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#1 ·
So out of no where I have a Clunk type sound coming from my steering column. But only when I turn the steering wheel five percent either way. Steering is still 100 percent responsive though. Ideas ?


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#3 ·
Tsb

This bulletin describes the procedure to replace the flexible
rubber coupling in the MDPS (motor driven power steering)
assembly to address a minor “clicking” or “thud” type noise
when turning the steering wheel in some models."

Circulate To: General Manager
, Service Manager, Parts Manage
r, Warranty Manager, Service
Advisors, Technicians, Body Shop Manager, Fleet Repair
Technical Service Bulletin
GROUP NUMBER
STEERING 14-ST-002-1
DATE MODEL(S)
MAY 2014 SEE BELOW
SUBJECT:
MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING (MDPS) COUPLING
REPLACEMENT
THIS TSB SUPERSEDES TSB 14-ST-002 TO A
DD VELOSTER (FS) TO THE APPLICABLE
VEHICLES LIST.
Description:
This bulletin describes the procedure to r
eplace the flexible r
ubber coupling in the
MDPS (motor driven power steering) assembly to
address a minor “clicking” or “thud” type noise
when turning the steering wheel in some models.
Applicable Vehicles:
•
2011~2014 Sonata (YFa), 2011~2014 Sonata Hybrid (YF HEV)
•
2007~2014 Elantra (HD, MD/UD), 2009~2012 Elant
ra Touring (FD), 2013~2014 Elantra GT
(GD), 2013~2014 Elantra Coupe (JK)
•
2013~2014 Santa Fe (NC)
•
2012~2014 Azera (HG)
•
2012~2014 Veloster (FS)
Parts Information:
PART NAME
PART NUMBER
IMAGE
QTY
Flexible Coupling 56315-2K000-FFF
Note: “4P” marking on revised part
1
There are no steering performance issu
es associated with this condition.
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NOTE


MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING
(MDPS) COUPLING REPLACEMENT
TSB #: 14-ST-002-1 Page 2 of 11
SUBJECT:
Warranty Information:
Models
Op Code
Operation
Op Time
Causal Part #
Nature Code
Cause Code
YFa, YF
HEV, FS, GD
56300F15
MDPS Flexible
Coupling
Replacement
1.5 M/H
56315-
2K000-FFF
N29 C06
NC 56300F16 1.6 M/H
HD
FD
UD
MD
HG
56300F17 1.7 M/H
Service Procedure for Elantra
(HD) and Elantra Touring (FD):
1.
Remove MDPS assembly from the vehicle
(refer to shop m
anual for removal
procedure).
-
Take care to not damage any wiring or introduce foreign matter when
disassembling the MDPS assembly.
-
Ensure all connectors are securely plugged in when reassembling.
-
Do not use a hoist when removing the MDPS assembly. Keep the tires
on the ground during removal and inst
allation of the MDPS assembly.
CAUTION
Carefully align the steering wheel to
the center position, with the front
wheels pointing straight ahead before
removing MDPS assembly.
When re-installing MDPS assembly,
make sure the steering wheel is
aligned to the center position, and that
the front wheels are still pointing
straight ahead.
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#8 ·
On August 3, 2013 a clunking sound was made every time I turned the wheel while stopped. I took it to Rick Case Hyundai. They said the clunking noise was because of a small part in the steering column that wears down and Hyundai doesn’t offer just that part (a little black rubber piece that probably costs $5) so I’d need to replace the whole steering column. The Service Manager Mark Perry was very accommodating (because my car was out of warranty at 87,000 miles) offering a one-time good will where I would only pay for the labor and not the steering column. Still I had to pay $270. The steering column is another $800 dollars (which the dealership covered) and who knows if in another 80,000 miles that little black gasket will wear out again (at which point the repair would be roughly $1,100)! I was also told this was such a common problem that the parts have recently been on backorder. I was also told by a technician to expect to see a recall because of the problem being so common (to date I’m unaware of a recall). This would have been covered under warranty but with 87,000 miles on my car, I instead had to pay $270. I wrote a letter and followed up with phone calls to Hyundai of North America. I told them I didn’t think a car that’s bought brand new and with under 100,000 miles should have all the problems I’ve had (see below). I still love my car and Hyundai but they refused to reimburse me the $270 I had to pay for the labor of installing an entire steering column for a failed $5 rubber gasket! As a side note and more of a reason for Hyundai to have shown me appreciation for being a loyal customer, 4 months before this steering column issue, I spent $1,050 on 4 brand new Hankook tires bought from Hyundai. Now here are the fixes I’ve encountered so far:
February 9, 2011 – The Brake Switch is replaced because the car doesn’t register it’s in park.
February 22, 2011 – The Shift Lever Assembly is replaced because the car still doesn’t register it’s in park
February 28, 2011 – I have to go back in because the parts have now arrived for the Shift Lever Assembly
August 11, 2011 – The driver’s window would stick in the middle of going up or down. They lubed the parts.
November 4, 2011 – The Shift Lever was replaced again.
December 19, 2011 – The Brake Switch is replaced for a second time because the car won’t start because it won’t register that it’s in park.
February 25, 2012 – The car’s Battery is dead after just two years of service.
May 2, 2012 – The Driver’s Window is still sticking. The Front Window Regulator switch is replaced.
June 28, 2012 – The Right Paddle Shifter has to be replaced because it no longer pulls back like normal.
March 3, 2013 – The vehicle won’t register it’s in park again and the Brake Switch has to be replaced a Third Time.
May 3, 2013 – The Brake Switch is replaced a Fourth Time because of a Recall.
 
