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Link below to Colin Chapman's quotes, but his "simplify, than add lightness" definately is seen in the Elise, besides lacking stuff like AC I'm not sure there are airbags or much of any standard safety equipment, my friend who had one said driving I-25 on his work commute he was nearly crushed several times by large trucks that couldn't see the Lotus - it's profile is so low to the ground and the lower third of one's body sits under the door rails - which I think also serve as the frame. Took me several minutes to exit the car.
But if you get in an accident you would be road kill. Nothing handles like a Lotus though, it is "on rails" and the driving experience is completely transposed to that of a Hyundai - where road feel, steering input and all that good stuff is intentionally insulated from the driver.

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Link below to Colin Chapman's quotes, but his "simplify, than add lightness" definately is seen in the Elise, besides lacking stuff like AC I'm not sure there are airbags or much of any standard safety equipment, my friend who had one said driving I-25 on his work commute he was nearly crushed several times by large trucks that couldn't see the Lotus - it's profile is so low to the ground and the lower third of one's body sits under the door rails - which I think also serve as the frame. Took me several minutes to exit the car.
But if you get in an accident you would be road kill. Nothing handles like a Lotus though, it is "on rails" and the driving experience is completely transposed to that of a Hyundai - where road feel, steering input and all that good stuff is intentionally insulated from the driver.

www.azquotes.com/author/27371-Colin_Chapman
I got in and out of my friend's exige just fine. But I am on the short side. 67" tall.
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I found a new 2017 Jaguar XE 35T PRESTIGE. I'd seriously consider that my 'meet in the middle' choice, but idk about it's reliability as a daily driver.

Jaguars are about the same as the rest of the European bunch for reliability. Not as good as the Japanese but intrinsically good.


They are possibly better to drive as Jaguar put a lot of effort into providing that connection the Germans seem to have given up on, majoring more on adding as much power as possible for better headline figures nobody can actually use. The XE is supposed to be very good to drive. My spin in one was too short to be sure but it was certainly good on the lane change brake test we were playing on (absolutely no spins) at one of the Jaguar events.


Try one especially on a nice windy road
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