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Poll: Sonata 3.3 On Nitrous, Expires 12.26.2008 @ 1800hrs |
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Dec 18 2008, 09:17 PM
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Performance enthusiasts honest answers please. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/liebe011.gif) This poll was put up at the request of v33 and will run for two weeks. Please vote and then reply with any "relevant" comments or information.
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Dec 19 2008, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (dogstar @ Dec 18 2008, 10:52 PM)  I'd say it'll handle 100, but for how long?? I don't think I would throw more than a 50 shot at my car unless it was under carefully controlled testing situation on a dyno. Voted 50. Nitrous express is saying 50 shot easy and with 91 fuel and a bottle of octane I should be able to archive 75 shot. There concern was me not being able to back of the timing. Just got off the phone with NX again and they are said will not be as hard on the car and doing a progressive 75 shot. Kinda a set up like this.... 1st gear 3000-5800rmps 25-35 shot 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th gear 3000 - 4500 rmps 50 shot 4500-5800 rpms 75 shot? This way the shots are not as violent to the car. Also might just do a 1st gear lock out. I am worried with how slooow the car shifts from 1st to 2nd gear. I still need to bring this up to NX during my next convo. another big thing that worries me is having an all aluminum motor. PS I am also in talks with someone for doing a turbo set up as well.
This post has been edited by v33sonata: Dec 19 2008, 11:21 AM
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Dec 19 2008, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (Valk @ Dec 19 2008, 10:31 AM)  ya go turbo. I always hated power adders that you run out of. cuz then the party is over. But I would say I wouldn't go over 50 on stock internals and programming. Enjoy and let us know what you run at the truck. But I am sure you will. QUOTE (v33sonata @ Dec 19 2008, 01:26 PM)  Not sure if a turbo is possible or even worth the money for the power gains. Seems to be looking at about 3k for the turbo and only getting about 4 psi of boost. that would most likely put me about the same range as nitrous but with double the cost. I looked at going turbo, and even if my fabricator wanted to do the whole job for free, I doubt it would be worth the cost in parts. Without adjustable engine management, IMO you are just asking for trouble turboing the sonata. It might survive, it might not but even if you managed to get decent amounts of boost, how the ECU will react is not known. It might jump right into limp home and negate any gains. But then again it IS OBD2 and it might adjust for the extra air and provide massive gains. Until someone does it, we aren't going to know and IMO not many people are going to spend $3,000ish just to find out. Nitrous is a great power adder, especially for a daily driver... if set up correctly, it's there when you jump on the loud pedal and it's gone when you lend the car to your gf for a quick run to the store. No lag, low cost and when tuned properly it's surprisingly safe. Sure, if I was building a mustang or corvette I'd go supercharger or twin turbo, but those are different types of cars, built for different purposes. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 19 2008, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (dogstar @ Dec 19 2008, 04:30 PM)  I looked at going turbo, and even if my fabricator wanted to do the whole job for free, I doubt it would be worth the cost in parts. Without adjustable engine management, IMO you are just asking for trouble turboing the sonata. It might survive, it might not but even if you managed to get decent amounts of boost, how the ECU will react is not known. It might jump right into limp home and negate any gains. But then again it IS OBD2 and it might adjust for the extra air and provide massive gains. Until someone does it, we aren't going to know and IMO not many people are going to spend $3,000ish just to find out. Nitrous is a great power adder, especially for a daily driver... if set up correctly, it's there when you jump on the loud pedal and it's gone when you lend the car to your gf for a quick run to the store. No lag, low cost and when tuned properly it's surprisingly safe. Sure, if I was building a mustang or corvette I'd go supercharger or twin turbo, but those are different types of cars, built for different purposes. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I am pretty sure i agree with the turbo not being worth it. I will still meet up with this guys who has a 12 second tibby here in AZ who wants to take a better look at my car. But I think for the money the nitrous would be a better bet. If I can hit high 13's I'll be a happy camper and will have one fast **** Sonata!!!! ya if it were a Vette or T/A it would be a whole different world. Even if someone made a S/C for the Sonata it would be a different story. LOL. Hey Dog, you do the 3.8L swap and then turbo it and let us know how it works. LOL I'll keep the 3.3L for now and do the nitrous and let u guys know how it works. I think if u can get the 3.8L azera motor to work I might try the 3.8L Genesis motor towards the end of the year. Man well have some fast arss sonata's!! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/banana.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/banana.gif)
This post has been edited by v33sonata: Dec 19 2008, 07:26 PM
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Dec 20 2008, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (v33sonata @ Dec 20 2008, 12:50 AM)  Ya htats what I was t hinking. But there is no room for a super charger. hood clearance and belts wont line up with out cutting into the wheel well. The tubby supercharger bolts right up tho. Might also run into variable intake problems as well. Just an FYI. I looked into this route as well. I think a smallish Eaton, maybe M62 could be made to work. I'd have to mount it up high, between the valve cover and cyinder head, but we shall see. QUOTE (il06gt @ Dec 20 2008, 09:21 AM)  Are there tuners for the Sonata yet? If so, you can run a safe 75 shot.
If not...dont even think about it. When tuning with nitrous you shouldn't be relying on the computer to compensate unless you are running a big dry shot, which is hazardous. Running a small wet shot like a 75, you should be jetting your fuel up enough so that you don't blow anything up, which is the entire point of running a wet shot. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif)
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Dec 20 2008, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (dogstar @ Dec 20 2008, 02:41 PM)  I think a smallish Eaton, maybe M62 could be made to work. I'd have to mount it up high, between the valve cover and cyinder head, but we shall see. When tuning with nitrous you shouldn't be relying on the computer to compensate unless you are running a big dry shot, which is hazardous. Running a small wet shot like a 75, you should be jetting your fuel up enough so that you don't blow anything up, which is the entire point of running a wet shot. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif) That should be intresting! and Thank youjust my point!
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Dec 21 2008, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (il06gt @ Dec 20 2008, 09:21 AM)  Are there tuners for the Sonata yet? If so, you can run a safe 75 shot.
If not...dont even think about it. OH NOESSSS, if no one makes tuner for you, then is not possible!! there are other ways than just buying a tuner, if a tuner was available then that would just make it cheaper and easier, but if not then its not the end of the tuning world.
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Dec 21 2008, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (v33sonata @ Dec 21 2008, 09:18 AM)  Appearently it depends on who u ask. LOL.
Anyways so what did you vote? me, i didn't bother voting. didn't specify wet shot or dry shot. which IMO is a huge differance on how it will handle it.
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