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post Nov 12 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (MajBach @ Nov 12 2009, 02:55 PM) *
I think the washer I speak of is in fact just to seal the beam in but I wasn't sure. because the light is so diffuse with the HIDs, I was wondering if the washer was a spacer of some sort.
I do not have a 'ring' but a circle of light and the bulb is sitting in the notch properly but no I am using the high beams so I dont think that is the projector lens you speak of.

Yes, I was surprised too to actually find another adjusting screw. Almost impossible to see it on drivers side but go to Px side, locate the low beam cap and about dead center go out to the side about 2 inches. A smaller version of the other adjusting screw.


Thanks MajBach.

I'll have a look for that screw on the weekend. I need to adjust my passenger side, as I feel that it's blended too much with the drivers side. Once I find it, I will move it further to the right. Fingers crossed!

Thanks.

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QUOTE (carver2011 @ Nov 12 2009, 04:09 AM) *
Thanks for the reply!! I found the source of the problem. I pressure washed the car the other day and somehow water got in the crease where the front fender meets the bumper (which is about where my ballast is mounted) and resulted in the ballast getting wet. Water was pouring out of the ballast when I pulled it out; I just unscrewed the top of the ballast and drained all the water and dried the inside of it...good as new.

*Note...be careful where you mount the ballast. I guess there is a reason cars that come from the factory with HID's have their igniters/ballasts inside their headlight housings.


Flickering is usually the sign of a problem with the ballast; change in the light color (purplish, blueish, violet, rose, pink) - the bulb. 'Usually' means that there are some cases when it is not true. To make sure, you can simply swap the bulbs.
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post Nov 12 2009, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (congo @ Nov 12 2009, 03:59 AM) *
So, where did you mount them? I think my ballasts are larger than what other people have and I can't find a good flat area to mount them given that I'm limited by the length of the wire harness. I've had to cable tie them to my AC line on one side and a heavy wire harness on the other. Not the most professional looking installation that I normally would like.

Pictures?

Congo

On the passenger side I mounted them on a flat spot right next to where the windshield fluid disappears into the frame. On the driver's side i stuck 'er right on the battery top. I used velcro on both. Sounds amateur but beats drilling. If the velcro doesn't hold ( I used a couple of zip ties to prevent the ballast from falling anywhere) I will use so marine grade adhesive called Silkofelx 291.
I have 55 watt ballasts so they are big and that is what necessitated looking for a flat spot.
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post Nov 13 2009, 12:38 AM
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Passenger side HID ballast location suggestion

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post Nov 13 2009, 01:49 AM
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Well, as I mentioned in a previous post, I finally got the HIDs in. At first I was disappointed on several levels - too blue, too long to warm up, wide light throw and lost my DRLs. You were right all along, Volfy, nothing replaces a good reflector. I am really surprised how my 10 year old Accord outshines even aftermarket upgrades on this Santa Fe.
Having said that, I will keep these HIDs as they are a marked improvement - I can and will be able to see far ahead into the night.
I have one significant problem though: they do not align with each other. I one side throws way lower than the other. I tried compensating un aligning the low beams so that the highs were lever but it is too noticeable. What could cause this. I double checked and rechecked the mounting and they bulbs a re sitting tight and flush.


one more quick question: Are the bulbs specific to the ballast? I have 55 watt ballast and like I said, the bulbs are too blue. thinking of dropping from 4300 to the next one down as the lows and the highs are obviously out of spectrum. So, I am hoping I can buy bulbs separately but do I need to specify 55w bulbs or will any do?

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post Nov 13 2009, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (MajBach @ Nov 13 2009, 08:49 AM) *
Well, as I mentioned in a previous post, I finally got the HIDs in. At first I was disappointed on several levels - too blue, too long to warm up, wide light throw and lost my DRLs. You were right all along, Volfy, nothing replaces a good reflector. I am really surprised how my 10 year old Accord outshines even aftermarket upgrades on this Santa Fe.


I am surprised to hear most of this. You have 55W (!) HIDs (!). You should have lights like a railroad locomotive! I have 35W HIDs for high beams, so I do not know why you are complaining about yours... unless there is a diference in the reflector on the European and Canadian models.

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one more quick question: Are the bulbs specific to the ballast? I have 55 watt ballast and like I said, the bulbs are too blue. thinking of dropping from 4300 to the next one down as the lows and the highs are obviously out of spectrum. So, I am hoping I can buy bulbs separately but do I need to specify 55w bulbs or will any do?


The bulbs are specific to the ballast. To be more specific, they are specific to the wattage and may be manufacturer specific (the wire connectors may differ). In the latter case, you will have to cut the connectors, etc. In any case, you need 55W replacement HID bulbs. As to the temperature, it may vary +/- 200K. The Chinese manufacturers are even worse in terms of reliable color temperature: +/- 500K or even +/- 1000K (so a 5000K bulb will actually produce 6000K).
You can try to find 4100K, 4000K or 3900K bulbs, but Asian manufacturers rarely make anything less 4300K, except 3000K - which is "melted gold".
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post Nov 13 2009, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (MajBach @ Nov 13 2009, 12:49 AM) *
Well, as I mentioned in a previous post, I finally got the HIDs in. At first I was disappointed on several levels - too blue, too long to warm up, wide light throw and lost my DRLs. You were right all along, Volfy, nothing replaces a good reflector. I am really surprised how my 10 year old Accord outshines even aftermarket upgrades on this Santa Fe.
Having said that, I will keep these HIDs as they are a marked improvement - I can and will be able to see far ahead into the night.
I have one significant problem though: they do not align with each other. I one side throws way lower than the other. I tried compensating un aligning the low beams so that the highs were lever but it is too noticeable. What could cause this. I double checked and rechecked the mounting and they bulbs a re sitting tight and flush.


one more quick question: Are the bulbs specific to the ballast? I have 55 watt ballast and like I said, the bulbs are too blue. thinking of dropping from 4300 to the next one down as the lows and the highs are obviously out of spectrum. So, I am hoping I can buy bulbs separately but do I need to specify 55w bulbs or will any do?

