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> Tucson Fuel Consumption Issues (diesel model only), DIESEL MODELS ONLY
ukjim
post Mar 20 2005, 07:09 PM
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Hi there Rich,

Welcome to the forum :)

Sorry this thread makes kinda bleak reading :mellow:
Its the last thing you want to hear when you've got a new motor!

I hope your longer journeys will make for better fuel consumption than some of us. Let us know how you get on when you start monitoring your fuel.

Above all enjoy your tuc-tuc. Despite the fuel issue, I am otherwise still very pleased with my choice of vehicle. I think its a great drive, smooth, nice handling, and nicely finished internally and looks great externally, and a pretty good sounding stereo (it gets lots of hammer from my CD's :D ).

At your earliest opportunity get it in some mud and try out that 4WD !! Hey it looks better dirty :wink2:

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Richwafta
post Mar 29 2005, 06:46 AM
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Hi All, Thought I would post an update. I have checked my FC after 6 trips to and from work + a bit of local driving. From a full tank, I did 340 miles (547 km). Refilling took 47 ltrs (10.34 imp gall) This calculates out at 32.9 MPG. or 8.6 l/100km. Most of my mileage is on motorway, with very few holdups, so I would expect to get good figures. I am still running in with 460 miles on the clock, so hoping for an improvement as she loosens up. Against some figures that have been posted, mine seem pretty good, but still short of the 39.7 official combined figure I am expecting to get. As an aside, my previous car was a Toyota Carina e 1800 petrol. The official figures for that was combined 40 MPG. I got between 39 and 41 MPG consistently, and from new, so I haven't got a lead foot :) . I've got to say, I love the Tuc. Good fun to drive and respect from other road users is nice. If the official figures had been low 30's combined, I probably would have gone for a Rav4 (and missed out on an excellent vehicle). So I am with the others on this forum that are feeling a bit miffed with actual FC against the promised figure.
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dmorgans
post Mar 29 2005, 01:40 PM
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Just purchased a Tuscon CRTD GSI. Filled up with fuel until pump cut-off. Due to concerns over mpg I decided that I wanted a rough guide to my own mpg, so after only 113 miles I filled up again to cut-off and I found I'd used 13.17 litres - giving me an mpg of 38.8. I know this was with gentle driving and a mixture of road conditions and cannot be totally relied upon as an acccurate estimate of mpg - but it is considerably better than many contributors to this forum. I only hope its not a fluke!!!

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Richwafta
post Mar 30 2005, 05:37 AM
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Hi dmorgans and welcome to the forum. It must be the Welsh air giving the good fuel figures :thumbsup: It was a bit worrying to start with, having payed for the Tuc and then finding this thread and the figures that some were quoting. My initial FC wasn't to bad and I am sure will improve as the engine loosens up. It sounds like you have the best figures to date. Let us know how you get on over the coming weeks.
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post Apr 2 2005, 02:30 AM
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I bought a crtd cdx in january and after 2500 miles am unable to get better than 30 mpg on a run and 25 running around town. One of the problems with FC must relate to the fact that the auto box will not and cannot be coaxed to shift into 4th gear under 38mph, the engine is therefore flogging along at 2000rpm at 30mph. NOT HAPPY
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post Apr 6 2005, 11:56 AM
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I've just 'topped up' again and while the mpg is better than many on the forum I am disappointed. First of all the figures:

170 miles at 21.45 litres.

This works out at 36mpg.

Again, becasue I've not done 1000miles yet I've driven fairly carefully. But since the majority (2/3's) of my mileage was done on dual carriages I would have expected considerably better - at least the 39.8 ('combined') quoted in the Hyundai literature.

At the moment I can't see how anyone will obtain the 48mpg figure for 'open raod' driving (must be all down hill).

Will the mpg improve with mileage - as the engine loosens up. Does anyone have experience of this happening?

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post Apr 7 2005, 04:11 AM
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I put my second full tank in yesterday. Total mileage is now 816 miles.
47.8 ltrs and 345 miles on the trip.
I calculate this to 32.8 mpg.
Most is motorway and keeping the speed to 65 - 70 mph. I can't think how I can drive more economically and surely this is "open road" driving?
Will a loose engine really make that much difference? I see you are driving an auto box Vansav8r. From what you are saying, it sounds like the box isn't set up right. Doesn't an auto box change up and down on oil pressure? I'm driving a manual and I guess dmorgans doing the same?
UKJim. Any feedback from Hyundai uk? your earlier post said they were going to reply early April.
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post Apr 7 2005, 08:35 AM
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Must be something about the Welsh air !

I've just done a round trip of about 300 miles in Wales and the motorway back to Brum at a steady 80 mph back on the motorway.

The trip computer says 31.6 so I'd guess this equates to 38mpg UK gals. Still far short of what I'd expect from the official figures but an improvement over recent fillups.

I've now done 4500 miles and things have improved with miles but I can't see them getting much better. I've been driving as carefully as I possibly can (very frustrating) and can't see how I could improve my driving style any more.

