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#1 Old 04-13-2011, 04:26 AM
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Ok so i have a 2001 elantra and i need to replace rear shoes. i have done this on many cars and know there is an adjuster screw to turn. HOWEVER...if your looking directly at my backing plate from behind , my inspection hole is at 9 o'clock on passenger side and 3 o'clock driver side and i know the adjuster screw is at 12 o"clock. I looked at the haynes manual and the picture shows the hole at 12 o'clock .Using all kinds of screwdrivers, straight and bent i cannot get to the screw and get my drum off. I tried a few times over the last month, to no avail. Its been 2 weeks and i drive to so much the shoes are down to metal on metal.

WHat else can i try or is there some trick or special tool ? i dont want nor can afford to take to mechanic to have them do it. i've never taken a vehicle to mechanic, i've always been able to figure it out one way or another. this is stumping me.
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there is no adjusting screw, the brakes are self adjusting. the reason you can't get the drums off is the brake shoes have worn a ridge on the drum. first let the parking brake adjuster right off, this will help. you will then have to force the drum off using a hammer and lever the drum between the drum and the back plate. you will likely need new drums as well as new shoes



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Get a bigger hammer and wail.

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there is no adjusting screw,
[b]Umm,, USA model has a threaded adjuster. Just not accessible from outside the works..

the brakes are self adjusting.
[b]Correct, provided the driver does his part, but see it typical that every 15,000 a maunual adjust is best to keep things going

the reason you can't get the drums off is the brake shoes have worn a ridge on the drum.
[b]More so rust..

first let the parking brake adjuster right off, this will help. you will then have to force the drum off using a hammer and lever the drum between the drum and the back plate. you will likely need new drums as well as new shoes
[b]Hopefully you not break the hold down pins and caps... real pain on Accent. I just carck the drum with hammer till it jump loose at the hub,, the rock/pull/carefully pry the drum off.. sometimes light load while prying and knock with hammer will let the drumm squeek off,,, then resurface the drums to make flat and get rid of lip, then you can adjust shoes to the drum and be able to freely install the drum..

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the drum moves in and out alittle bit , but is caught on the shoes. am i to just completely pry the whole thing off , pulling the shoes and springs of too? i had tried prying the **** out of when when i was **** that it wasnt coming off, not caring if i broke it all and even then it would come off. letting the parking brake loose did not help (unscrewed adjustment screw under console)
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so i'm prying **** off....i broke the spring retainer pins. i NOW can see the adjustment screw. but i can't get the drum off still. One shoes i barely got pushed in enuff so the drum slid around it , but the other side is keeping it all on. i'm pushing, prying, forcing , NOT CARING if i break ANYTHING...and the **** thing wont come off. who's brilliant idea was it to put the inspection hole no where near the screw???

i feel like taking to hyundai dealer and saying "FIX NOW FOR FREE" its your fault. but i already broke some things off and cant drive it.

hope u guys can shed alittle insight or something tonight ..so i can finish this
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i took wheel nut off...the hub slides back and forth freely...so the drum is NOT rusted to it...i can get the drum almost an inch away from backing plate, but whatever is at the bottom of the brake assembly is keeping it from coming away. this is SOOOOO pissing me off, its not even funny.
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FINALLY GOT IT OFF !!!

at the bottom of backing plate is a place where the shoes slide behind...holding them from moving in and out. no where on internet could i find a picture of this area, so i figure it out. Finally after using a 3ft crowbar ( wheel hub loose helped ) i was able to put enuff force on it to bend the tabs on the shoes past that metal peice on backing plate.

Once i got everything off i realized that the adjustment screw was super tight. before i got the drum off i finally had enuff room for pliers to try and screw it back, wouldnt turn. There was hardly any METAL , not brake material , on the front shoe. Needless to say i'm replacing the drums too lol.

Here is a pic of the peice holdingthe shoes..just in case someone else has same trouble.

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You need to put them tabs back !!! You not supposed to bend them.

All you had to do was put screwdriver through bore on drum to face of hub, moderate pressure outward, and tap drum square on outside (opposite of internal friction surface) and drum should have slowly come off with vibration.

BTW -- Hyundai does not sell hardware hit for drum...you gots to buy each piece individually... or hit auto part store for an aftermarket kit.

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[attachment=25128:2001_Ela..._Springs.jpg]everything is complete. finally.

Yes i knocked the tabs back. It WAS necessary to pry off the passenger side like i did. The shoes were SOO worn that there wasnt much METAL left on them..the brake material was gone. The driver side came off with 15mins of work...those shoes werent nearly worn like the passenger side , but it was still not easy as there was a NORMAL lip on inside of drum


By the way...kragen/o'reilly and autozone both carry drum hardware kits. $8.99 all the springs. unless your talking abour the adjustment screw and the small arm.

I'm posting this picture of all new parts on, because i did a search EVERYWHERE and could not find an actual pic of all the springs in place. All i found were simple manual diagrams that suck. even the haynes manual sucks. Many other forums and yahoo answer of people asking how to take them off, having same trouble i did, so i hope it helps someone someday.

i still say the entire design of this system on this car..is total BS. no access to adjustment screw what so ever...granted you should replace your shoes/drum on regular basis and not before your gridning metal...but sometimes u have no choice. i had no $ and no job.
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