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> Engine Damper Install + Front Strut Bar, Meant to do this a long time ago since I promised to.
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post Sep 25 2009, 06:18 PM
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Finally got my front strut bar from Ultra Racing Canada and decided when I got it that the stark white color it comes in was a '**** naw' and quickly painted it to the same color as the rest of the car. While I was doing that, I figured I'd paint the engine cover since it was a boring all black instead of the nice two-tone previous model years get and the engine damper itself. I guess it makes it pretty easy to see which parts are new in my engine bay if I keep this theme up.

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Okay, let's get this show started. First off, there are NO problems using the Ultra Racing front strut bar and the engine damper together on the same bolt. I know people with the DC Sports (official Hyundai part) strut bar had to slot their bars to make room, but you can put the bracket for the damper under the strut bar and still have enough of the bolt to screw the nut down on nice and tight without running out of thread on the bolt. I'm also fairly positive you can make it sit on top of the strut bar too, I just haven't bothered trying it yet. I may fiddle with it later though for kicks.

However, you WILL NEED TO GET LONGER BOLTS FOR THE DAMPER to make it fit. I repeat, you WILL NEED TO GET LONGER BOLTS FOR THE DAMPER to make it fit! So before you get started, take one of those two bolts you get from the NRG damper kit down to your local automotive supply shop (Canadian Tire, NAPA, whatever) and talk to whoever you have to talk to to get the same size and grade bolt (8.8), just half an inch to an inch longer.

Note: the longer bolts that you need to buy only applies to those of you who plan on getting the Ultra Racing front strut bar. For those of you who don't have a strut bar or won't be getting one, the bolts that come with it will be just fine. And for those of you who have other brands of strut bars, I'm entirely not sure what you'll need. You're kind of on your own for that.

Also keep in mind that I did all this with an '09 Hyundai Accent Sport. Things may vary with older/newer/American/International Accents.

What you'll get with the NRG engine damper is a box with:

- the damper
- 4 black rubber pieces (you don't need these)
- 4 brackets; two long pieces, two short pieces. These are not extras, you may need to use two shorts to make it fit in your bay, or two longs, or a long and a short, etc
- 2 bolts (you'll be replacing these)
- 2 nuts
- 4 washers

The tools you'll need are:

- one 17mm wrench
- one 17mm socket + ratchet (1/4 or 3/8" up to you)
- one 12mm socket + extention bar for whatever size ratchet you use
- one 22mm wrench (it's not a perfect fit but it'll do the job)
- optional: one gearwrench 12mm (if you have one, you may want to use it, otherwise don't worry about it)

Now, you've popped your hood and you're staring your engine in the face, confused and possibly even a little scared. Or not. Anyway, you'll be looking for your engine mount in the left part of your engine bay. It's in this picture, it's the part that the bracket is bolted on to.

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Where the bracket is bolted on to, you may find a black cylindrical weight. Within it is a 12mm bolt, you'll want to use your extension bar here and unbolt it. Lay the weight away or do whatever you want to do with it. No longer needed. Now, within this area, look at the area between the mount and the closest bolt on the strut tower. (In my first picture, the strut towers are the towers that the strut bar is attached to). Look for anything that might get in the way of the damper. For me, the biggest problem was one of the metal lines getting in the way.

So for you '09ers, I've saved you the fiddling time. Unscrew the nut for the strut bolt you'll be attaching the bracket to. Take the two small brackets and place one upwards and towards the back on the strut bolt, like how I have pictured here:

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And then place the second one upwards and to the left like I have pictured here:

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Screw the nut in place on the top bracket finger tight and then the bolt from the weight to keep the brackets more or less in place but not tightened. Put one washer on one of those longer bolts you bought - you DID buy those bolts right? - and thread it through the damper + bracket. Put another washer and then screw the nut in finger tight. Do the same for the top bracket.

Now, before you tighten everything really good, inspect the area around the damper. Make sure that it's not going to touch or interfere with any parts around it. You definitely do not want it rubbing up against anything it's not supposed to. If it doesn't, then keep playing with brackets and positioning until you make it work without hitting anything. Once you're good to go, tighten the two brackets in place with your 12mm. And then use your 17mm wrench to hold one nut on the damper in place while using the socket+ratchet to tighten the night. Tighten it tight. Do it for both. Wait! You're not done yet! Remember that 22mm wrench? Use it and the 17mm wrench and tighten the damper itself. I did not do this the first time I installed it and the damper literally vibrated itself to pieces. Very necessary that you do this!

Once you're done, it's done. If you want, keep the tools you used in your trunk just in case you need to tighten it (you'll know, believe me, you'll hear it) or if you want to take it off for whatever reason.

Speaking of trunks, look what I found in mine today after visiting the salvage yard...