Lets see how the next few thousand miles work out. :57:
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post Apr 7 2005, 06:20 PM
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I must admit I'd be quite happy with 38mpg at 80mph ( from Weebrian). That would mean that at a steady 65mph it should be possible to get over the 'magic' 40mpg (which no one in this forum has managed I believe). I haven't quite reached 500 miles yet, so I AM hoping the engine will loosen up and mpg improve.

PS It is a manual gearbox I've got

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post Apr 8 2005, 03:18 AM
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Please note that only a small part of the journey, 15%, was at that speed. The rest was probably at an average of about 45mph.

I wouldn't get your hopes up yet !
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In that case - its not good - is it!!!!!


SCORPIO - any signs of that report on the endurance test for the Tucson?
Would like to see what its conclusions are with regard to fuel consumption!

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Regarding the auto box i agree the programming of the box seems way off. The box is fairly smooth until asked to do some work then it gets a bit flustered not knowing which gear to select, it is not unusual for the box to shift between 3rd & top 2 or 3 times in 10 seconds, wierd. My previous car was a Jeep Grand Cherokee 2.7 CRD, much heavier and 700cc bigger. i used to average 28mpg running around and 32 on a run.

I think the manual box will be more economical but on the demonstrator i drove it nearly had me spitting teeth, has to be the notchiest box i've driven for some time
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Being new to this forum it was interesting to read all the correspondance re the fuel comsumption. I have had my Tucson (2.0 CRTD Auto) for a month now and have covered 1100 miles. I have already complained to the dealer about the milage and conducted a test today. Drove for about 25 miles an the main A12 (dual carraige way) with cruise set at 65 mph. The tripometer told me I was only getting 23.5 mpg (US). I take this to be 30 mpg (Imperial).... nowhere near the 42 mpg in the brochure.

I bought the car based on the brochure and am greatly disappointed with the mpg. Does any member of this forum know where we stand legal since in my view the brochure is mis-selling the product

MTIA

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I couldn't agree more with you.

Like you I put great onus on the excellent mpg figures quoted before I bought my car but from day one have been very disappointed with what it has to offer in real conditions. I must admit that consumption has improved slightly in the last 500 miles or so. I've now done nearly 5000 miles but not enough to make me happy.

I have complained to my dealer who accepts there is a problem and also to customer services but keep getting brushed off with the excuse that it's all in the small print ! There is no way that anyone could be guided by the published figures, except in the wrong direction.

MELISA WARNER at customer services, Hyundai UK, has even stopped replying to my letters.

If you can come up with a legal angle on this, I will be in your debt forever. Well, maybe not forever !

Good hunting, Brian
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Has anyone thought about approaching BBC's Watchdog programme over this FC matter?
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Hi, Im have done 3000 miles and averaging 22mpg (UK gallon). On the open road best I have got is 27mpg - I am getting 220 (best so far) on a full tank. This is terrible, I sold my sante fe because of the cost of running it. At this rate, the sante fe (2.4) was more fuel efficient. It has been in the garage twice, and they cant find a problem. Hyundai say they havent come across it before, although they are aware of a problem with the diesals.
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Hi
I got a letter this morning from Bob Brampton at Hyundai UK saying that the parent company is aware of the problem and will be undertaking tests until mid June . They thanked me for my patience and promise to reply with their findings.
They have also advised Trading Standrds and the Society of Motor Manufacturers & Traders who are in agreement with their actions.
Lets see what happens.
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Yes...
I have E mailed Watchdog via their internet site.... no joy, and have spent money on a phone call... no joy.
I have also contacted trading standards and Motor Traders Association, it seems there is no single body interested in this problem. Hyundai have your money yet still insist in issuing a brochure which they must now know is not accurate
I am still awaiting a reply from Mr Walker who advised me they had sent engineers to Korea as they had a "few customer complaints" I too am giving him the benefit of the doubt.I have now covered over 6000 miles of mainly motor way driving and the best I have achieved is 31 MPG.
I am keeping a record of all fuel purchased from tank full to tank full so its 100% accurate, it is important to note that the tank will take nearly another 5 litres when it first trips the pump nozzle. I suspect this is why some of the forum members are showing figures well in excess of 30 MPG. As an ex car design engineer I cannot see how Hyundai can improve the consumption without new injectors and Fuel management system as the car actually runs perfectly as it is obviously designed too.Tinkering with the fuel system has enormous implecations on the government published figures and the total engine performance so I cannot see a solution being forth coming. With the £5 a gallon looming the "Chelsea Tractor" will not have much of a resale value if we all decide to ditch them in favour of a more economical car.

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Kia who are partly owned by Hyundai have recently launched their Tuscon equivalent vehicle the "Sportage" with similar engine specs. The fuel consumption figures they quote are essentially the same as the Tuscon, maybe they don't read this forum!!!!!
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Hello All,
My Tucson CRTD CDX auto has now done 1290 miles including a trip from London to Devon and back. The very best fuel consumption is 30 mpg - climate control off. Overall average so far 25mpg. Very poor! The auto gearbox also continually changes gears up and down going up hills.
I like the car overall but as others extremely disappointed with fuel consumption.
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