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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-15-2019, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
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New Santa Fe owner. Going to try and do a better job keeping this car shiny! It lives in the driveway at home, but in a garage at work.


How do you clean your vehicles? Hand wash, detailed by a pro, drive through car wash? If by hand, what products and tools do you use?
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A dark(ish) color like Stormy Blue... no way I'd run it through an automatic car wash if you want to keep the paint free of swirl marks. Two bucket wash with quality towels/mitts and don't be stingy with the soap (not dish soap... good car wash soap). Apply a good wax or paint sealant at least 2x a year if it lives outside a good portion of the time.

Check out http://www.autogeek.net -- very active forum on all things car care and a good retailer as well.

We sold my wife's black 2011 Nissan Juke after buying the SF. I never wanted a black car, but we talked ourselves into this one. Dark cars look great when clean, but require so much more care and attention since the dark color really highlights any flaws. I obsessed over this thing for 8 years and kept it looking great, IMO... but it wasn't easy. That said, it's a whole lot easier to keep good paint looking good than it is to revive paint that's been flawed through neglect.

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we had a black mazda millenia. from day one, zaino. NEVER had swirl marks from polish, i ran it thru machine car washes a lot. i also hand washed it many times. now both our elantras are zaino, absolutely NO swirl marks. i mostly hand wash, but have run them both thru machine washes. in all my years, i think the polish used is the difference maker. zaino can be applied in sun or shade, goes on easy, comes of easy, and can be layered. best protection i have ever used against bird droppings and tree sap. i just bought ryobi cordless 6" polisher to apply, and a 10" buffer. makes the job even easier now. the only problem i had was finding the buffing bonnets big enough, most are too tight. i put velcro on the polisher, and i get those 6" foam microfiber pads to apply. a guy down the street has a black corvette, and he was crazy anal about swirl marks. now he zaino's only, no swirl marks. another neat thing is i can apply it to all the plastic, like the headlights, and it protects, plus no white residue on the black plastic trim. great stuff
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Touch free and hand washes for this Santa Fe only. Once and a while I'll take it to a local detailer for a proper hand wash, he's the one that will be applying our ceramic coat.

I use mostly chemical guys products on both my cars, with blacklight shampoo (for the Santa Fe) and Mr pink shampoo (for the Mazda) their waxes, polishes and quick detailer sprays are awesome imo.

I'm in Canada so are winter are very long and unforgiving especially on our vehicles, I'll make sure to take it to our detailer as his work is fantastic and prices are very reasonable. I'll be doing most of the hand washes during the spring and summer.

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I'd recommend hand wash if you are trying to be meticulous about taking care of the paint. As treybrad stated, darker colors tend to require more effort. Paint swirls are more visible imo.

I currently have a black 2013 Hyundai SF sport. I handwash most the time and if I'm in a time crunch, I'll use a coin-op carwash. But I know this will cause swirls with that poorly maintained brush. To remedy this, I will use my Griot's 6" DA polisher with Meguiar's Microfiber DA kit. It removes the swirls and minor scratches, but it takes me awhile to do. I do this about 2-3 times per year (Claybar prior and finish with Collinite Insulator sealant).

Go visit AutoGeek forum and you'll see a HUGE amount of information on auto detailing. (TBH, it can be very overwhelming the amount of tools/products that are out there). It really depends on how much time and effort you want to dedicate. For reference, when I do a full interior/exterior detail job with claybar and the DA polisher, it takes me about 4+ hours.
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Wash by hand, at least if you car about your ride.

It literally takes me 10-15min in my shaded driveway (or a self-service wash bay) to do a better hand wash (& dry) on my E than ANY local automated car wash. Just a pressure hose, a car mitt, and a bucket with a shot of name brand car wash (NOT dish washing detergent!!!). I'm done before I could drive to the car wash, sit in line for the wash, and drive home.

I swore by Zaino stuff back when I had the time (and motivation) to keep my car gleaming. Great products. These days I must admit that my Quartz White E is more of a commuter appliance than a show car. Not that it looks bad, just that I've backed off my car detailings to periodic washings and a quality wax every 3-6mo. And an interior vacuum/interior wipe down every so often. White and silver are the best car colors for looking OK with minimal detailing, but of course will never have the 'POP' of a freshly waxed black or deep metallic color.



IMHO- Car washes are all about barely good enough to make more $$. Swirl marks are almost guaranteed. The "wax" jobs you pay $$ for barely last through the next couple of rain showers. And largest chain in my area crams so many cars through the wash at a time that bumper bashings are not rare.
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In Minnesota we barely have 6 months of nice enough weather to do driveway car washing so we are stuck in either the (supposedly) quality auto washes or the touchfree washes at the gas stations that only run above 10F in winter. Thank goodness I was able to put on high quality Mequiars the day I bought the Santa Fe in late October and it's still beading up as our cold wet spring hasn't been conducive to a fresh coat of wax. I do use the two bucket wash method using a good quality car wash soap in bucket one. I found the two times I've done a driveway wash of the Santa Fe it's a bit more work than my Camry, lots of nooks n crannies and oh the pano roof ... how to not have water spots on that monster?! I've only wiped the leather seats so far, debating if I use Lexol cleaner/conditioner that our local body shop swears by (but it tends to be real sticky on the trousers).
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Thanks Trey! I really didn't set out to get a dark colored car, but I also didn't want something bland.
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Touch free and hand washes for this Santa Fe only. Once and a while I'll take it to a local detailer for a proper hand wash, he's the one that will be applying our ceramic coat.

I use mostly chemical guys products on both my cars, with blacklight shampoo (for the Santa Fe) and Mr pink shampoo (for the Mazda) their waxes, polishes and quick detailer sprays are awesome imo.

I'm in Canada so are winter are very long and unforgiving especially on our vehicles, I'll make sure to take it to our detailer as his work is fantastic and prices are very reasonable. I'll be doing most of the hand washes during the spring and summer.

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A fellow Canuck here too. I am debating on the ceramic coating too. Unfortunately not many option where I live (small city) so I was looking for some options in the GTA. Would you mind sharing the detailer's contact info and approx. ceramic coating pricing you got for Santa Fe?
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