(IMG:http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/804/p1000261i.jpg)

Looks like that taillight project I wanted to try is a go 200 bucks later. Picked up a free projector from an FX35 too. One more and the headlight retrofit is a go too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Sep 25 2009, 06:40 PM
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very nice my friend...very nice!!!
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post Sep 25 2009, 07:13 PM
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Hurray! A legit writeup for the damper!
Do you have a manual or an automatic?
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post Sep 25 2009, 07:23 PM
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also...honestly noticed any improvements with the damper?
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post Sep 25 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (bloodninja @ Sep 25 2009, 06:13 PM) *
Hurray! A legit writeup for the damper!
Do you have a manual or an automatic?


Manual, though in theory this should be no different for you automatic people. How useful it will be for you, I'm not sure.

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also...honestly noticed any improvements with the damper?


Yes, very noticeably. Far less torque lost between each shift and I noticeably accellerate faster. Also, the car rocks a lot less between each shift too. Of course, I drive pretty aggressively so keep that in mind too. Don't bother with this if you're the fuel economy first, light gas pedal kind of driver.

Note: the longer bolts I keep mentioning that you need to buy only applies to those of you who plan on getting the Ultra Racing front strut bar. For those of you who don't have a strut bar or won't be getting one, the bolts that come with it will be just fine. And for those of you who have other brands of strut bars, I'm entirely not sure what you'll need. You're kind of on your own for that.

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post Sep 25 2009, 08:07 PM
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it looks good and hopefully you bought another bolt for the eng mount, at least mine was too short. Also the damper should be more straight than that, have you try to move the damper on the right side of the bracket in the engine mount instead the left?
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That's as straight as it gets, at least in my '09. There's a metal pipe about half an inch away from it. I move it over any further and she rubs up against it. No good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Perhaps you guys with different model years will be luckier.

Also, I've had no problem with the bolt for the engine mount. More than enough length, been driving with it for a month with no loosening at all.

What I might do is have a talk with my shop mechanic and see if there's a way I can swap out that length of pipe for something that's less intrusive. Just have to be really careful doing something like that or I might throw a lot of crap out of whack.

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Notice any increase in steering response with the front strut bar?
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post Sep 26 2009, 03:13 AM
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i need a new set of tails =/ any 1 wants mine trade lol
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QUOTE (jetrinka @ Sep 25 2009, 10:30 PM) *
Notice any increase in steering response with the front strut bar?


Honestly? Not really, but I haven't really put it to the test yet and my daily commute are pretty straight roads. I'm going to the mountains next weekend so I'll have a better idea of how it handles then.
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post Sep 26 2009, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE (Naky @ Sep 26 2009, 08:05 AM) *
Honestly? Not really, but I haven't really put it to the test yet and my daily commute are pretty straight roads. I'm going to the mountains next weekend so I'll have a better idea of how it handles then.

I'm curious to know if there is a big difference.Mine seems to take corners like it's on rails now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grin.gif) Maybe because it's
only five months old and the suspension still stiff.
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QUOTE (ausom accent 9 @ Sep 26 2009, 09:28 AM) *
I'm curious to know if there is a big difference.Mine seems to take corners like it's on rails now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grin.gif) Maybe because it's
only five months old and the suspension still stiff.

One year after having driven the car really hard and even over cobblestone roads everyday for the last 4 months, the suspension is still stiff as heck. LOVE IT!
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post Oct 30 2009, 02:44 PM
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Mine.
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So weird how much more room you have between the coolant overflow and the metal piping. You can see in my pic how I have about zero wiggle room, but you've got a couple inches. Makes me curious to see what all's different in the placement of every thing. Not that it matters since it'll be coming off down the road anyway.
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mines put on way different then urs. my brackets are straight on. so is my damper.
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... the bracket placement makes no difference to what I'm talking about. Look at my second pic and see where the damper is in relation to the coolant overflow and the pipe, and then look at your picture. The space difference is quite noticeable and there is no way I can adjust the brackets to make it straighter without hitting one or the other. Second, mine isn't straight on because it can't be, due to the aforementioned lack of room. In any case, it doesn't matter because the mount group buy will reduce the need for it and it's coming off anyway. So hopefully you didn't just buy this thing and put it on, especially since I know you're signed up for it else it's like 90 bucks well wasted, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Another thing that's interesting to note is that my engine cover seems to be much larger than all of yours, so the damper probably wouldn't work for me at all unless I completely removed the cover, which I have no intention of doing.

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QUOTE (Naky @ Oct 31 2009, 11:06 AM) *
... the bracket placement makes no difference to what I'm talking about. Look at my second pic and see where the damper is in relation to the coolant overflow and the pipe, and then look at your picture. The space difference is quite noticeable and there is no way I can adjust the brackets to make it straighter without hitting one or the other. Second, mine isn't straight on because it can't be, due to the aforementioned lack of room. In any case, it doesn't matter because the mount group buy will reduce the need for it and it's coming off anyway. So hopefully you didn't just buy this thing and put it on, especially since I know you're signed up for it else it's like 90 bucks well wasted, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



i will do both. both will give beneficial effects. and u have an se or something?
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QUOTE (StevenWang @ Oct 31 2009, 10:58 AM) *
i will do both. both will give beneficial effects. and u have an se or something?

He has an 08 or something....different cover.
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hmmm
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