hills'? I'm in Florida.

Auto speed in cruise, totally useless since it only allows the speed limit to be set. At least in MO it is pretty unsafe to run the speed limit on the highway. The auto speed should allow a speed limit + something (9 for me). Ford does that.

Hm, i didn't even know it had a way to go the speed limit, i just use SCC with a speed i set. You probably know but holding the speed lever on the wheel makes it go up or down 5mph. Works great.

A super bummer for me is the mileage, nowhere near the rated mileage. I bought the car because it was supposed to get 28 on the Hwy. If I drive super conservative I might get 25. In normal driving it is usually down in the 22's with mostly highway driving. Very very speed sensitive, 60 to 80 is a very big difference.

EPA ratings are not at 80mph. At 60-65 i get about 26. Yeah at 75 i get less. Mixed driving, get about 21. Not great but the Calligraphy's are AWD which probably hurts too.

Inconsistent behavior when the LKA assist gives up. Sometimes it will chime and other times it will turn off and start drifting with no notice to the driver. It should really give you the option of being alerted when it is going to give up. I would make it optional so you have a choice. This behavior without the HUD would be much worse, with the HUD at least you get a visual indication that LKA is checking out.

If you use the LFA (lower left button on right side of wheel) it makes LKA noticeably more accurate.

The wife was driving it early on when it started losing power, ended up doing 35 on the hwy. Called me in a panic, car has a mind of it's own yada yada, No warnings of any kind were displayed. She starts yelling I want my old simple santa fe back. Had her shut the car down and restart it, a reboot (I'm in IT). That fixed it. Brought it to the dealer, found nothing, a bit disconcerting, it has not reoccurred.

Maybe a dumb thought but maybe there was dirt on the radar sensor?

 

[Tom Karez]

It's in the vehicle to get better fuel economy ratings. It so easily starts up it doesn't bother me although if it's hot out there's not a lot of air blowing while the engine is off.



Your wheels look good but I actually like the funky 19s and the better ride comfort.

I do think that the 19's likely do have a better ride, more sidewall to soak up the bumps, just can't get over the look. The start stop is not all that bad. If you do not turn on auto-hold the vehicle starts when you remove your foot from the brake, in auto-hold mode you do need to step on the gas. You can turn it off but you have to every time, I don't bother. As far as the mileage improving I would say I am past any point of measurable improvement. I have 5k miles on the car, did a very conservative drive to work this AM and got 22.9. 36 miles mostly hwy and fairly flat terrain. It is supposed to get 28 on the hwy, nearly a 20% shortfall. The old Santa Fe would get over 30 on this drive. Even considering it might get a 1 or 2% improvement with any further break-in it will not get anywhere near. I get this thing is a turbo and all but it simply is not going to come close to it's rating no matter what unless you drive hypermiling drafting 18 wheelers all the time. I guess the old adage that nothing is free is still true here, a lot more power = less mileage (compared to the old Santa Fe). I am bitter on this topic as I do a lot of driving and mileage was a big deal to me and had I known I was going to get low 20's I would not have bought. I expected if I drove conservatively I would meet or exceed the rating. Most of the vehicles that I have bought in the last few years do come pretty close to rated numbers (or beat them) if driven conservatively, not the case here.

 

[rambokid]

Mpg from 1 drive is extremely inaccurate. Report back when at least 3/4 tank is used. Also, ensure the reading is reset after a fillup.

 

[bitkahuna]

did a very conservative drive to work this AM and got 22.9. 36 miles mostly hwy and fairly flat terrain. It is supposed to get 28 on the hwy, nearly a 20% shortfall.

Good info, 3 questions:
1) what would say your average speed was on highway?
2) did you use cruise control?
3) were you in sport mode or comfort?

No judgment, just saying things like that matter a lot.
I love cruise control for example but it's been shown to not get the best gas mileage because it accelerates on hills to keep the speed at the set point. A more efficient way of driving (maybe annoying to other cars around though!) is to not use cruise and accelerate on the down slopes and let the car coast as much as possible going up slopes.

I am bitter on this topic as I do a lot of driving and mileage was a big deal to me and had I known I was going to get low 20's I would not have bought.

Well i feel the vehicle is several thousand less expensive than competitors for what you get, so that pays for a lot of gas.

In 3 years my next car will be electric so no more gas, but for now, i don't care.

 

[petreza]

Auto speed in cruise, totally useless since it only allows the speed limit to be set. At least in MO it is pretty unsafe to run the speed limit on the highway. The auto speed should allow a speed limit + something (9 for me). Ford does that.

Hm, i didn't even know it had a way to go the speed limit, i just use SCC with a speed i set. You probably know but holding the speed lever on the wheel makes it go up or down 5mph. Works great.

Could you please elaborate on a bit more on this:

Is Tom Karez talking about "Regular" Cruise Control?
I know that the car can recognize the posted speed limit (might also have it built-in into the navigation system). Say, the speed limit is 70mph and you set your "Regular" Cruise Control to 70. If the speed limit changes to 55mph, does the car automatically slow down to 55? If the speed limit becomes 70mph again, does the car automatically resume the 70mph driving? Is Tom saying that "Regular" Cruise Control does not allow you to set a higher cruise control speed limit than what the car "knows" to be the road speed limit?

