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> Tucson Fuel Consumption Issues (diesel model only), DIESEL MODELS ONLY
MrBlue
post Aug 2 2006, 03:21 AM
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Cheers Rich

Went to local dealer yesterday and asked them about problem and they were aware of it, they have said give it till 1000 miles and see if any change. They are going to check when the actual production date of my car was as it may of just fell the wrong side of the date and may well need the mods ...but they seemed very helpful and happy to help resolve it, if the FC doesnt improve...

Apart from that very happy with the car..well apart from rear shelf in boot but hey cant have everything..just dont like it..

Mr Blue



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post Aug 4 2006, 05:06 AM
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Mr Blue

What’s wrong with the parcel shelf, is it those awful silly lugs they have put on to hold it to the headrest, if so the new models now have hooks, so contact your local dealer and ask if they can order some for you. As for fuel consumption my colleague has a 55 plate produced in December05 and the fuel consumption is still poor, the car has been checked and the mods are all there but it hasn’t improved the mileage he only gets about 22 around town and 29 on a run and he has about 8000miles on the clock so the engine is well and truly bedded in. He does have an Automatic CRTD GSI so I believe this does lower the mileage slightly
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post Aug 7 2006, 02:52 PM
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The auto tranny is usless if you want good fule economy :banana: :beer: :57: :w00t:
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post Sep 2 2006, 03:51 AM
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From the lack of recent complaints from the UK I think the fuel complaint area is very quiet.

Is everyone Happy now since Hyundai found a result?

Itza
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post Sep 4 2006, 08:15 AM
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Hi All

I have been following this topic with interest and intended to get my one sorted as it was getting between 28-30MPB (2.0 CRTD CDX Manual). Was waiting for the 2yr/20K service to come round - which I had done last week.

They did the service and then checked it. Downloaded something from the ECU and then did the fill tank - drive +50miles refill tank test (they wanted to charge £25 for doing this but I said no way when paying £400 for service). They returned a result of over 36MPG. I did not believe them so tried it myself. I got over 40MPG on a test of 52 miles while driving very carefully. It has only been a few days but it seems that it has improved dramatically just through a good service. Another 60 miles mostly around town has returned 32MPG. So I think I am now getting the Holy figure of 36MPG avg. If it stays like that then I am happy.

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post Sep 6 2006, 02:16 PM
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Hi all,

New to this but just to keep this going a bit longer........... :banana:

I have a tuscon 2.0CDX and I have been having loads of problems with mine. It has been back to the dealer 5 times in the last month. On the last visit they changed the speedo as it had the wrong version (US). Since having this replaced I am still only getting 25-27 MPG.................

The only reason my local dealer changed the speedo in the first place was becuase I made a complaint to Hyundai UK, even though it took over 2 weeks for them to do anything about it. I am still not happy and have wrote to the local dealer telling them what I think of the tucson and their after service.

I have just finished a letter that I sent to Head Office yesterday telling them that I want something done about the fuel comsumption and told them that if the problem is not resolved I will be taking legal action against them.


After speaking to Comsumer Rights they tell me that Hyundai are in breath of contract and the problem needs to be resolved otherwise they are going to act on my behalf.

Other than the problem with the fuel the tucson is a really nice 4x4 but Hyundai need to realise that they can't qoute figures that are not true.

Neill.

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post Sep 6 2006, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(nicktick @ Sep 4 2006, 08:15 AM)
Hi All

I have been following this topic with interest and intended to get my one sorted as it was getting between 28-30MPB (2.0 CRTD CDX Manual).  Was waiting for the 2yr/20K service to come round - which I had done last week.

They did the service and then checked it.  Downloaded something from the ECU and then did the fill tank - drive +50miles refill tank test (they wanted to charge £25 for doing this but I said no way when paying £400 for service).  They returned a result of over 36MPG.  I did not believe them so tried it myself.  I got over 40MPG on a test of 52 miles while driving very carefully.  It has only been a few days but it seems that it has improved dramatically just through a good service.  Another 60 miles mostly around town has returned 32MPG.  So I think I am now getting the Holy figure of 36MPG avg.  If it stays like that then I am happy.

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£400 for a service...............

I told my local dealer that I would not have my service carried out by them. Under the EU rules as long as it is done by a reputable garage (and they are VAT reg'ed) then you can get it done anywhere and it will not invalidate your warrantly.............. they didn't like it but there was nothing they could do about it.

had my first 10,000 miles done last week and it cost £150.00,................ :banana:

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QUOTE(Itsatusconmatey @ Sep 2 2006, 03:51 AM)
From the lack of recent complaints from the UK I think the fuel complaint area is very quiet.

Is everyone Happy now since Hyundai found a result?

