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Where did you find information on a 2018 Kona? Are you referring to the 2019 Kona Electric? It does appear that the Kona Electric will not have a sunroof as an option.
 

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Let me clarify no sunroof on the 2019 Kona. I was told by a dealer who had an inter working Hyundai PDF of the 2019 Kona. I was buying a Limited and he knew it was my max price I wanted to spend. So it could be he was referring to the Limited and maybe the Ultimate will have it. I know the Limited will not have a sun roof in 2019.
 

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Let me clarify no sunroof on the 2019 Kona. I was told by a dealer who had an inter working Hyundai PDF of the 2019 Kona. I was buying a Limited and he knew it was my max price I wanted to spend. So it could be he was referring to the Limited and maybe the Ultimate will have it. I know the Limited will not have a sun roof in 2019.
I'm sorry, I strongly suspect this salesman is lying to you, to make the sale now. Now, it might be an honest mistake, since Hyundai has introduced the 2019 Kona EV, and that apparently is not coming with a sunroof -- and didn't notice that is the electric version.

The 2018 Kona, at this point, is about 3 months old -- the 2019 gas powered model is likely not going to be released for at least 6 months. To the best of my knowledge, there is no information about the updated specs on the 2019 gas powered Kona. Also realize that dealer's rarely get information on the new cars much before the general public. They will often get some advance notice on a new model (such as the 2018 Kona and 2019 Kona EV), so that they know how to sell the car -- but typically they know nothing about the features or updates on a new model year (unless a major refresh) until the car shows up on their lot.
 

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Let me clarify no sunroof on the 2019 Kona. I was told by a dealer who had an inter working Hyundai PDF of the 2019 Kona. I was buying a Limited and he knew it was my max price I wanted to spend. So it could be he was referring to the Limited and maybe the Ultimate will have it. I know the Limited will not have a sun roof in 2019.

This certainly bucks the trend of the standardization of sun/moon-roofs on most sedans and many crossovers and SUVs by mid-next decade. Any reasoning why they're dropping sunroofs altogether on the Kona?
 

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This certainly bucks the trend of the standardization of sun/moon-roofs on most sedans and many crossovers and SUVs by mid-next decade. Any reasoning why they're dropping sunroofs altogether on the Kona?

The general manager at the local dealer opinion is they do that on new models to put their best foot forward and have it show the best in the press against the others in the segment when all the hoopla and spot light is on it. Every first review on Youtube, what 30 of them, all have the sunroof in them.While I am not a big sunroof guy, I do use them in tilt mode in spring and fall. If I could chose, I would most likely what the 2019 package with the better stereo, but I just want to get rid of my Elantra before the value bumps down again and minus the next years micro price increase.
 

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The general manager at the local dealer opinion is they do that on new models to put their best foot forward and have it show the best in the press against the others in the segment when all the hoopla and spot light is on it. Every first review on Youtube, what 30 of them, all have the sunroof in them.While I am not a big sunroof guy, I do use them in tilt mode in spring and fall. If I could chose, I would most likely what the 2019 package with the better stereo, but I just want to get rid of my Elantra before the value bumps down again and minus the next years micro price increase.
I love sunroofs! Make the cabin of any ride feel roomier and more open. My last two cars had one, but after a wreck I was in that was not my fault, I made a bad purchasing decision that ultimately ended me up in a vehicle without one.

Every time I see a vehicle with one(4 out of 5 cars here!) I'm reminded of those good ol days. I'm in the same boat you are: but I want to trade in the Elantra for an older car with the sunroof.
 

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I'm not a sunroof guy. Maybe I'll wait for the 2019 models are released before shopping hard for one. If you are a sunroof person better get going & get a 2018.
 

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I'm not a sunroof guy. Maybe I'll wait for the 2019 models are released before shopping hard for one. If you are a sunroof person better get going & get a 2018.
You're going to hate buying a new car in 7-8 years!... Everything, except for a few SUVs and pickup trucks, will have one standard, at least in the U.S.