Is Smart Cruise Control (SCC) bound by the same limitations as above? Can you set SCC higher than the posted road speed limit? If so, are you bound in how much higher you can go?

I am a big fan of the SCC idea, but not if I am forced to drive at the posted speed limit - the way people drive around here, that would be unsafe - I would get rear-ended.

I was aware of the silent LFA dropout issue - in a way I get their point - you are always supposed to be steering the vehicle - LFA should be there just to keep you better centered in the lane. But that's the theory. In practice, you would get used to LFA's help and your reaction time would get much slower. An optional warning chime every time it drops out is all we want. It is great to know that the HUD mitigates this issue somewhat, but that's only on the Calligraphy.

I hope the SCC issue is not as bad as I currently understand it to be based on the above. Else it would be a shame, because I really like the 2021 Santa Fe Calligraphy and am seriously considering it.

 

[GCyr42]

I've had my 2021 SF Calligraphy about 3 weeks and drove to Hagerstown, MD today where I passed 3 school zones that have speed cameras set up in their school zones. I was very familiar with their locations because my Escort radar detector also alerts on them. If you haven't passed any of these speed camera systems yet, or don't have the setting enabled in your Gen5Wide navigation system (10.25" navigation screen), the navigation system will warn you when you approach these speed cameras. I suspect this warning only applies to stationary, fixed speed cameras and probably not to construction zone mobile speed cameras. Unless our navigation system is somehow getting this data on a regular basis.

I don't know if this setting is enabled by default because I made a bunch of setting the day I bought the vehicle, but the setting can be found and the alert enabled/disabled along with the alert distance setting for Local Roads and Freeway here on the Gen5Wide navigation system:
Home
Setup
Navigation
Alerts
Camera Alert Distance

It's a shame Hyundai doesn't provide more information on what settings are available and their purpose in the DIS Navigation & Information System Reference Guide.

//Edit//
I forgot to mention that I wasn't navigating a route when this happened. I just had the map and Sirius/XM displaying on the screen.

 

[Penywisexx]

On straight highway I averaged 27.8 going cross country in my AWD limited. I was averaging 75mph, I did this on 3 tanks of gas over a 1200 mile trip, with elevation changes going from 700 feet up to 7k and back down. This was done in Smart mode, drove around Phoenix for a week (600 miles) and averaged about 24mpg. Drove back 1200 miles up and down over hills and averaged 27mpg with an extra 500 pounds of passengers and luggage in the car in comfort mode. I'm surprised your MPG is so bad, it may be driving style or something to do with your car. In my normal driving around town (about half city and half highway) I average about 23mpg. The auto shutoff for the engine is on every new car now, required due to fuel economy standards, the only cars you won't notice it on are hybrids (they will start from a stop soothly so you won't notice the engine kick on). There are a few new cars without them still but it's only because they haven't been redesigned in the last 4-5 years, they'll have them soon enough.

 

[bitkahuna]

Penywisexx, thanks for sharing. Does your limited have the turbo engine?

 

[njerald]

LOL

 

[ST_Master]

Penywisexx, thanks for sharing. Does your limited have the turbo engine?

All '21 Limited have the turbo. LOL.

 

[Jamie Vail]

To the OP, if gas mileage was you goal, Why did you get the thirstiest motor in the heaviest version of the Santa Fe? I just averaged 30.2 mpg (on my 2.4L) on a 2 way trip from Tallahassee to Atlanta. Mixed Highway and by-way with Interstate and backroads. 93 octane. AC was used for most of the trip, but not all of it.

 

[petreza]

I'd appreciate an answer to my "Regular" vs Smart Cruise Control concern, as it is a deal-braker for me.
My post is just a few posts back.
Thanks!

 

[Jamie Vail]

I'd appreciate an answer to my "Regular" vs Smart Cruise Control concern, as it is a deal-braker for me.
My post is just a few posts back.
Thanks!

Maybe ask the dealership you plan to use. I do NOT know the to answer your question, but I will try.
What I do know is that I can set my CC to whatever speed I want, regardless of the set speed limit set by the city/state I happen to be driving in. But I drive the SE with less options available. My "smart cruise control" only slows the car when another car crosses over into my lane and is within a certain distance of the car.( too close ). Where as "regular" CC doesn't adjust the speed would FCA would/should sound an alarm if you get too close to the car in front of you.

 

[HockeyFan66]

I'd appreciate an answer to my "Regular" vs Smart Cruise Control concern, as it is a deal-braker for me.
My post is just a few posts back.
Thanks!

I think this may help you understand how it works. There is an option that lets you have the system use the speed that is stored in the nav system IF you want.

 

[petreza]

Maybe ask the dealership you plan to use. I do NOT know the to answer your question, but I will try.
What I do know is that .....

I think this may help you understand how it works. There is an option that lets you have the system use the speed that is stored in the nav system IF you want.....

Great! Thanks!