You can use any color temp bulbs with the ballast. I am surprised you think the 4300K are "too blue". They are certainly "whiter" than rconventional halogens, but I have driven up next to some factory HIDs (BMW, Lexus, etc.) and theirs are noticeably bluer than mine. Are you sure you got 4300K? I wouldn't go any lower than 4300k. As far as I know, the next step down would be ones that are flat out yellow - the same kind of yellow that you see on some old Mercedes and...(with my best Inspector Clouseau accent) French cars, but of course. Which is to say... yuck!

As far as you beam alignment problem, try swapping the bulbs left to right. These bulbs are made by remounting true HID stems on halogen bulb bases to make, say..., an H7 HID bulb. So there may be some slight dimensional variations. I take it you mounted these on the high beam, yes? These smallish conventional reflectors are more sensitive to the "point of origin" of the light source. More so than the projector types anyhow. Larger conventional reflectors are less sensitive.

Yes, size does matter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grin.gif) The humongous front headlights of my 1999 Sonata may look dorky by today's sleek "liquid metal" styling standards, but boy do they bounce some serious light forward. Even with lowly 55W halogen bulbs, they cast a broad beam pattern some newer cars can only dream of.

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I ziptied the passenger side ballast right to the filler neck of window washer fluid tank. Driver side, I tucked it behind the battery. I would be a bit leery putting any electronic device on top of the battery, for fear of what the battery fumes might do to it.
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QUOTE (Volfy @ Nov 13 2009, 04:04 PM) *
You can use any color temp bulbs with the ballast. I am surprised you think the 4300K are "too blue". They are certainly "whiter" than rconventional halogens, but I have driven up next to some factory HIDs (BMW, Lexus, etc.) and theirs are noticeably bluer than mine. Are you sure you got 4300K? I wouldn't go any lower than 4300k. As far as I know, the next step down would be ones that are flat out yellow - the same kind of yellow that you see on some old Mercedes and...(with my best Inspector Clouseau accent) French cars, but of course. Which is to say... yuck!

As far as you beam alignment problem, try swapping the bulbs left to right. These bulbs are made by remounting true HID stems on halogen bulb bases to make, say..., an H7 HID bulb. So there may be some slight dimensional variations. I take it you mounted these on the high beam, yes? These smallish conventional reflectors are more sensitive to the "point of origin" of the light source. More so than the projector types anyhow. Larger conventional reflectors are less sensitive.

Yes, size does matter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grin.gif) The humongous front headlights of my 1999 Sonata may look dorky by today's sleek "liquid metal" styling standards, but boy do they bounce some serious light forward. Even with lowly 55W halogen bulbs, they cast a broad beam pattern some newer cars can only dream of.



No, these are blue enough that I notice their colour while driving. They are very blue when you see them side by side to the factory low beams.

Great idea swapping the bulbs - I will try that. I HOPE this changes where they project otherwise the problem lies elsewhere.

Thanks for the great advice fellas.
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post Nov 13 2009, 10:16 PM
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Sounds like they might have sent you the wrong color temp then.

Mine has roughly the same color as what radar2000 posted on page 3 of this thread, including the yellow hues:

http://www.hyundai-forums.com/index.php?sh...35207&st=40

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QUOTE (Volfy @ Nov 13 2009, 08:16 PM) *
Sounds like they might have sent you the wrong color temp then.

Mine has roughly the same color as what radar2000 posted on page 3 of this thread, including the yellow hues:

http://www.hyundai-forums.com/index.php?sh...35207&st=40

Both bulbs were marked 4300k on the wires. who knows - came from China.
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Attention all members. Due to the clutter from all the HID-related threads I have merged all topics into one. Please refrain from starting new topics on HID lights. Thank you.
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QUOTE (carver2011 @ Apr 8 2009, 01:54 PM) *
joey trust me nothing is better than HID's. I went through a set of Silverstars and a set of X-Treme Power by Phillips. I saved up my money and eventually installed a 4300k kit in my Santa Fe and I will never go back to halogens. It was the best 300 dollars I ever spent.

I wanted a High Intensity Discharge kit which is a very cool light and better visibility especially during night driving. I opted to go with the single beam HID kit too and love it, they are cheaper on ebay but I wanted a warranty so I got it here Sealed Beam Headlight Kits , or you can try one of the vendors. Also some of the forum sponsors selling Headlight Kits usually have a sale going on. Either way its a great system, and very easy to install.
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QUOTE (crug75hid @ Nov 15 2009, 02:36 AM) *
I wanted a High Intensity Discharge kit which is a very cool light and better visibility especially during night driving. I opted to go with the single beam HID kit too and love it, they are cheaper on ebay but I wanted a warranty so I got it here Sealed Beam Headlight Kits , or you can try one of the vendors. Also some of the forum sponsors selling Headlight Kits usually have a sale going on. Either way its a great system, and very easy to install.


First link doesnt work for me.
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can you post a pic of how it projects onto the road? is there a cut off point for the light?
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I just finished installing a 55W H11 HID kit on my '07 Veracruz Limited. Most of the steps are identical to the install I did on my '07 Santa Fe limited a while back, so I figure some of you may be interested in seeing the install pics.
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Is there a site or a link that you guys would recommend for purchasing an HID kit for a 2007 Santa Fe SE?
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