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2020 Hyundai Elantra Improves Fuel Economy and Safety

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2020 Hyundai Elantra Improves Fuel Economy and Safety


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SE manual transmission and Sport manual transmission discontinued

Well, won't be getting one of those. Gotta have my gears. But not shocking. Did a local 150 search and only found 1 manual Sport. Glad mine only had 43K as I'll have it a long time it seems.

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Can someone tell me what this is: Efficient Positive Temperature Coefficient Electric Heater (2.0L engine only)

Is there an interior cabin heater that is electrically powered for comfort while the engine is warming up? You'd need a good size alternator for that and that kind of load on the engine would be noticeable.

My F350 has a 1500 watt rapid supplemental heater and works great but I have dual alternators that push out close to 400 amps.
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Can someone tell me what this is: Efficient Positive Temperature Coefficient Electric Heater (2.0L engine only)

Is there an interior cabin heater that is electrically powered for comfort while the engine is warming up? You'd need a good size alternator for that and that kind of load on the engine would be noticeable.

My F350 has a 1500 watt rapid supplemental heater and works great but I have dual alternators that push out close to 400 amps.

I couldn't find an exact answer, but this older thread may shed some light:


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So they are addressing the slow heat qualities of the 2.0., but it will have a long term unproven IVT. The grill and lower rear end still look cheap (unappealing) compared to what I have. More Tech I do not want (more to fail). Price is higher. Pass. That being said it may be a good car for someone else.

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So they are addressing the slow heat qualities of the 2.0., but it will have a long term unproven IVT. The grill and lower rear end still look cheap (unappealing) compared to what I have. More Tech I do not want (more to fail). Price is higher. Pass. That being said it may be a good car for someone else.

I was hoping they would tweak the front end a bit to soften the triangles, but it looks to be exactly the same as the 2019. It will take years before we really know how reliable the IVT (Intelligent Variable Transmission) is; it's worth noting though that the 2019 Kia Forte with the IVT has been available since September 2018 and there haven't been reports of major fails as far as I know. I think it's a good thing that Forward Collision Warning /Automatic Emergency Braking is standard on all 2020 models instead of part of an expensive add-on package.
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I think it's a good thing that Forward Collision Warning /Automatic Emergency Braking is standard on all 2020 models instead of part of an expensive add-on package.
LOL. The SE just went up $1750 and the Limited went up $1100. I guess $1000 for the transmission and $750 for the extra safety tech. Not sure why the Limited went up all they added standard that I can tell is the wireless phone charging. I think 2019 Limited already had the Infinity stereo standard.

Yes it is standard, but not free, you are paying for it. Just like the 2019's went up when they added the safety tech last year. Like I have said before, when comparing to Toyota and Honda, they make a big deal that those brands have all this std safety tech. They do but they cost thousands more than a Hyundai that did not have it.

I guess it is a California thing, but laughed when it said "on sale this spring". It is almost June, that is summer.
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The PTC heater was never installed in American models of the Elantras, I recall it was something that was just installed on the higher trims of the canadian models. My assumption is that the PTC heater that will be used for the 2020 will be standard for all american cars, and likely will only make enough heat to help defrost windows initially. There's no way an electric heater on a car is going to pump out enough heat to make any real difference.

(I don't want this post to get political, but it's reality) For those of you noting the price increase, please remember we're in the middle of a trade war with additional steel and aluminum tariffs that take a few months to trickle down to consumers. Car's use a lot of those two materials.
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LOL. The SE just went up $1750 and the Limited went up $1100. I guess $1000 for the transmission and $750 for the extra safety tech.

Yes it is standard, but not free, you are paying for it. Just like the 2019's went up when they added the safety tech last year.

Yes, of course the extra safety tech isn't free, but it's available on the SE this year; it wasn't an option when I bought my 2017 SE. I added both optional packages, but unfortunately FCW/AEB wasn't available. I would have had to move up to the Limited and that would have been quite a bit more.


Regarding the cost increases I would wait to see what incentives Hyundai offers when the 2020 line comes out. The "out the door" prices may still be good
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