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Sir, about door lock issues....

Just my guessing.....
The left right door operates normally and ok with inner door handle as well as using key from its outside door which literally means we are operating physically and mechanically the locking system. This point is clear an no duads.......Mechanical operations....

The issue is when we are controlling through electronic signals with either remote, right door inner handle and from outside using key, the left door sometimes lock or unlock halfway. So, I think the motor inside the left door actuator is behaving badly or suspicious of that too..... electronic signal operations.....

Could you please brief on this motor which would root out the possible causes of half way lock and unlock??
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Hi everyone! Sorry for my english, i help self with google translate.

I have Hyundai i20 Classic+ 1.2 2009 - India
I have central lock with key, but i want add pilot.
Unfortunately all guides which i saw apply a new version ... 2011, facelifting, and later 2013 ...
I read first pages
but I also have my observations. I have read a lot of topics on the internet in recent days and not only and people have told me that in my version of 2009 the control is answered by ONE CABLE, is that right? Gives the picture below if someone knew which cube responds in my version of 2009 for control? If you tell me which cube is good, i will add next photo this cube and next i please tell me which small PLUG is right

Please, help me.
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I have Hyundai i20 Classic+ 1.2 2009 - India
I have central lock with key, but i want add pilot.
You've come to the right place. Thang Tons is also from India and has become an i20 central locking expert

Good Luck with the installation.
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I think he was having a similar problem like i, I hope he will help me
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Ah, dzień dobry.....now that you've updated your profile I see that you are actually from Poland, so I guess it's the car that's from India

Anyway, through the course of this thread we have learned that the locking on the i20 is controlled by a single wire. The photo below shows the wire @Thang Tons identified as the locking control wire on the BCM, which I think is the same wire as the one I highlighted on your photo (connector 'A'). I've also attached a wiring diagram from earlier in the thread showing how to wire the remote locking control module for a single wire control system. And if you need to connect the module to the turn signal lamps you can find info on how to do that in this post.



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Dzien dobry : ) Thank you for you post

now, google translator ...

Yes, i read this theme, and thank you for show specific cubes.

I read in polish forum about "one cable", but i think, a colour are diffrent depending of version and not only ...
Production in Turkey or India - This is just the simplest example

The user from poland forum say me about same electric cube what's here, but:

Cable in his cube is black/blue and he is plugged on plug 6
Colour plug 6 in my cube is diffrent about him and plug this theme.
Okey, i think he have i20 from Turkey, and i hope my car is same version like Thang Tons although I see that the colors in cube are different too like at me

I have already tried to make it based on the Polish description but, when i "cut" cable PLUG 6 notthing happed, and during the "cutting" the door should close.
OK, i connected cables again, but now i dont want "cut" plug 5 as you suggested, I would prefer to first make "sure 100%" that this is for sure this one, because as I wrote, the colors are different, so maybe the connection points are different?

Do I think right ... ??? I have "open" door, cut the "right cable" and the door should close immediately? because the electrical mass will be cut?

Can you write me "step by step" how to check if this plugin is for sure 100%?





This is my cube:



This is my schematic, I have to connect OPEN and CLOSE, Direction indicators, power supply, electric maser already attached


I also have a diagram on how to connect it, but I do not know why your scheme is "two" relays, and I have one

I'm sorry, I do not know how to paste attachments directly under the text, they show up at the bottom and it's confusing because you do not know which moment of the text applies.

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Can you write me "step by step" how to check if this plugin is for sure 100%?
Yes, it's not difficult although you may have trouble understanding my Scottish accent

You will need a 12V test light to test the locking control wire at the BCM. And you want to have the BCM connectors plugged in.

1) You need to use a screwdriver blade to close the latch on the driver's door. This is to allow the door to lock/unlock while it is open. Close all the other doors.

2) With the latch closed (to simulate the door being closed), lock the doors by turning the key in the driver's door lock.

3) Next, connect the crock clip of your test light to a good ground (a clean metal part of the car body) and use the test light probe to touch the terminal on the BCM connector that is connected to the GREEN/BLACK wire I highlighted in my earlier photo.

If the central locking unlock the doors when you probe the GREEN/BLACK wire you know that is the locking control wire, and if you were to now cut the wire (50mm or so back from the connector) the doors should lock again.