Just keep the shade closed, and you won't even know it's there. ;)
 

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I may hate buying a car in 7 or 8 years for many reasons. The sunroof is only one of them. I hate all the nanny's that are being put on cars & that will only get worse. For the time being it is nice to have a choice.
 

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I may hate buying a car in 7 or 8 years for many reasons. The sunroof is only one of them. I hate all the nanny's that are being put on cars & that will only get worse. For the time being it is nice to have a choice.

Yes, nannies such as "automated lane centering" are gimmicks to this old crow also. That's what wheel alignments and DRIVERS are for. Also, the trend of rising belt lines and shrinking glass area, especially aft. When backing into a parking space, I must open the drivers door in my 2015 Elantra and look down and aft to make sure I'm between 1-2 feet from the painted space line on that side!

In my 96 Ford Contour and 81 Buick years ago, I knew EXACTLY where I was in relation to what I was backing into, or if parallel parking.

The rising beltlines has been explained, not to my satisfaction, as part of a program to make cars "pedestrian-safe" should ever the twain come to meet. ! I'm not buying that. It's mostly for looks, which is all that seems to matter in this good old 21st Century. After all, with such high beltlines, how can one avoid backing into, or swinging their side panel into, a child short enough not to be seen over the rising belt line??

I'm placing my bets on a mid-2000s, mid-Trim level Accord - with the moonroof of course! ;)
 

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I see smart cruise control on the EV, wonder about the newer gas powered models?
I got 'smart cruise' - it's called my right foot. That and 'automatic lane centering': both creating more reasons for drivers to text while driving. smdh!
 

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One other change on the 2019, from what I heard from a review, is that the Lime Twist color will go away. If you want that color, you need to buy the 2018. In 2019 it is supposed to be replaced by a bright orange color, and that also includes the optional color accents inside the car.

I got 'smart cruise' - it's called my right foot. That and 'automatic lane centering': both creating more reasons for drivers to text while driving. smdh!
I don't see them working well enough to create more reasons to text -- if you even read Hyundai's small print, they mention that Emergency Braking may not stop quick enough to prevent a collision. Even if it does, the hard breaking and close call, when it does kick in, should hopefully be enough to scare people into trying not to let it happen again.

The fact remains, far too many people drive distracted, whether because of texting or a slew of other reasons; the more advanced features that help keep those people from hitting us are a good thing over all -- even if a small minority may abuse them (and still have accidents because of it).
 

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One other change on the 2019, from what I heard from a review, is that the Lime Twist color will go away. If you want that color, you need to buy the 2018. In 2019 it is supposed to be replaced by a bright orange color, and that also includes the optional color accents inside the car.



I don't see them working well enough to create more reasons to text -- if you even read Hyundai's small print, they mention that Emergency Braking may not stop quick enough to prevent a collision. Even if it does, the hard breaking and close call, when it does kick in, should hopefully be enough to scare people into trying not to let it happen again.

The fact remains, far too many people drive distracted, whether because of texting or a slew of other reasons; the more advanced features that help keep those people from hitting us are a good thing over all -- even if a small minority may abuse them (and still have accidents because of it).

I beg to differ. These technologies just promote complacency in some drivers.

To me, lane centering, blind spot awareness, smart cruise control etc. all start with a well engineered vehicle and the driver of that vehicle. People must be forced, somehow, into being drivers again, and doing nothing behind the wheel except driving. Reduce power assist in steering *just enough* to give drivers more road-feel, more one on one with their vehicle. That would reduce the tendency to over-react, and steer increasingly out of control.

I find most cars from after model-year 2000 to present too easily steered, and not a strong enough sense of center when going straight ahead. Turning the wheel should be heavy enough to *require* two hands, which would help focus drivers back on driving, and phones staying in pockets or handbags, where they belong while one is operating a two-plus ton steel, aluminum, glass rolling object.
 
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