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Purchase advice from owners

New member, lurking for a few days here. I'm in the market for a used 3 row SUV/CUV for my wife and initially was looking at Highlanders but can't stomach the Toyota premium and lack of depreciation. I did some more research and realized the Santa Fe (LW was is highly praised in comparison.

My question is about the changes made in '17 and are they worth it. I'm debating between a '15/16 Limited or spending a bit more on a '17 Limited. From what I can tell the fascia/grill, foglights, CarPlay/Android Auto and adaptive cruise are the major differences added/changed in '17. Is that correct? Am I missing anything major?

The price differences are about $4-5K USD and obviously less miles on the '17s.


I have '10 Genesis 4.6 that's been great to me so I trust Hyundai quality, but still like the idea of less miles and more warranty left as one of the '14s I drove and was ready to buy had the AWD coupler go out RIGHT as we pulled back into the dealer lot. They're getting it fixed under warranty, but it's a 2 owner vehicle with 51K on it so I'm very gun shy on it now from what I've read here about the couplers.

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I have a '17 SF limited ultimate and have had absolutely no problems. Pushing 30K miles and I've been back to the dealer for oil changes only because they are cheaper there. I too would be leery of a two owner used car. Though I trust Hyundai build quality, I always wonder how the other owners may have taken care of their car. Good luck on your purchase they are a great vehicle.
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Thanks jcarbs. Did you look at '16s? Am I on point with the major differences?

Should have noted all are Limited Ultimate trim/package that I'm looking at.

I'll skip out on the 2 owner one, more risk. My wife's going to kill me as she thought I'd be bringing it home tomorrow!
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Thanks jcarbs. Did you look at '16s? Am I on point with the major differences?

Should have noted all are Limited Ultimate trim/package that I'm looking at.

I'll skip out on the 2 owner one, more risk. My wife's going to kill me as she thought I'd be bringing it home tomorrow!
Had looked at the 16's when my wife bought her 16' Tuscon Limited Ultimate but she felt it was to big. So I didn't really pay attention to the differences in the change of equipment. When the grand kids came I looked at all the three row vehicles in the class at the Houston car show and decided that I preferred the Santa Fe over the others in the class. If I'm correct one of the changes was the Tech package with all it's gadgets. I did get that with my vehicle and that 360 degree camera is awesome especially when I'm in tight spaces.
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I am not a big fan of adaptive cruise control unless it will revert to standard cruise if the "adaptive" portion fails or is blocked by weather conditions. Too easy to damage the radar arrays if the vehicle's bumper gets tapped and again....Often disrupted by road and weather conditions and then you have no cruise control at all.....

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I am not a big fan of adaptive cruise control unless it will revert to standard cruise if the "adaptive" portion fails or is blocked by weather conditions. Too easy to damage the radar arrays if the vehicle's bumper gets tapped and again....Often disrupted by road and weather conditions and then you have no cruise control at all.....
From what I have seen from various manufacturers (Subaru, Toyota, Kia and Hyundai), all of their adaptive systems can be switched to normal cruise control via some version of hand waving and/or incantations. For the Santa Fe, page 5-74 in the 2019 owners manual says:

The driver may choose to only use the Cruise Control mode (speed control
function) by doing as follows:
1. Turn the Smart Cruise Control System on (the cruise indicator light will be on but the system will not be activated).
2. Push and hold the Vehicle-to-Vehicle Distance button for more than 2 seconds.
3. Choose between "Smart Cruise Control (SCC) mode" and "Cruise Control (CC) mode".
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You can turn off the adaptive system on the 2017 as well. I've not minded the system, it works as intended. I do get frustrated when people decide to come over to your lane and then slow down, the car hitting the brakes to slow you down can be disquieting.

However I do enjoy the other features of the Tech package. With the ability to turn of the adaptive cruise, it was a good option for me.
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You can turn off the adaptive system on the 2017 as well. I've not minded the system, it works as intended. I do get frustrated when people decide to come over to your lane and then slow down, the car hitting the brakes to slow you down can be disquieting.

However I do enjoy the other features of the Tech package. With the ability to turn of the adaptive cruise, it was a good option for me.
Frankly, adaptive cruise control was an absolute must-have in my new car. Yes, I agree that the cars cutting over in your lane will cause your car to apply the brakes and slow down -- that can be annoying. However, you are trading that off with having to do that yourself by adjusting the speed of your standard cruise control downward or tap the brakes to turn it off. You can, of course, somewhat mitigate this by increasing the following distance and hope you don't get cut-off. It's not a perfect system for sure, but I really believe it's a step forward compared to standard cruise control.

Since this thread is discussing purchasing advice, let me share some of the knowledge I have gained after purchasing 5 new cars over the past year. 3 of those new cars had 8-speed transmissions and all of them shifted like absolute garbage. The 2 others, one of which is my current 2019 Santa Fe XL, had very smooth 6-speed transmissions. It is obvious to me that manufacturers are not tuning their transmissions for smoothness and driveability, but purely for fuel-economy and pushing their CAFE numbers as high as possible. This is why we are saddled with this crappy auto engine start/stop garbage today -- fortunately the 2019 Santa Fe XL doesn't have this crap. The auto-start/stop systems are nothing more than a gimmick to game the EPA fuel economy test track; they do very little to actually save consumers any money on fuel and do increase wear and tear on the engine, starting system and battery.
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I agree johnny_karate with what you said. I was trying to get across that traffic and adaptive cruise takes sometime getting used to. I love my Santa Fe for all of the reasons you mentioned above. The drive train is fantastic, the panoramic sunroof is great, and those captains chairs keep my passengers happy. I didn't find a vehicle in its class that I liked better that year.

I agree about the auto-start/stop and fear that will become the norm for most cars in the future, but like you that pretty much disqualifies it as a purchase option. It scares me in Houston traffic on my daughters Durango. She's gotten used to it, but I still do not care for it.
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I agree johnny_karate with what you said. I was trying to get across that traffic and adaptive cruise takes sometime getting used to. I love my Santa Fe for all of the reasons you mentioned above. The drive train is fantastic, the panoramic sunroof is great, and those captains chairs keep my passengers happy. I didn't find a vehicle in its class that I liked better that year.

I agree about the auto-start/stop and fear that will become the norm for most cars in the future, but like you that pretty much disqualifies it as a purchase option. It scares me in Houston traffic on my daughters Durango. She's gotten used to it, but I still do not care for it.
Prior to looking at the Santa Fe XL, I test drove a 2019 Kia Sorento. Unfortunately, Kia put an 8-speed transmission in this vehicle for 2019; the 2018s had a 6-speed. I absolutely hated it. For one, it locks the torque converter as soon as you start moving, making it so you feel every shift like you're in a manual transmission car. Sure, I understand that torque converter slippage is a waste of energy, but there's huge upsides in smoothness and driveability. Hyundai, knowing the XL is being replaced by the Palisade, made no changes to the Santa Fe XL from 2018 (other than a naming change). I am so very happy with this car and plan to drive the wheels off of it.

In the end, everyone is going to make car buying decisions based upon what is important to them. That's what makes having choice in the marketplace so great!
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