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I also have a diagram on how to connect it, but I do not know why your scheme is "two" relays, and I have one
Your diagram also has two relays. Don't you think these two diagram look kind of similar?



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Thank you for your post.

You perfectly understand the Google translator, I think your and his accent are similar:śmiech:

I think your/mine converted diagram should work,

You've done it in a clever way, I'm not an electronics and as you see I added / I wanted to add another relay (photo previous post) not to change the diagram of the universal driver that I got with the remote control from the seller. You have changed so that "probably" my extra relay will not be needed

I have to buy a test 12V screwdriver for the car, because for now I tried two cables attached to the 12V bulb, I read that it should flash when:

electric mass - bulb - second cable end will touch the right plug

Unfortunately, I tried in different ways anyway, the door opens, but the bulb does not flash, except that the cube, touching not only one wire opens, but a few! I do not remember it right now, but plugs 5,6,7 and those just below them with higher numbers also when I touch them open the door !. I locked myself in the car with the button "from the inside" and tried, I do not know if I think my "assembled" test tube is bad and therefore such confusing results, so I have to buy an original 12V screwdriver and try it.

I will add that when I tried with these "different" plugs, I found two plugs in the middle cube on the controller - blue and yellow/black cable which when I touched the cable from my "home test tube" opened and closed the door. Then I twisted the cables with my controller and I pressed OPEN, then CLOSE on my new "pilot" and everything worked fine! However, both this guest in Poland and you suggest "one control cable" that's why I did not leave it, because maybe after some time something could break in the control panel. The above picture marked A, B, C and now I wrote about these two cables from under the cube B in the picture.

Ok, I have to buy this 12v tester with a screwdriver, although I am tempted to cut the plug 5 and see if the door closes when I cut it ... but I feel sorry for cutting the cables and then connecting them

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You have changed so that "probably" my extra relay will not be needed
No you wont need any additional relays to make the locking work. There are already two inside the remote locking module so we just reconfigure the wiring to make those relays work with whatever locking system is on the car.

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I have to buy a test 12V screwdriver for the car, because for now I tried two cables attached to the 12V bulb, I read that it should flash when:
electric mass - bulb - second cable end will touch the right plug
You can use a normal 12V bulb with wires attached as a test light. The bulb won't light/flash when using it to test the locking though because there is very little current flowing. The car's locking control circuit only uses 2mA of current. To illuminate a 12V 5Watt bulb would require 200mA of current, so the bulb doesn't light.

A proper 12V test light (with an incandescent bulb) is a great addition to your tool kit though. It will be well worth the zł.

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I found two plugs in the middle cube on the controller - blue and yellow/black cable which when I touched the cable from my "home test tube" opened and closed the door. Then I twisted the cables with my controller and I pressed OPEN, then CLOSE on my new "pilot" and everything worked fine! However, both this guest in Poland and you suggest "one control cable" that's why I did not leave it, because maybe after some time something could break in the control panel. The above picture marked A, B, C and now I wrote about these two cables from under the cube B in the picture.
Ah, so there are two individual control wires. That's how I was expecting the locking to work on a Hyundai.....negative pulse on one wire to lock, negative pulse on the other to unlock.

I guess Thang Tons must have missed those wires when he was testing his car. To be honest, you can wire it up either way. It's just two different methods of achieving the same goal.
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Thank you for your again post.

I made a film ... about my problem.
What you think about this?

(if not work, watch ON YOUTUBE)



Everyone say - one cable, so?


You think I can connect to this central cube (blue and yellow plug) and nothing "after a while" will not break in my car? I'm afraid of it a bit because I've always read about this "one cable"

I wrote to you that on the Polish forum advised me one user that in this model is responsible for closing and opening one cable, accidentally I fell later on his other posts and professionally he assumes central locks and not only for cars, unfortunately he is conceited and did not want me explain like you to me here, just wrote to me in style - I know, but I will not say because you should be guessing yourself how you want to improve in the car.

As I do not know, but I like to do something myself because then I'm smarter.
I just have doubts if it will not spoil anything if I connect it on the two cables in the central cube (blue and yellow), and not one cable as most people say, Thang Tons too. In addition, people wrote about the first and third cubes in newer models, never about the middle ...? hm?

Do you think I can combine if the film works for me and in time will not happen?

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