Itza
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Watch this space I am in the process of contacting Watchdog UK if I don't get a better resonse from Hyundai's head office.............

Anyone happy for me to pass on their details once they come back to me................??
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post Sep 6 2006, 02:46 PM
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OOps put my posts in wrong fuel comsumption area............ :P ....see I said I was new to this. Can anyone move it to the petrol post..............?
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post Sep 7 2006, 02:46 PM
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Hi and :00000732:
If you go back thru the threads you will see that all of us that had problems with our Tucsons got together and eventually Hyundai produced an ECM change to improve slightly on the mpg we were getting. They also provided a change of Speedo cluster for those of us who had US calibrated fuel consumption meter fitted to our vehicles.

The Tuc performs better once its run in properly (over 10000 miles in my case) and the diesel performance is around 33mpg overall the petrol units do perform to similar mpg's as I have been advised by other users although the auto units underperform.

You will find that taking the legal way is going to get you no-where some of the earlier tuc owners did do all the checking to see what could be done when we were being given the runaround by Hyundai (We were told that by a solicitor)

The MPG of the Tucson is only an approximate figure not a figure that is promised.It is a governmental figure not a Hyundai one, and it depends how you drive the vehicle ref the mpg returns drive lightfooted and get it into fifth asap and it will improve. Pushing the pedal to the metal sucks juice into the engine and the mpg is awful.

Follow the instructions below to actually do a proper check for yourself-the way that Hyundai do it leaves a possible point of error (they only fill to the first click at the pumps)
1. Go into the garage fill it up to the brim( that includes up the infil pipe so you can see it at the top)
2. Go out for a drive of say 50-100 miles using both motorway and ordinary roads.
3. Return to garage and refil using same pump then note your actual fuel used mileage covered and check using 4.54 litres/gallon. This will then give you a more accurate figure for consumption for that short type journey.
Now you have refuelled again drive until the warning light comes on that indicates reserve fuel only and refuel to brim again. and do the calculations.
Do not think the in car fuel calculator is 100% correct that is only a guide it can be out by 3-5 mpg.

Where in the UK r u?

The Tuc is a small SUV thats fun to drive enjoy it.
I have heard that The newer vvt engines are alot better and the gearbox is a 6 gear shift.

Actually here is as good as any the petrol section is used mainly by the USA owners with the 6 cylinder machines.

All the Best

Itza :460: :460: :460:

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post Sep 7 2006, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Itsatusconmatey @ Sep 7 2006, 07:46 PM)
neillp
Hi and  :00000732:
If you go back thru the threads you will see that all of us that had problems with our Tucsons got together and eventually Hyundai produced an ECM change to improve slightly on the mpg we were getting. They also provided a change of Speedo cluster for those of us who had US calibrated fuel consumption meter fitted to our vehicles.

The Tuc performs better once its run in properly (over 10000 miles in my case) and the diesel performance is around 33mpg overall the petrol units do perform to similar mpg's as I have been advised by other users although the auto units underperform.

You will find that taking the legal way is going to get you no-where some of the earlier tuc owners did do all the checking to see what could be done when we were being given the runaround by Hyundai (We were told that by a solicitor)

The MPG of the Tucson is only an approximate figure not a figure that is promised.It is a governmental figure not a Hyundai one, and it depends how you drive the vehicle ref the mpg returns drive lightfooted and get it into fifth asap and it will improve. Pushing the pedal to the metal sucks juice into the engine and the mpg is awful.

Follow the instructions below to actually do a proper check for yourself-the way that Hyundai do it  leaves a possible point of error (they only fill to the first click at the pumps)
1. Go into the garage fill it up to the brim( that includes up the infil pipe so you can see it at the top)
2. Go out for a drive of say 50-100 miles using both motorway and ordinary roads.
3. Return to garage and refil using same pump then note your actual fuel used mileage covered and check using 4.54 litres/gallon. This will then give you a more accurate figure for consumption for that short type journey.
Now you have refuelled again drive until the warning light comes on that indicates reserve fuel only and refuel to brim again. and do the calculations.
Do not think the in car fuel calculator is 100% correct that is only a guide it can be out by 3-5 mpg.

Where in the UK r u?

The Tuc is a small SUV thats fun to drive enjoy it.
I have heard that The newer vvt engines are alot better and the gearbox is a 6 gear shift.

Actually here is as good as any the petrol section is used mainly by the USA owners with the 6 cylinder machines.

All the Best

Itza :460:  :460:  :460:
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I have read the tread and found them to be very useful - thank you all for that. I have had my Tucson up-graded with the new speedo etc. but it is still the same as it was before.

