There are things about the Genesis that I love, and things I don't love.

No matter how balanced one is in presenting pros and cons about the Genesis (or any other car) on Edmunds (Inside Line forums), if you make negative remarks, the mods over there will remove your posts, and if you are persistent, they'll actually delete your account.

And no, I'm not talking about behavior that is trollish or baseless bashing...I'm speaking of very balanced and objective (and polite) opinions being censored completely over there.

I am growing to believe that Edmunds Inside Line is truly run by the dealers and automakers, and they won't tolerate negative comments whether fair or not, or true or not, because it's a lion's den run and monitored by sales managers and manufacturer's representatives.


Anyone agree or disagree?

The mods are rather rigid. I do agree that there might be a tie in with dealers. That being said they have a section which allows you to rate your dealer and there is some pretty intense dealer bashing being posted. I do believe that in order for these Internet sites to be valid, all segments of opinions should be "heard". For better or worse we should be able to express our opinions. As long as it doesn't get personal. :thumbsup:
Don

Yeah.....I don't wanna live in China.

While in no way is this a general census of this forum, but in my personal opinion Edmunds sucks. Maybe a communist organization ! :w00t:

Again, to all the "Edmunds forum scrapers" this is my Personal opinion.

Have you posted the same criticisms anywhere else, such as here? I'd like to see the actual content they felt the need to censor.

I have a pros/cons and comparison review area of my own site. I state that I'll censor profanity (haven't had to yet), but others have argued that I shouldn't even go this far.

well have you noticed all the Genesis web page ads on their site??? its overkill thats how Edmunds gets paid. By the Car companies. So hence if they want to keep their customers happy they will censor posts.

I do know that if you are critical of Hyundai Azera or Genesis, you really get beat up on and these posts never get censored. Go Figure.

Ummmmm just curious did you use the name Lemon law on Edmunds? It could possibly give people the idea that you are out to gut any car company like a fish.
Just a thought................

Guys, I didn't use this screen name on Edmunds.

I actually like Hyundai, believing that they've dramatically improved their quality and technology the most among any automaker in the last 5 years.

I drove the Genesis (V6) a few times to get initial impressions of it, and then posted my comments on Edmunds.

I noted the positive and negative, with the positive outweighing the negative.

Here's a rough approximation of what I posted:

I thought the interior was excellent in fit and finish (excellent), but somewhat bland in design. I felt the seats were extremely comfortable, and the leather chosen was of excellent quality.

I loved the gauges, I loved the features (even the base model is loaded), and the price and warranty are excellent.

I felt that the motor was also excellent, with very quiet and powerful acceleration, and overall excellent throttle response.

I even like the exterior styling a lot, contrary to what a lot of people say about it being generic.

The things I didn't like were the suspension and the steering, primarily. I feel that the suspension did not blend the firmness and suppleness of some of the German rivals or Cadillac CTS nearly as well, and did not offer the ride comfort of a lesser handling but more cushy Lexus LS460 or Acura RL, for example. The suspension also has a harshness to it at lower speeds on rough pavement, while undulating on uneven highway or roads at higher speed.

I felt the steering was too light, offered too little feedback, and was too numb on center, to be judged as good as the benchmark cars that Hyundai has openly offered up as competitors to judge the Genesis by.

And that's it.

My post was deleted, and when I questioned the mods over there by posting an even more soft version of the above (even though the original was very polite), poof - they deleted my account.

Are there any negative posts they haven't deleted?

Yours does seem quite tame.

Today I drove a Genesis V6 w/tech pkg, it was a brief ride not a very exhaustive one and here is my take:
Ride...........much better than the Azera
Steering..............better tha the Azera (could it be the RWD)
Seats................. much better than the Azera
Cabin.................better than the Azera in materials and ergonomics
Engine................peppier tha the Azera
Tranny................Lag on kickdown (could be new tranny not yet adapted)
I-Drive............... The Bane of all drivers, hated it!
A nice package squandered by the advert dept.

There are a few things that the Azera has that may come its way in the future and I hope they do like folding mirrors & defrosting windshield.

I cannot see why anyone would want to have a V8 the 6 was plenty enough.
The salesman said that the volume seller will be the middle model, the tech pkg has too long a learning curve, so he said.

This post has been edited by Pelikan: Oct 15 2008, 04:37 PM

Sorry, but the ride quality on the Genesis is poor, and especially poor given the competition Hyundai benchmarked.

On my test drive, I actually got out of the car and checked the tire pressure in all 4 tires, because I could have sworn that maybe Hyundai over inflated the tires, contributing to the ride harshness.

The psi was within recommended specs.

The ride quality on the Genesis is the biggest deficit, IMO, and it's a critical lapse on the part of Hyundai.

Weird. The one I drove was smooth as glass. Granted, the streets where I tested it were pretty good, as well as the highway being recently repaved.

Maybe that is subjective, I didn'y find it objectionable, but then again, the roads were smooth.

This post has been edited by Pelikan: Oct 17 2008, 07:41 AM

Read the reviews in the October issues of Car and Driver and Automobile Magazine regarding the suspension. I was not impressed with the rides I took in three different ones. The Lincoln MKS I tested and my Azera rode better over a strech of rough road, but the Genesis did not wallow as my Azera does.

My Azera doesn't wallow, but I liked the genesis ride better, maybe it's me :innocent:

Road quality and reference points will differ...