#9 ·
Cracked bearing retainer source of clank/clatter steering noise

I found the steering column clunk/clatter noise issue to be in the steering motor assembly. There is a small skate board style bearing under a plastic cover on the assembly. The bearing is held in place by a retainer that appears to be plastic which is cracked. This allows for the extra play that allows for the clattering noise when the wheel is turned or the car is driven over rough pavement.
Here is photo link to the white plastic cover: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4ady7r8fvg4g2p/20140901_162910.jpg?dl=0
Here is a photo link to the bearing and plastic retainer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/attkns4k61oyx2m/20140901_162947.jpg?dl=0
 
#14 ·
My Sonata 2011 has less than 40.000 miles and the steering had "excessive play" and "clanking noise"
the dealer found the problem was a defective 56315-2k000-fff and replaced it

Is this worn off too early?. I know friends with Sonatas who also had what feels like a lose steering

I saw on the internet that many KIAs and Hyundais have a problem with this part. Some cars apparently ended with the steering wheel coming off. I feel there should be recall for all KIA/Hyundai cars

I was charged $2.50 for the part and $490 for the labour

Is this an excessive charge for the labor?
 
#16 · (Edited)
I was charged $2.50 for the part and $490 for the labour

Is this an excessive charge for the labor?
Obscene is an understatement. Labor time is about 2.0 hours based on what most guys who had to pay for this repair.
What did they estimate on the repair order you had to sign BEFORE the repair was done? what is the hourly rate at this stealership?

And they wonder why consumers think that dealer service depts suck...
Not yours, sbr711...

prior thread:
http://www.hyundai-forums.com/yf-2011-sonata-i45/278953-tsb-mdps-coupling-replacement.html

If you read the TSB, the labor time is ONLY 1.7 hours for the YF model...

The TSB in question is: 14-ST-002-1, dated May 2014
 
#15 · (Edited)
Crazy excessive in my book, unfortunately. Dropped the steering column myself to change it out a few months back - didn't end up being the issue, but the overall time it took was only around an hour.

EDIT: I think others have paid hundreds for the repair at the dealership. Mine offered it for something like $300 total. Still a ripoff given the time needed if you know what you're doing...but $490 is obscene.
 
#17 ·
It looks like I am about to join this game - last night I noticed a clicking/rattling/metal on metal type of sound when I drove over bumps, very inconsistent though, it didn't occur after every bump. I thought I had something lose in the rear driver side door or the driver door. On the way to work this morning it was more frequent and more consistent while turning. So if turning and going over a bump, it was always there. As I pulled into my parking spot and was stopped, just turning the steering wheel in both directions caused the noise.


My 2011 limited is at 60,500 miles and 6 years so I guess I will be paying for it, especially since I have 3 other recalls waiting, they will be itching to get some money out of me. Slowly not liking my Sonata.
 
#18 ·
Q for all that have had this part replaced:

Did you notice a "dancing/skipping" in the wheels when making a turn? Red Sled feels like she is going over small bumps or slick spots when driving and turning. My guess is that this part (like a million others on this **** car) is toast and needs replaced.

Feedback appreciated.
 
#19 ·
Power Steering Thud

I think I have the problem @ 88000 miles. If I ignore it will the problem get worse or can I continue to drive. I make a couple of 500+ mile trips per month and have noticed have no problems on the highway. I assume this repair is no longer covered by the warranty. What's a reasonable repair cost?
 
#20 ·
I too had this problem with my car. They called me while my car was apart saying they couldn't do without cutting some wiring to my aftermarket switches and I was like "ah screw it, do it but try to leave me as much slack as possible". I got the car back. **** guy literally cut one of my led wire leads right AT the led. Wasn't too mad and ended up removing some unnecessary wiring and cleaned it up a bit. Has been fine since. I didn't have to pay a dime. Car had 21k on it when it was done.
 
#21 ·
After a recall on the power steering my steering became very loose at low speed with a clunk when turning. My car has now been at the dealership for 6 weeks and counting. It is out of warranty and Hyundai Canada is not releasing the parts to the dealership. My steering was perfect prior to the recall. It appears that HC dont want to fix this. I don't where to turn for a solution. The dealer has been good as they have provided a free loaned while I wait but I am getting pissed.

(2011 Sonata GL Canada)
 
#22 ·
Had mine replaced by my mechanic the other month because I could care less to deal with the dealership especially with me being over 105k miles at the time.

$4.50 for part
$198 Labor

I was quite alright with that price to get rid of the clunking and was only out a car for a day and half.
 
#23 ·
I just had this done under the new 10yr/120K mile warranty (free) via the MDPS flexible coupler TSB (Kia). Took them 1.5 hours. Was not really that bad at 56K miles but I wanted it fixed before the 60K mile magic mark anyway (just in case the rack or steering column needed replacing).

This is what the old one looked like:
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