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BE Fuel Service by dealership pretty cool

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#1 ·
BG, I meant, not BE.

The Moon Unit has 42k miles now, so I brought it in for its second treatment. The service advisor told me they do three things. First, they pinch shut the fuel line and run the engine on a special chemical that burns hotter than gas, helping eliminate carbon buildup. Then, they spray a mistake of chemical into the manifold while running the engine to strip away remaining carbon. Finally, they add something to the gasoline, and after driving the car for a while to ensure the computer on the car doesn't wig out, they're done.

I also had them change out my oil using the Magnatec I mentioned in another post. I'd read at these boards it is best to do these in that order so as to maximize the cleaning out of any carbon in the oil after one of these treatments.

Very nice experience, and as always I was treated well.

I love how the tech continues to improve over time.
 
#12 ·
MO, have you ever cleaned carbon off of engine parts? It's quite labor intensive. Carbon has to be mechanically removed. This can be accomplished by scraping with a tool or blasting crushed walnut shells on the affected area.
If this BG stuff actually burns hot enough(which it doesnt) to remove carbon deposits, then its hot enough to bend valves and burn pistons.
 
#13 ·
BG, I meant, not BE.

The Moon Unit has 42k miles now, so I brought it in for its second treatment. The service advisor told me they do three things. First, they pinch shut the fuel line and run the engine on a special chemical that burns hotter than gas, helping eliminate carbon buildup. Then, they spray a mistake of chemical into the manifold while running the engine to strip away remaining carbon. Finally, they add something to the gasoline, and after driving the car for a while to ensure the computer on the car doesn't wig out, they're done.

I also had them change out my oil using the Magnatec I mentioned in another post. I'd read at these boards it is best to do these in that order so as to maximize the cleaning out of any carbon in the oil after one of these treatments.

Very nice experience, and as always I was treated well.

I love how the tech continues to improve over time.
They ain't puttin no mistakes in MY car, no siree bob!

:D

BG services are usually pretty good. Used to use them in a Toyota garage when the oil would sludge up. Usually cleaned them up pretty well, if the owner hadn't gone too long between oil changes.

Kind of expensive, though, as witnessed by your $160 fee. ~$100 would be better...
 
#15 ·
That's because the dealer is taking a slice. BG services usually run $70-95 if you find a BG dealer that just (or mostly) does BG work.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Injecting cleaner through the fuel system on a DI engine does nothing for the valves since the injectors spray directly into the cylinder and NOT at the valves as with port injection. The only time this service would be called for is when symptoms are present that indicate clogged injectors. Otherwise, it has little to no value as a preventive maintenance service (other than its value to the dealer's bottom line). Also it should be done in conjunction with an oil change as the cleaning solvent may dilute the oil.
The manifold cleaning is minimally useful at best, certainly not worth $160. It may do more harm than good if it releases deposits that then get burned through the engine and contaminate the cats and 02 sensors.
 
#19 ·
Amazon sells the 3m fuel system tune up kit, PN 39089. I think its on sale for $40.

A can of Amsoil PowerFoam plus a can of Amsoil PI together is about $25.
 
#22 ·
One would hope (and generally it's the case) that the techs at a dealer are higher on the evolutionary scale than the kid working at Jiffy Lube. That said, at a dealer or full-service shop (as opposed to an oil-change place) there will be A,B, and C level techs with the "A" guys doing the heavy diagnosis and major repairs and the "C" guys doing the simple maintenance stuff. And the lower level dealer techs are generally learning from the more experienced ones as they work their way up.
At a place like Jiffy Lube there really isn't any place to go beyond changing oil and filters so you won't find the best and brightest working there. Hence all the stories of stripped and missing drain plugs, engine drained and trans filled with engine oil, etc.
But what they all do have in common is the aforementioned upselling of all those add-on services that you don't really need, because that is where both dealers and quick-change places make their greatest profit.
 
#25 ·
app1105, Steampunk, et. al., I get that you think the price is high. At the same time, I don't want to short my vehicle's preservation. The Techron, though, may not work at all, if I am reading these posts correctly, yet the owner's manual does recommend it, but not the full BG thing. I need to learn more about these, as I hate wasting money too.

Please, keep the perspectives coming!
 
#30 ·
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