Yeah, definitely.

Thanks, mamamia.

Maybe this qualifies (and it's even on topic)...

Hyundai Korea states the following gas mileage for the domestic Sonata line-up:

2.0 litre 4 cyl - 12.1 km/l (5-speed manual), 10.7 km/l (4-speed auto) 28.5/25 mpg

2.4 litre 4 cyl - 11.1 km/l (5-speed auto) 26 mpg

3.3 litre 6 cyl - 9.2 km/l (5-speed auto) 22 mpg

Wow! That's quite a difference from what the EPA certified for US 2006 Sonatas. The EPA test procedures will be changed this year, and the numbers are expected to drop. I wouldn't think they would drop that dramatically, though, so I wonder if Hyundai was assuming near-100% city driving for those mpg estimates.

:puzzled:

EPA certified combined mpg, according to Autoweek, is 22.2 mpg

Autoweek article

So that must be where they're getting that value (22 mpg). Hadn't seen the combined certification before, had always seen 20 city/30 hwy

I usually compare what the computer says for avg mileage with calculated mileage for each tank. Usually computer embellishes by at least 1 mpg over calculated values in my car. My v6 calculated value is between 21.5 and 22.9 mpg city driving. I have 7k miles on my car. Pure Highway driving gets me around 30. This is in New Mexico where there are a lot of hills and such.

That's not bad Chris, considering my 2001 Elantra is only getting around 17 mpg :(

In previous tests I've done using high-mileage tanks of gas (500+ miles) obtained through 2 round-trip commutes of 250 miles, I've shown the trip computer to be accurate within a tenth of a mile average. However, that was all in colder weather.

Yesterday, I went to fill up - averaged 31.3 mpg according to the trip, and had 501.5 miles traveled on the tank. The pump I normally use was out of service, so I went to a different one. Only took 15.28 gal to fill to first click (I NEVER top off!), which would compute to 32.8 mpg.

I don't know if the trip computer is off now because the weather warmed up, but I would imagine the pump I used yesterday probably fills the tank a little less full than the one I normally use. Either way, the trip computer certainly didn't overestimate the mileage in my case, considering it was 1.5 mpg under what you would get just dividing the miles traveled by gallons pumped.

This is in my V6, driving over hilly terrain, 70% highway and 30% city.

mc229:
I finally figured out what you avatar represents. The dear lady doing the hoofing is "GAS COMPANY," while the poor guy with mushed nards is "CONSUMER."

This post has been edited by motd: Apr 13 2006, 10:42 AM

I travel approx 160 highway miles per day and maybe 3 city miles per day. With the A/C off and windows closed (I can do this because of the time I leave in the day) I get an avg of 27.5 mpg. I may be getting a bit more...a bit less, only because there is no real way of know exactly how full you fill your tank up every single time.

I just refilled mine up yesterday. I'm at 1k now on my Sonata. Trip computer says i'm at 25.5 MPGs, my calculations got me at 25 MPGs.....so it has gone up since my last fill up. I drive about 50mi per day and about a 60/40 mix of highway and city...with AC on! Whoohooo!! :)

But then again...not like it made a big difference in gas payment...since gas apparently went up about 10cents since last time i paid.... :(

So, I posted my first tank of gas earlier, but here is the results so far. I put 120 of almost pure highway miles per day on, and I have just crossed 2k miles today. I did the math vs the computer on 5 tanks of gas, and they were within .3 MPG, so I am going to trust the computer. I'll redo it once it gets warmer to see if there is a difference.

So far the lowest reading I've gotten at the 'end' of a tank is 25.3, and that was because I had mixed in some city driving. Otherwise I've been seeing 26.1-26.9. On my current tank it looks like I might break 27. I am seeing it climbing slightly. :clap:

Here's one thing I've been doing, and I'm sure someone will have a problem with it and tell me I'm going to destroy the car. Once I get up to cruising speed, I push my gear shifter into 'manual' mode. What I've found is now the car seems a little less aggressive when climbing hills, and when I need to 'pause' the cruise for slower traffic, the resume doesn't just take off, but more gently accellerates. I think that is helping with the milage a little.

Also, I've tried running with ESC off and on, and I do see a slight difference off, but the overall change is only .2-.3, which is in the margin of just slightly shifting driving conditions. I do feel there is less of a hesitation when I hit the gas with ESC off.

No, because if that woman were the gas company, she'd have also stolen your car, burned down your house, and also forcibly @#$@ed you in the @@#.



Actually, there is a way. Fill up at the same gas station, at the same pump, and don't top off. Then you have exactly the same level of fuel fill as you did before.



Why not just use Shiftronic the whole time? It lets you regulate when you change gears during acceleration, which can help you shift at ideal points for mileage, and then you can also hold higher gears while coasting up to a light - if the light changes, you won't have to spool up through as many gears and rev the engine as much, saving you more gas and $. I use Shiftronic all the time, with ESC off (weather permitting). Mileage has been great (30+). :grin:

Ok, how about, its "Katie Holmes kicking Tom Cruise in the wah-hoo," after Tom being such a retard all of the time???? :grin:

BTW: what does this mean???

@#$@ed you in the @@#

We don't do what I think it means, up here in Canada... (That's what beavers are for...) :gitara:

This post has been edited by motd: Apr 14 2006, 12:44 AM

I thought Canadians would "rochambeau" to settle arguments.

Not to be nerdy but even that will not give you exactly the same amount everytime. That'll be the closest, but not exact. Remember, the fuel's molecules shrink when it gets colder, so 1 gallon of fuel in the cold contains more liquid than 1 gallon of fuel in the heat.

Very good point, but in my case it's mainly void since I fill up at the exact same gas station and pump, every other day, at the exact same time of day. Assuming a huge front doesn't move through between tanks and really screw with the temperature, I've pretty much got it pinned on the same amount of fill-up each time.