I work for a Local Council and have discussed it with one of my Solicitor's and he told me the same as comsumer rights which was Hyundai are in breath of contact for selling something that does not conform to the information stated. He said that if you were only talking 5 miles or so then it would be difficuit to prove, but in my case I can only get a max of 27 to the gallon. Before I had the converstion I did do the petrol fills as you say but the outcome ws less than 20 MPG - since the up-grade it a max of 27 - not good.

I am in Portsmouth and the local dealer here needs to learn how to treat it customers - their after service is c**p.

Neill.

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post Sep 8 2006, 03:19 AM
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Got to say I wish you luck, on previous experience it got us all nowhere.
How many miles has your tucson completed?
Hyundai run in is quite high mileage before things even out, its not pre run in like a Honda.

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post Sep 9 2006, 08:58 AM
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Hi New to the site have recently changed from a coupe 2.0se petrol auto (1997) to a new 2.0l CRTD CDX diesel Manual.

Now not being too technical i work my milage out on a basis of how many miles per £10 of fuel on the coupe i was getting approx 65/£10 @94p/Litre and the tuscon seems to be giving 75/£10 @ 94p/litre.

After 500 miles the MPG indicator has gradually increased (urban) from 30mpg to 32.5

I understand that my engine is the new euro IV engine and was wondering if anyone can tell me whether the ECM and instrument cluster mod that people are getting as mentioned in this thread is already included in mine at manufacture or do i chase Hyundai UK or my dealer for this.

Many thanks :liebe011:
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post Sep 10 2006, 10:05 AM
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Hi wynnshep and :00000732:

Don't worry you have a 2006/07 Model which has the new engine and should later (when its run in give you about 35ish to the gallon)

You also have the new Speedo Cluster -This was an upgrade for 2004/2005 Models GTX and above Petrol and Diesel)

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Hello again,

finally I have the powerbox installed (sw upgrade was done already), so here are the results. She's automatic with ~22,000 km.

It's like she had a heart transplant, more power, more responsive, and better FC. No, not all three at the same time.

Note: MPG is imperial in this case, FC is what the comp. says (I'm too lazy).

FC: with careful driving I can get ~41 MPG on country roads, doing 80-100, avoiding heavy acceleration. In city it stays under 32 MPG, but it depends on how long you sit in the traffic.

Power: Highway 185 km/h, and yes, I know I'm a ****, but it was with a full size roofbox on top.

(IMG:http://www.thule.com/pabloimages/Original/02/24302.jpg)

FC with the box on top and doing 140-160 km/h on highway is around 33 MPG.

So the 235 Euro for the powerbox is definitely worth it. The only problem is I need to check the speedo all the time now....

Have you ever tried to reset to FC in a traffic jam? I can get 2.3 MPG that way. :57:
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[quote=neillp,Sep 7 2006, 09:04 PM]
I have read the tread and found them to be very useful - thank you all for that. I have had my Tucson up-graded with the new speedo etc. but it is still the same as it was before.

I work for a Local Council and have discussed it with one of my Solicitor's and he told me the same as comsumer rights which was Hyundai are in breath of contact for selling something that does not conform to the information stated. He said that if you were only talking 5 miles or so then it would be difficuit to prove, but in my case I can only get a max of 27 to the gallon. Before I had the converstion I did do the petrol fills as you say but the outcome ws less than 20 MPG - since the up-grade it a max of 27 - not good.

I am in Portsmouth and the local dealer here needs to learn how to treat it customers - their after service is c**p.

Neill.

I had the petrol tuc and was getting 22mpg on average, I gave up waiting and got a good deal on the Diesal, which was far better.
Last week I spoke to a driver of the 2.0 petrol, he was getting 22mpg (the same as myself), I spoke to him last week, after the mod, he is getting 33mpg, and 27mpg when he does stop start (he delivers parcels as a part time job). He has done 14k, and the MPG improved after about 10k.
My diesal improved after the mod, and got better after 11k, infact was getting 460miles to 60litres. I don’t know how many miles you have done, but the engine really needs to run in.

I’m afraid I took the same legal route as you did, and unfortunatly, to put it bluntly, you don’t stand a chance legaly.

All motor companies provide MPG by testing their cars electronically, and on calculation (rolling road). They test them by strict guidelines laid down by the EU, to which motor companies conform to. The results they claim will never be reachable on any car. Can I suggest you get the August Issue of Which Car?. They had an article about MPG claims from Motorcompanies and how much they differ. The Toyota prias was 15mpg under their claims, amongst other offenders are Ford, Audi. Hyundai weren’t mentioned.
There conclusion is not to take the combined MPG as to what the car really will do, not the extra urban.

In fairness to Hyundai, unlike other manufactures, they have gone out their way to improve the MPG.
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